Aberdeen v Celtic - Match Thread

I'd have either at CB than Duffy. He was brought in as a no nonsense defender, something we were missing. 8 goals conceded in last 3 matches🤔. Please send him back to the mighty Brighton.
To think that Gary Breen was concerned that the standard of Scottish football might affect his game negatively.

Well it's certainly done that right enough, but not the way that Breen expected!

Think Shane must be playing with some of that special Derry semtex in his boots, because he's a feckin bombscare at the moment and he's dialling it in too very much in the traditions of the good old boys.
 
To think that Gary Breen was concerned that the standard of Scottish football might affect his game negatively.

Well it's certainly done that right enough, but not the way that Breen expected!

Think Shane must be playing with some of that special Derry semtex in his boots, because he's a feckin bombscare at the moment and he's dialling it in too very much in the traditions of the good old boys.
Gary who? Maybe he'd like to sign Duffy. Anything to get him the hell out of Celtic. He is not Celtic quality
 
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It's easy to get involved in scapegoating, I do it frequently in the aftermath of a disappointing performance, but the time has come for a rethink at the very least.

I appreciate that I keep banging this particular drum, but Lenny requires an assistant who will reign him in when his ego and stubbornness starts clouding his better judgement. Not necessarily someone to undermine his position, but definitely someone who can influence his decision making.

It also has to be said that the players themselves aren't covering themselves in glory during this wee period. All the coaching and encouragement in the world doesn't mean a thing if you don't do the basics properly and the fact of the matter is, is that the lads on the pitch are playing at about 60% of their potential. I think that the formations that Lenny seems to prefer allow a few boys to shirk their responsibilities and hide in games. There's no hiding in a 4-4-2. You have to show up, do your job, and be accountable.

The major difference between us and that mob at the moment is their willingness to move off the ball and make themselves available. They know their jobs and function accordingly. We have Ryan Christie as our main creative player, but he can't pick a pass. McGregor is our best passer by a country mile, but gets burdened with tracking back and his timing in the tackle is pretty poor. I'd tie a fucking rope between Shane Duffy and Kris Ajer so they play as a pair. I'd also tie a rope to Ntcham but knot the other end on the dressing room door so he can't get near the pitch. It's one thing to play someone through a poor patch to bolster their confidence, but that is entirely dependent on the form of the other lads around him and that form isn't currently good enough to carry passengers.

Celtic's best 45 minutes of the season came in the second half against Hibs. Turnbull came on and his engine allowed Broony to anchor himself while Turnbull effectively became his legs. It might have just been a one-off, but it's got to be worth a shot at least. Big Olly can be any player he wants to be - he has all the basic elements, but he doesn't have the heart and he looks like he'd rather be anywhere than Celtic as it stands. Lenny would be granting the boy a small mercy by taking him out of the firing line for a few weeks.
I think we have been banging this drum about the same points for a long long time. Ever since Lenny was parachuted into the caretaker job I have been saying he needs a trusted right hand man to share the pressure but to also step in and advise him when he is being belligerent or stubborn or just plain daft (such as to keep on playing the same underperforming "stars" while wasting exciting talent on the bench or in the stands).

Also, the lack of movement and desire is killing us. Pass and move, pass and move, etc. Our static players receive the ball and often have no-one available for a positive pass - how often do you see us have possession in the opponents half, only for it to get passed backwards and then have the goalie hoof up a 50/50 ball to the half way line?

I used to love Ntcham (in his early days my pal used to call him "your bhoy" whenever he referred to him as I thought he was a player), but he is clearly not interested in being here. Despite all his skill, his performances have been generally woeful (apart from Lazio), meanwhile we have Turnbull not getting a look-in. Turnbull has a great engine on him, is not afraid to get stuck in and is a goal threat too (as I touched on yesterday, we are missing the much maligned Forrest's goal scoring and assisting threat to get us out of trouble over the last few weeks).
 
Sorry m8 but you're being entirely unrealistic here.

How long should we wait?

There's a monster problem with the management at Celtic and it's been there ALL SEASON.

If we give Lennon a chance to turn it round we'll be watching the scum doing a lap of honour in front of their reprobate support in May.

Right now is the time to turn it round!

Anyone coming in now has two games to sort things out. Is 10 more important than a BF Cup semi? Absolutely.

Is it more important than a Europa League campaign? Abso-fucki -lutely!

Two games for the new guy to bed in and take stock for the push to 10.
Which part is unrealistic? I reckon that it's you who's being unrealistic "anyone coming in now has 2 games to sort it out" ? Well that's the most unrealistic statement I've heard for some time, 2 games wouldnt be enough for any manager to turn things around. And you're forgetting that we have a game in hand v st Mirren a game that I and pretty much everyone believes we will win . So that would put us 3pts behind in the race (which is only at the quarter way stage) and has a long long way to go. We are seeing signs of improvement , the sevco game was a one off in terms of performance and by that I mean I dont recall such a poor performance against a poor side . Milan we were chasing the point and it cost us. Aberdeen may well prove to be a decent point in the season given how early the season is. Bring in a new manager and give him 2days to turn things around? Another manager would need much more time than that to get to know the players, their abilities strengths and weaknesses and informational tactics. I dont think you know what you're actually advocating here and that is down to the fact weve had a bad run for a change and you like the rest of us are upset about that , that's the only thing u can agree with you on. If you think the board will sack Lennon fir being 6pts behind with a game in hand then you're dreaming an unrealistic dream
 
Ive realised that a manager change wont be made, so, hoping he increases the changes and sorts it. Fucking still raging though, but, need to look forward as it is not going to be a new manager. Not exactly bursting with confidence it will happen though.
I'm as raging as anyone about the Aberdeen result as we should've won it but lenny did bring the changes and it's not him I blame for the dropped pts its the players who believed at 75 minutes when we went in front that the game was won, aberdeen are playing decent right now and it may well be a decent point in the end , sevco will have their slump as well and we have the chance to put that pittodrie result right at hampden on the 1st , not going to be easy but were not far away from the first silverware of the season.
 
....3pts now.....whats happens when its gets bigger by the week....when is it too late......ten points, 12 points...........15 points behind..........I think its going the wrong way and has to be arrested now.........
Weve been much further behind before at this stage and still done the job. If anything is to be changed then it's that lenny needs a stronger no2 sacking lenny isnt the answer , sack a manager whis lost one domestic match? No chance it will never happen . What if , should've could've etc is negative speculation we get enough of that from SMSM. Lenny is the manager and will remain so regardless of how much we vent , unless he resigns the job is his I am confident he'll deliver the 4treble to start with that will be the catalyst for more imo
 
Which part is unrealistic? I reckon that it's you who's being unrealistic "anyone coming in now has 2 games to sort it out" ? Well that's the most unrealistic statement I've heard for some time, 2 games wouldnt be enough for any manager to turn things around. And you're forgetting that we have a game in hand v st Mirren a game that I and pretty much everyone believes we will win . So that would put us 3pts behind in the race (which is only at the quarter way stage) and has a long long way to go. We are seeing signs of improvement , the sevco game was a one off in terms of performance and by that I mean I dont recall such a poor performance against a poor side . Milan we were chasing the point and it cost us. Aberdeen may well prove to be a decent point in the season given how early the season is. Bring in a new manager and give him 2days to turn things around? Another manager would need much more time than that to get to know the players, their abilities strengths and weaknesses and informational tactics. I dont think you know what you're actually advocating here and that is down to the fact weve had a bad run for a change and you like the rest of us are upset about that , that's the only thing u can agree with you on. If you think the board will sack Lennon fir being 6pts behind with a game in hand then you're dreaming an unrealistic dream
Perhaps you misunderstood what I meant when I said 2 games to sort it out.

I meant the next two games (in my opinion) don't matter a toss in terms of importance to our season. They're two free passes for the new guy to assess what he's got. If he lost both then it wouldn't be any less than I expect NL's team to do now.

I'm a realist. I know there's a chance that a change of manager might not sort the issues. However, being a realist I think there's even less of a chance (going by what we've witnessed this season) that NL can pull us out of the kind of form we've showed since football started up again.

This isn't a little blip in an otherwise stellar start to the season.

We're rank rotten at the moment compared to how this squad should be performing.

When superior players are being rattled by inferior opposition then there's only one place the blame can possibly lie.

Managers door.
 
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Lennon done his job we were getting beat he changed it, we were winning and then a collection of individual errors, fucked it up you can do fuck all about that except take it on the chin and move on
You could be right. I posted that immediately after the match when the blood was boiling. But the fact remains the same. The players aren't doin it for whatever reason which has been thrashed out here many times with many differing opinions. Like I said before, I'm not that fond of Lennon as a manager, but neither do I want to see him sacked. I hope he can put his ego to the side and get on top of things. Hindsight is great when you settle down. The truth is, we all hear snippets of what's going on, but we can't be sure what's truth and what's bullshit. The thing is last year the Huns were flyin around this time of the season and then fell apart when it mattered. Whereas we got stronger after a shitty enough start. I think we're all on edge considering the season it is and hopefully we can turn it around. I know a lot of players are missin and I know that could be used as an excuse, but I know myself from coaching that when players are missing from training it can have a major negative impact on the team. If I was Lennon I would be aiming for Aberdeen next week and laying down a marker. Here's hoping!
 
Here's a thought troops. Why not keep the manager and players and sack the board? Maybe time fornew board fresh investment, ideas, people who will support the manager with cash and director of football over seeing things... Let Lenny continue in his role knowing that he has to be at training every day, and be answerable to dof. Stupid thought I know but what do you bhoys think. HH
 
I haven't had a read back on this thread since pre kickoff other than this page.

Gut wrenching score yesterday, lost late goals in both halfs, first pen I have my doubts about Ntcham naively puts his hands on Ferguson's back and he does what he has been told to do, go down and let the ref decided, mr incompetent duly obliged.

The mistake by Duffy for their second is obviously avoidable and hopefully one he never makes again in the hoops, up until then I thought he had been decent. A midfield and defensive coach should study the play that led to the second sheep pen 🙈,and point out all the mistakes made by a collection of hooped shirts. From Broonie giving a short pass to Calmac going in like a blind man it was a bloody disaster.

Ajeti is a penalty box player and not a lone striker imho, second half we had some good play, but I'm getting pished off with the team only performing for 30 mins out of 90, playing at half pace is okay when your 2 up not at the start of the game.

Imho arses need kicking and a wee lecture about what this season means to US fans, we cant get in to give our vocal support unfortunately, so we need them to perform at their peak for the whole game.

In NEIL we trust.
 
Here's a thought troops. Why not keep the manager and players and sack the board? Maybe time fornew board fresh investment, ideas, people who will support the manager with cash and director of football over seeing things... Let Lenny continue in his role knowing that he has to be at training every day, and be answerable to dof. Stupid thought I know but what do you bhoys think. HH
Cany blame the board this time as far as i can see theyve backed the manager
 
Celtic seem to have something about buying players then not playing them.
Also playing players who are not fit or are playing players that are rubbish every week before they play players that were playing every week before they came to us. Lennon says it’s not been a good week- it’s not been a good season. A season where everything should have been in place, BEFORE the Champions League qualifiers took place, and already for to make it 10IAR. The board and management have let the faithful fans down. AGAIN.
 
Which part is unrealistic? I reckon that it's you who's being unrealistic "anyone coming in now has 2 games to sort it out" ? Well that's the most unrealistic statement I've heard for some time, 2 games wouldnt be enough for any manager to turn things around. And you're forgetting that we have a game in hand v st Mirren a game that I and pretty much everyone believes we will win . So that would put us 3pts behind in the race (which is only at the quarter way stage) and has a long long way to go. We are seeing signs of improvement , the sevco game was a one off in terms of performance and by that I mean I dont recall such a poor performance against a poor side . Milan we were chasing the point and it cost us. Aberdeen may well prove to be a decent point in the season given how early the season is. Bring in a new manager and give him 2days to turn things around? Another manager would need much more time than that to get to know the players, their abilities strengths and weaknesses and informational tactics. I dont think you know what you're actually advocating here and that is down to the fact weve had a bad run for a change and you like the rest of us are upset about that , that's the only thing u can agree with you on. If you think the board will sack Lennon fir being 6pts behind with a game in hand then you're dreaming an unrealistic dream
Good points but Aberdeen are fucking shite Celtic played them off the park and got suckered two pens and a rebound, same as the hun game a shit header and a ping pong goal,
 
Celtic seem to have something about buying players then not playing them.
Also playing players who are not fit or are playing players that are rubbish every week before they play players that were playing every week before they came to us. Lennon says it’s not been a good week- it’s not been a good season. A season where everything should have been in place, BEFORE the Champions League qualifiers took place, and already for to make it 10IAR. The board and management have let the faithful fans down. AGAIN.
This is something that really annoys me. I understand that SOME players will benefit from a low key settling in period but how many of these foreign purchases are left kicking their heels in the stands for months on end and are then punted for a significant loss without ever getting a chance? These guys are professional footballers who live for playing the game - if you don't give them that to look forward to then how are they ever going to settle in? For example, Shved was apparently very shy and struggling to settle so rather than give an exciting talent and proven goalscorer some game time to help him feel wanted.
 
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