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too late...................
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too late...................
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......................Can only see but would point out he did next to nothing to enquire why we lost out on champions league revenue each year and why we were never ready , never had the signings needed not to mention the millions wasted on projects
Feel a more hands on day to day approach is what we need not a look after the horse is bolted , like everyone else we live in hope but Celtic have played this role many times before
Cheered me up that ........................
My take on what you’re saying is this.....DD gave Peter Lawwell pretty much a free reign to do things as long as certain financial objectives were met.....PL usually achieved these objectives even if it meant selling our prized assets to do so.....and we were also winning all before us domestically.....which generally kept the Support on side.....even though many of us were unhappy about how we fared in Europe.....fast forward to this season which most of us could see coming.....which has brought all that is wrong to a head.....that is why I believe the reports that stated that DD has commissioned an internal audit of our operations which was pretty grim reading I believe.....and that is also why I believe we will see positive changes being made in the coming weeks.....DD I believe will have to protect his investment in the Club.....and that investment will deteriorate dramatically imo if we don’t immediately rectify the archaic ways we are currently doing things on and off the park....I’m therefore of the view he has no choice other than to positively overhaul our operations.....I also think his son taking up a position on the Board is to keep a watchful eye on things.....a good thing I believe.....hopefully the likes of Bankier et al get moved on the very near future.....there’s lots more I could add here.....but hopefully you can see why I say the things I do.....the revolution is coming...
Naw ,,,,,your just no selling it to me ,,,,tell me more......................
My take on what you’re saying is this.....DD gave Peter Lawwell pretty much a free reign to do things as long as certain financial objectives were met.....PL usually achieved these objectives even if it meant selling our prized assets to do so.....and we were also winning all before us domestically.....which generally kept the Support on side.....even though many of us were unhappy about how we fared in Europe.....fast forward to this season which most of us could see coming.....which has brought all that is wrong to a head.....that is why I believe the reports that stated that DD has commissioned an internal audit of our operations which was pretty grim reading I believe.....and that is also why I believe we will see positive changes being made in the coming weeks.....DD I believe will have to protect his investment in the Club.....and that investment will deteriorate dramatically imo if we don’t immediately rectify the archaic ways we are currently doing things on and off the park....I’m therefore of the view he has no choice other than to positively overhaul our operations.....I also think his son taking up a position on the Board is to keep a watchful eye on things.....a good thing I believe.....hopefully the likes of Bankier et al get moved on the very near future.....there’s lots more I could add here.....but hopefully you can see why I say the things I do.....the revolution is coming...
Did he use beef or chicken paste oan thi Walloper...................
Naw!
Ffs spillchuckDid he use beef or chicken paste oan thi Walloper
HH
.................Did he use beef or chicken paste oan thi Walloper
HH
You say it BUTT.................
Let me tell you ma man, I have no intentions of ever going near his walloper..
You are not wrong - I do think though that our peoblems started with the goal keeper - the defence were crapping it because there was no superhero to bail them out and that fear I think spread and before we knew it we were points down with games to play. We were the best team in all but a couple of games we played in but lost stupoid goals against the run of play (keeper issues) and our strikers were affected by the pressure that that brought. The big difference between us and the new huns was an old hun keeper who saved them time and again. We were actually not that far away and if we had an FF who wanted to play things could have been much different....but yes mamoth rebuild required....could we start with a solid keeper?Apologies in advance if I go on a bit with this post folks, I'm trying to detach myself from the blinkered Celtic supporter that I can be at times. I'm trying to engage my head as opposed to my heart.
I've just been reading the thread started by JamesPearson8, The Aftermath and the Conclusion. It's probably a pretty accurate assessment of how most of us feel at the present time. Lubo Left peg also makes terrific points as well. So hat's off to both of you.
It's just that I'm trying to look forward; this season is gone. It can't be undone. I know we'll spend much of our time over the summer looking back and pointing fingers. Given the scope of our collapse it's natural and correct that we look for reasons. I do it myself. However, ( speaking only for myself here ) I'm also beginning to feel we can't dwell on it for too long. The job ahead must be addressed as quickly as possible.
Continued mediocrity will have consequences which could easily last for years. This will impact on many aspects of our club. Attracting players of the right calibre, or attracting sponsorship for instance. We as supporters don't really pay too much attention to such things, ( players apart of course ) but for a club that considers itself a global brand, it is a massive part of keeping up with the elite.
Can we turn it round quickly ? My heart says yes, but my head says no. If the next manager can achieve this, (whoever he is ), even over two seasons, it will be one of the most noteworthy achievements in our history. A bit over the top ? That's what I though too. Until I decided to be honest with myself.
One of the first things the club has to change, yes, even before the manager, the new CEO, a DoF etc, is their lack of connection with the supporters. As I said, we consider ourselves to be a huge club globally. There are literally millions of folk worldwide who have this club in their hearts. But if in the eyes of the powers that be, those folk are considered to be mere "customers", then we are on a downward spiral.
This may sound a bit OTT, but I believe we're at a crossroads. The road to further success simply can't be found without the supporters on board. I'll shut my gub now. HH.
I thought that PL was doing a good job but last few year he thought we cud romp league way average players and the way the money in the game went average players were goin for good money so he probs thought he cud still make money and win everything but he totally underestimated how much work the team needed last summer...I think winning last season masked alot and he fucked up he was playing footy manager but in real life others in the club were probably too weak to tell Lawwell we were on wrong road he had too much power imo and we are paying for it now hopefully the shake up at the club gets us on rite road again I canny see DD just letting us drift aimlessly hes got too much at stake......................
My take on what you’re saying is this.....DD gave Peter Lawwell pretty much a free reign to do things as long as certain financial objectives were met.....PL usually achieved these objectives even if it meant selling our prized assets to do so.....and we were also winning all before us domestically.....which generally kept the Support on side.....even though many of us were unhappy about how we fared in Europe.....fast forward to this season which most of us could see coming.....which has brought all that is wrong to a head.....that is why I believe the reports that stated that DD has commissioned an internal audit of our operations which was pretty grim reading I believe.....and that is also why I believe we will see positive changes being made in the coming weeks.....DD I believe will have to protect his investment in the Club.....and that investment will deteriorate dramatically imo if we don’t immediately rectify the archaic ways we are currently doing things on and off the park....I’m therefore of the view he has no choice other than to positively overhaul our operations.....I also think his son taking up a position on the Board is to keep a watchful eye on things.....a good thing I believe.....hopefully the likes of Bankier et al get moved on the very near future.....there’s lots more I could add here.....but hopefully you can see why I say the things I do.....the revolution is coming...
I’ve said this before I think the players at Celtic park aren’t that bad jusaye tell us more
I agree , they're not bad players just been mismanaged imo plus injuries to key players , firmly believe that Ronny Deila would win it back with a little decent backing, it was always going to end , spectacularly blew up in public wasnt what I expected but anh half decent manager will win it back I'm sure HHI’ve said this before I think the players at Celtic park aren’t that bad just Rudderless
No proper fitness/dietary regimen in place no game plan no proper Tactical awareness.
Poor management, Board fu o
Pretty much the same as the Snakes team that swept all before them.
Get in a proper modern Man Manager get them fit get them drilled till it hurts.
Add some (hardest to do ) Quality to the squad then get fucking into those Zombie non paying fuckwits and take back our Title.
Mon the Hoops
HH
If god spares me Frank I will hold you to your offer,as I said in my post Frank there is only one difference in all the Celtic sevco games and it was a massive difference called McGregor.Another terrific post GS, and like Imatim's post I love the positivity and optimism. I could've written it myself before I took my Celtic supporters hat off. But I would've been kidding myself. I would've been stating what I hoped would happen, rather than what I think will happen.
I understand the thinking behind the optimism; we really only have to be better than the team above us, and as you say, they're not world beaters. I mean no disrespect to the rest of the clubs in Scottish football, but the truth is, the game here is very poor.
Sad thing is though, we've regressed to the point where a number of our players simply aren't good enough to wear the jersey, and those who are decent, don't want to be here.. I know that probably sounds like something a cheesed-off supporter would say. But I actually believe it.
The number of new players needed to challenge shows the extraordinary extent of our collapse. I think we're both long enough in the tooth to accept the fact that some of those players will struggle with the weight of our famous jersey. They won't all hit the ground running.
I hope you are 100% correct in your assessment. I hope I have egg all over my face come the end of next season. Believe me, there's nothing I would like more. In fact, I'll meet you at the Walfrid statue before or after the game and I'll gladly shake your hand and buy you a pint.
As for Howe, you've perfectly summed up the wonderful opportunity he has to establish himself amongst the top managers. I'm just not convinced he has what is takes. That's not me having a go at the bloke. I really don't see enough in his time at smaller clubs to feel I can say he's the right man. I just don't know.
Still, I'm up for the journey. HH