Riga FC v Celtic - Europa League, Thursday 24 Sept - all comments here (kick-off 6pm Celtic Park Time)

Winter said:
The goal , watching it back Docco definitely was class , good distribution first from Barkas to Christie played a lovely pass up the right touchline and frimpongs crossed under pressure to Elyounnoussi hits it first time brilliant fast counter goal. Love that to be the start of a return to our last minute specials ala 'Larsson time ' though hopefully we wont need too many of those but good to see it happening when we needed it and like someone else said, could be doing with a fit up to speed Rogic who also has a knack for the last gasp winner. I think lenny saying we were excellent in the manner of how we controlled the game never under pressure in a foreign country etc and in that respect aye but this wasnt a case of take a result back home , extra time couldve put us in soapy bubble come Sunday and it might have gone to pens had we not the quality of our bench and that quality in depth is what's going to win it for us ultimately. We wont be facing a parked bus sunday and that should be good for us though jack ross will be aware of that too so be interesting to see how he sets hibs up against us he's got to know that we wont be bullied like the sevco
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Sorry winter but it's like you are defending another dreadful display, eg the best thing Christie done last night was that brilliant interception in our own 6 yard box to prevent a tap in. Now that raises the question what role is he playing as I don't ever see a 10 roll doing that.
Maybe he has something up his sleeve for the HUN match but as of now there are cracks there in the team and preformances only been masked over with poor displays and grinding out results, will we be saying it is OK if we were to drop points, get knocked out of Europe again.
Good preformances build confidence all around, which isn't happening, so a matter of concern at present
 
Winter said:
Hibs always give us a game , if they were more consistent they'd replace Aberdeen as the 3rd side. Ross has them well organised but weve seen them under lenny , Stubbs even mowbray they lift their game against us I'm looking forward to it I think (I hope) that it's one of the few chances we'll be able to play the way we should and can . Ross had them go all out against sevco but will he do that against us? I'm not convinced of that for as talented and well as they're going hes got to have in mind ross county having a go , and they had limited joy pressing our back line especially v Ajer and Duffy but we were ruthless in return I fancy us to hit them for three at least , different style of game should suit us if hibs approach us like that and tbf dont think they have the personnel to do anything other than go for it 3-1 the hoops HH ☘
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Hope you're right!

HH 🇳🇬🍀🇳🇬
 
John nó said:
Sorry winter but it's like you are defending another dreadful display, eg the best thing Christie done last night was that brilliant interception in our own 6 yard box to prevent a tap in. Now that raises the question what role is he playing as I don't ever see a 10 roll doing that.
Maybe he has something up his sleeve for the HUN match but as of now there are cracks there in the team and preformances only been masked over with poor displays and grinding out results, will we be saying it is OK if we were to drop points, get knocked out of Europe again.
Good preformances build confidence all around, which isn't happening, so a matter of concern at present
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No john no I've not defended the performance in any post I've made so I'm not quite sure how youve reached that conclusion, the post you're replying to I stand by 100% from keeper to back of the net in about 60 seconds, you cant see the quality and speed of that goal? Watch it again for it's the only piece of quality football we displayed. And it was Christie who sent frimpong on the way regardless of what his supposed role is in that formation. The quality of the goal stands alone from the lacklustre performance but there is no question of the goals quality in my eyes
 
Fisiani said:
Obviously you do not understand what the word TRY means. I enclose a portion of a textbook that I have written on the way to cure anxiety.



You may have spent a very long time in the past trying to slow your breathing; trying to be positive; trying to calm down and trying to relax.



You will always fail to relax if you have such thoughts. The reason for this common failure is a simple language linguistic trap. Essentially the word TRY does not mean what you have always thought it means even throughout all your life you have probably tried your best.



What exactly does the word TRY mean?



TRY is a very common word in the English language. You may have always thought of TRY as a very positive word. All your life you have been told to try. You have been told to try hard, to keep trying – to try and try again until you succeed.



All though our early years I feel sure that you were told to TRY your best. TRY to do well and TRY to get good results. TRY to get a good job. TRY to find a partner. TRY to have a family. TRY to have a happy life. You may have been told that if you do not TRY then you will not and cannot possibly succeed. That if you do not TRY then you will fail.



It will probably come as a surprise to learn that the subconscious mind always recognises the word TRY as being a negative word. To the subconscious mind, ‘TRY’ means ‘fail’ or at least the possibility of failing.



I would go as far as to state that the three letter word TRY is the single greatest sabotaging word in the entire English language. Nor is it confined to the English language: ‘TRY’ has an equivalent word in every other language on the planet.



Well how and when did you subconsciously learn this? When you were just two years of age you were a bit like a language sponge. You were listening to the people speaking around you and you were learning approximately 10 new words each day. So in the space of just one calendar year you therefore learned more than 3500 new words.



This was a time of your life of very rapid language acquisition. as long as you were regularly exposed to hearing language. Any parent of a three-year-old knows that that child can talk for several hours if given a chance. They already have an extensive vocabulary.

You can have a far better and longer conversation with a child of this age than you possibly can with a two-year-old.



Let us imagine for a moment that you are a two-year-old whose name is Mary. You are in the kitchen and your mummy drops a plate.



Mummy then exclaims,



‘Oh, Mary, I dropped the good plate and it smashed.”



The first thing that you hear is the word MARY. You know that this is your name. Everyone calls you Mary. No one else in your family is called Mary. Not your sisters and certainly not your brother. You are the only person called Mary who is in the room.



‘The good plate’ simply uses three very common and everyday words that you already know as a big girl of two, having heard these three common words hundreds of times before.



Next you notice she uses the word DROPPED, a completely new word for you. You might never have heard it before.



You have certainly heard your mother say the word FELL, and you can clearly see that DROPPED and FELL look to be exactly the same thing. The word DROPPED must therefore be just a fancy word for FELL. These words are synonyms – words that mean the same thing. You might even learn the word ‘synonym’ perhaps 10 or 15 years later.



From that moment on you can now choose to say that your doll fell or that your doll dropped. In your mind the two words become ‘the same as’ or interchangeable. You have now added a new word to your vocabulary.



The next words ‘and it’ are just two simple joining words. You already know these common words.



But the next word SMASHED is a brand new word for you. You have never heard it before. This is hardly surprising because we do not give two-year-olds smashable toys or smashable objects.



The word SMASHED is spectacular. It is associated with a loud noise and many shards of plate flying all across the floor. SMASHED also happens to be an onomatopoeic word: This means that it is one of those special words that sound like what they do. Young children really love the sound of many onomatopoeic words and will often seek to memorise the word by taking in a long in-drawing of breath then repeating the word …...five times. Like this.

(I then take a really deep and long breath in and then point at the ground and say in a childish voice “Smashed, smashed, look Mummy smashed, bad smashed, oh smashed.)



A week later your Mummy drops another plate. This time she says ‘Oh, Mary, I dropped the good plate. I tried to catch it but it smashed.’

Interestingly she says this new clause, 'I tried to catch it', in a slightly different tone of voice from the other words in the sentence. She says this clause with a slight rising inflection in her voice.



I then demonstrate the rising inflection. ‘Oh, Mary, I dropped the good plate, I TRIED TO CATCH IT, but it smashed.



The same rising lilt is in her voice occurs when she tells you about something good: I’ll take you to the circus; I’ll buy you an ice cream; let’s go for a picnic; you can have a lolly…..



We use a rising inflection for good things and a lowering inflection of voice for bad things quite automatically.



(I then say in a lowered inflection, you need to go to the dentist, ….....and get a little injection, ………and eat all your broccoli.)



Your mother by using a rising inflection is instinctively telling you that in her mind she did a good thing. She made a valiant effort to catch the plate. She did not simply just let it fall, but did her very best to catch it and to stop it smashing. She is implicitly explaining that she should therefore not be criticised. She is justifying the broken plate and appealing to your sense of fairness quite automatically so as not to be blamed for the broken plate.



Your ears and conscious mind instantly hears the rising inflection and thus ‘good’ sound of the words “I tried to catch it’. Apparently ‘tried’ is therefore another example of a good thing.



But your eyes instantly see the picture of the failure to catch and the resulting smashed plate. The picture you then subconsciously associated with hearing ‘tried’ is one of failure to catch, and thus a picture of a smashed plate with spectacular sounds and shards of china all over the floor. Tried become linked to the image of failure.



This is reinforced one week later when she drops yet another plate but this time she reaches out and catches it and it does not smash.



She then exclaims



“Oh, Mary, I dropped the good plate but I caught it.”



When we are successful we never say that we tried. We go straight to the verb and we say that we did.



We use the words TRY, TRYING or TRIED, depending on past, present or future tense, for times of failure or the possibility of failure.



Before you reach the age of five you will have heard your parents say TRY, TRYING or TRIED more than 1,000 times always meaning failure. When there was success you never heard them use these words.



By the time you leave primary school you will probably be exposed to the word TRY more than 10,000 times. TRY will always have the connotation of failure within your subconscious.



(I now involve the patient)



Tell me, what does this mean? “The woman went to the shop and tried to buy some bread.”



(They usually answer - She was unable to buy it or failed.)



And what does this mean? “The woman went to the shop and bought some bread.”



(They usually smile and say – She was successful!)



What does this mean?

“The player tried to score the goal.”



(He did not.)



“The player scored the goal.”



(He did.)



(This involvement of the patient lets them personally confirm how negative the word TRY is.)



I then point out that TRY also has a lot of linguistic cousins that essentially all mean the same thing.



Similar words are ATTEMPT, STRIVE, ENDEAVOUR, GIVE IT A GO, and DO YOUR BEST all essentially mean the same thing - fail.
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Just read this as I've nothing better to do at the moment...only thing I got from it is that someone really needs to help the wee maw carry the plates.
 
Rica set out to stop Celtic at all cost,thier history at home in Europe is excellent thier tactics we may not like them but you could see they new what they were doing stop Celtic,the players that were booked showed no concern if fact one just smiled,,job done,, if the goal had not gone in it would have been a penalty but would it been given?? The tackle on Broonie come on thier player knew exactly what he was doing and walked away without a care ,Celtic may have made hard work of it at times but even in the 90th minute they were still trying to score,we now have two maybe three Players injured for our next match the subs we have who came on and changed the game not a bad result for us a wints a win not great one but a win HH
 
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John nó said:
Sorry winter but it's like you are defending another dreadful display, eg the best thing Christie done last night was that brilliant interception in our own 6 yard box to prevent a tap in. Now that raises the question what role is he playing as I don't ever see a 10 roll doing that.
Maybe he has something up his sleeve for the HUN match but as of now there are cracks there in the team and preformances only been masked over with poor displays and grinding out results, will we be saying it is OK if we were to drop points, get knocked out of Europe again.
Good preformances build confidence all around, which isn't happening, so a matter of concern at present
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Everyone is disappointed with that performance john no , that said Christie's pass to frimpong was perfectly weighted and took at least 3 players out the game and as important his interception was in our box it's an instinctive clearance, the pass though was a defence splitter and Elyounnoussi's first time finish was brilliant and I'm saying this having watched it again a couple of times this doesnt defend the performance it simply acknowledges the goal , do you not think
 
The problem we have is that most supporters are disappointed with every performance so far this season. We have not played well. Other than one obvious position we have as strong a squad as we've had in years, especially middle to front, but the sum of the parts is less than the individual talent. That is down to attitude of players, what we're doing in training and off the pitch, team selection, formation and tactics. There's too much tinkering with the team, there's players being selected irrespective of form and suitability, and what many won't admit, there's players who want to leave. The fact we're now 10 days from the transfer window closing and we have not addressed these problems is a failure of management (football and executive). The fact we've needed a left back/wing back for 7 weeks since Boli went on holiday, and are not close to signing one, is a disgraceful dereliction of duty for those responsible in recruitment.
 
John nó said:
Sorry winter but it's like you are defending another dreadful display, eg the best thing Christie done last night was that brilliant interception in our own 6 yard box to prevent a tap in. Now that raises the question what role is he playing as I don't ever see a 10 roll doing that.
Maybe he has something up his sleeve for the HUN match but as of now there are cracks there in the team and preformances only been masked over with poor displays and grinding out results, will we be saying it is OK if we were to drop points, get knocked out of Europe again.
Good preformances build confidence all around, which isn't happening, so a matter of concern at present
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Im in total agreement with John on this..No one should be sugarcoating what was an awful display..The goal was taken well but the 89 mins before that was a disjointed performance..These poor displays will eventually catch up with us via results..We have to give a realistic summing up of games..Wearing the green tinted glasses is just papering over the cracks..We need to buy a left winger , brown to be rested, Rogic and Griff back in the team when fit ,Eddie asked "whats up?",pingpong to start ..Also Lenny needs to find a formation that suits our personnel and fast as hun game looming.............Hope all goes well today Lubo :)
 
Gary67 said:
The problem we have is that most supporters are disappointed with every performance so far this season. We have not played well. Other than one obvious position we have as strong a squad as we've had in years, especially middle to front, but the sum of the parts is less than the individual talent. That is down to attitude of players, what we're doing in training and off the pitch, team selection, formation and tactics. There's too much tinkering with the team, there's players being selected irrespective of form and suitability, and what many won't admit, there's players who want to leave. The fact we're now 10 days from the transfer window closing and we have not addressed these problems is a failure of management (football and executive). The fact we've needed a left back/wing back for 7 weeks since Boli went on holiday, and are not close to signing one, is a disgraceful dereliction of duty for those responsible in recruitment.
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The left back position still being up in the air is utterly disgraceful.

I love wee Taylor for his balls out approach to every game. He leaves absolutely everything on that pitch. If the rest of the squad gave the same kind of effort we'd have dropped zero points this season and we might still be in the Champions League.

Attitude is something that only the individual player can control. Far too many in the squad are simply not giving everything for cause in every game.

When you consider the pay these guys get, running yourself to a standstill during a match should be the very least we get to see happening.

Despite his limited abilities, Taylor is a shining light to the rest of the squad in regards to the attitude needed to be a Celtic player.
 
Gary67 said:
The problem we have is that most supporters are disappointed with every performance so far this season. We have not played well. Other than one obvious position we have as strong a squad as we've had in years, especially middle to front, but the sum of the parts is less than the individual talent. That is down to attitude of players, what we're doing in training and off the pitch, team selection, formation and tactics. There's too much tinkering with the team, there's players being selected irrespective of form and suitability, and what many won't admit, there's players who want to leave. The fact we're now 10 days from the transfer window closing and we have not addressed these problems is a failure of management (football and executive). The fact we've needed a left back/wing back for 7 weeks since Boli went on holiday, and are not close to signing one, is a disgraceful dereliction of duty for those responsible in recruitment.
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You hit the nail on the head there Gary. We have a brilliant squad but we are poorer than the sum of our parts. Yes, we are scraping narrow wins against teams that are much poorer than us so for those of us that lived through the 90s (and some "enjoyed" the late 50s/early 60s) it maybe seems a deluded sense of entitlement to moan about, but lets be honest - many of our recent performances have been grim and eye-bleedingly bad to watch.

Also, those saying that we can't win every match 5-0 with Eddy getting a hat-trick - everyone knows that and I've NEVER heard anyone say they expect that. There is actually a middle ground here. I only want the team, players and manager to try their best and I can't put my hand on my heart and say that I truly believe every player is giving their all at the moment. The really frustrating part is that we mostly already have the players available to us NOW to play a more entertaining style of football that shouldn't compromise our amazing level of success, but for whatever reason we refuse to try that and leave these very talented players on the bench or even in the stands at the expense of "favourites" who are repeatedly under-performing/struggling for form.

We don't always have to spend lots of money on transfers either to improve the first team squad. We have a huge amount of fantastic youngsters that are never given any chance either, and so will probably become disillusioned and bugger off to another club for a pittance (well their value is never going to increase if they are starved of much needed game time to improve).

I still believe that Lenny - and Broony - will lead us to glory this season, but he is making it harder on himself, and us, than it could be.
 
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