Will Ireland become one united country in your lifetime?

Nothing is ever black and white. I remember spending hours discussing the political situation in Ireland with a Korean. After hours of doing my best to explain both sides of the argument, all be it from a nationalist angle. He sat quiet for a short period and turned to me and said "this is very simple to me, just tell them English bastards to fuck off home". To which I replied "we've been doing that for 800 years and they won't fuckin listen"!
Hahaha that is brilliant!

It's impossible to explain it to outsiders, it's the same in Scotland too.

It doesn't help that half-witted huns thought it was a loyalist question, instead of the opportunity to forge their own destiny!

Thanks for that, TD.......there's no experience like first-hand experience.
 
Living in the six counties, I can't see for the foreseeable future, a
Hahaha that is brilliant!

It's impossible to explain it to outsiders, it's the same in Scotland too.

It doesn't help that half-witted huns thought it was a loyalist question, instead of the opportunity to forge their own destiny!

Thanks for that, TD.......there's no experience like first-hand experience.
We need people like you Deadner to educate and keep us up to date with the news and views in irish politics in the North, don't be shy we need you mate
 
Living in the six counties, I can't see for the foreseeable future, a United Ireland. There are many reasons for this. For anyone who doesn't live here, there is still a fierce bitterness from the unionist community. There would be war again if it were to happen.
There is also a lot of the catholic community who wouldn't want to be part of the south. Simply because they would be losing out on nhs, free schooling etc. The people in the south are getting fleeced.
Then you have the people in the south who want nothing to do with the north. A lot of them simply have no clue as to what went on here and just couldn't care less( especially the younger generation).
Then you have the brexit situation, which could change everyone's opinion, simply because no one seems to know what will happen with the border.
Also if Scotland go for another independence referendum and manage to push it through this time, then that will break up the so called Union and then we're all laughin.
So to cut a long story short, I can't see it. But I hope I'm wrong!
Hit the nail on the head. WE dont live there. HH
 
No. I also see civil war as a cert as soon as it looks likely. Would the south want that? I don’t think they would. If anybody thinks the unionists would accept it then I think they are mistaken.

Having a romantic notion is fine, the reality of countless thousands dying is what needs to be grappled with.

Some might think that’s s price worth paying, but unless you will be in line to pay that price then it’s a different matter.

Religion is the scourge of Ireland and many other places around the world right now. And when the forces of god are involved, it never ends well. Never has and never will.

The divisions post Good Friday are still there. My fear is they always will. If in 50 years the population is heavily in a nationalist majority it might happen, but it would still lead to war. That’s sadly the bottom line. As long as old hatred and division is the rule of the day then conflict is inevitable.
 
A federal 32 county republic of Ireland which guarantees civil and religious liberty for all is the only way forward. The nodding dog that is the DUP in Westminster is increasingly out of touch with reality. Their only kudos comes from the balance of power they hold at this time. With all the hoo hah going on about credit people in the six counties will grow increasingly aware of their irrelevance. It's coming as surely as night follows day. Discussion between combatants in this conflict, surrounding a federal solution have taken place historically and the EEC stance 're any backstop pertaining to credit helps to show where true solidarity may lead. Peace to all.
 
While this was originally about religion, that's not so much the case anymore. It's more about irish versus british. Religion has taken a serious hit in the last twenty to thirty years. There are a lot less people in Ireland north and south practicing their religion nowadays.
I think a major factor that could lead to a United ireland, ironically, is Scotland. If Scotland can push though an independence vote to pull out of the so called Union, then all hell will break loose. The planters will then shit themselves. So come on to fuck and get your finger out!
Funny thing about all this, if you've ever seen Ian paisleys final interview before he died, when reporter Eamon mallie asked him "when you die and you approach the pearly gates and St. Peter asks what your nationality is. What will you say?". To which Paisley responded "Irish. I've never been anything else". I thought you awkward bastard and all the shite you've caused over the years!
 
I might also add that it's not only the farming community that feels that way, there will still be many of the Rule Brittania mob who will want to cling on to the status quo though, even though the UK has never gave a monkeys about both communities


They get better grants from europe and export rates too.

Ah wonder if they’ll choke on their soup. Bams.
 
My Great Grandfather was a Mullingar man..

You may talk and write and boast about your Fenians and your clans,
And how the boys from County Cork beat up the Black and Tan.
And view a little codger who came out without a scar.
His name is Paddy Mulligan, the man from Mullingar.


The Peelers chased him out of Connemara,
For beatin' up the valiant Dan O'Hara.
And when he came to Ballymoney, he stole the Parson's car,
And he sold it to the Bishop in the town of Castlebar.
Seven hundred Peelers couldn't catch him.
The Chieftain paid the army for to catch him.
And when he came to Dublin Town, he stole an armoured car
And sold it to the IRA brigade in Mullingar.


Well the Peelers got their orders to suppress the man on sight.
So they sent for reinforcements through the county left and right.
Three thousand men surrounded him, they hunted near and far.
But he was with the IRA in Johnston's Motor Car.

The Peelers chased him out of Connemara,
For beatin' up the valiant Dan O'Hara.
And when he came to Ballymore, he stole the Parson's car,
And he sold it to the Bishop in the town of Castlegar.
Seven hundred Peelers couldn't match him.
The Chieftain paid the army for to catch him.
And when he came to Dublin Town, he stole an armoured car
And sold it to the IRA brigade in Mullingar.

They came with tanks and armoured cars, they came with all their might.
Them Peelers never counted on old Paddy's dynamite.
On the fourteenth day of April, well he blew them to July.
And the name of Paddy Mulligan took half of Ireland's pride.


Love it Brim. ??
 
While this was originally about religion, that's not so much the case anymore. It's more about irish versus british. Religion has taken a serious hit in the last twenty to thirty years. There are a lot less people in Ireland north and south practicing their religion nowadays.
I think a major factor that could lead to a United ireland, ironically, is Scotland. If Scotland can push though an independence vote to pull out of the so called Union, then all hell will break loose. The planters will then shit themselves. So come on to fuck and get your finger out!
Funny thing about all this, if you've ever seen Ian paisleys final interview before he died, when reporter Eamon mallie asked him "when you die and you approach the pearly gates and St. Peter asks what your nationality is. What will you say?". To which Paisley responded "Irish. I've never been anything else". I thought you awkward bastard and all the shite you've caused over the years!


St Peter said yer names no down yer not comin in.

Smyted the bastard to hell.

Fkn soup taker at the 11th hour. Fkn joker ?
 
Question is one asked often!
I live in Ireland, but have spent a lot of time in the oxymoron labelled uk and visited a few other supposed united lands!

I do not think or state the following just to convince myself, I state this as a absolute reality of having travelled across both Islands.
The irony is this, Ireland the entire Island is and its peoples generally are united in comparison, and they have generally been for a long time a far more 'a single place', 'a united land', a Island and a name and a nation place that is viewed globally as one entity far more so than Columba's other island.

So the question is
Will the uk ever credibly live up to it's own chosen title claims Great and United? Or just continue to influence enough to imagine so via state crafted looking out windows!

The other reality is apart from extreme states, there are no truly united nations anywhere.

Anyone who feels as one just because of a title or what some politician or laughably worse what some supposed monarch says, or because of the colours of a flag, are living a blinkered sheltered immature even if possibly content happy enough life.

Human beings will never be as one, until threatened by something else, and even then soon enough some will side with the threat to form an alliance. For that is reality of human kind.

People everywhere in somewhere different, somewhere that you can't physically meet or see in an instant, and that's not far away are and have always been different enough, like anywhere else on this massive but tiny planet in a looking out to the sky sense.

Ireland is getting on just fine, its the people like everywhere else that are a whole different far
more complex reality.
 
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Question is one asked often!
I live in Ireland, but have spent a lot of time in the oxymoron labelled uk and visited a few other supposed united lands!

I do not state this in any way just to convince myself, I state this as a absolute reality of having travelled across both Islands.
The irony is this, Ireland the entire Island is and has been for a long time generally a far more 'a single place', a united land, a Island and a name a place that is viewed globally as one entity far more so than Columba's other island.

So the question is
Will the uk ever live up to it's claim? and one day have a majority who see more issues closer to home, many more problems and divisions within, than their imaginations currently can imagine looking out through state designed imagination looking out windows.
Or will they somehow remain as a supposed 'one' stuck together content in blissful ignorance to reality of what is around them!

The other reality is apart from extreme states, there are no truly united nations anywhere.

Anyone who feels better just because of a title or what some politician says or the colours of a flag, are living a blinkered sheltered immature even if possibly content happy enough life.

Human beings will never be as one, until threatened by something else.

Chinese Robots are likely the future, but Ireland the land will still be here among the leaves blowing in the wind, watching them all come and go and all their imaginations sink to under the earth.
The people have always been different enough, like anywhere else on this massive but tiny planet in a looking out the imagined window sense.


Each to their own Jim but a lot of people the world over have died in their millions because of the butchers apron. If my hatred of that denotes my immaturity then i’m 100% immature.

HH ☘️
 
Question is one asked often!
I live in Ireland, but have spent a lot of time in the oxymoron labelled uk and visited a few other supposed united lands!

I do not think or state the following just to convince myself, I state this as a absolute reality of having travelled across both Islands.
The irony is this, Ireland the entire Island is and its peoples generally are united in comparison, and they have generally been for a long time a far more 'a single place', 'a united land', a Island and a name and a nation place that is viewed globally as one entity far more so than Columba's other island.

So the question is
Will the uk ever credibly live up to it's own chosen title claims Great and United? Or just continue to influence enough to imagine so via state crafted looking out windows!

The other reality is apart from extreme states, there are no truly united nations anywhere.

Anyone who feels as one just because of a title or what some politician or laughably worse what some supposed monarch says, or because of the colours of a flag, are living a blinkered sheltered immature even if possibly content happy enough life.

Human beings will never be as one, until threatened by something else, and even then soon enough some will side with the threat to form an alliance. For that is reality of human kind.

People everywhere in somewhere different, somewhere that you can't physically meet or see in an instant, and that's not far away are and have always been different enough, like anywhere else on this massive but tiny planet in a looking out to the sky sense.

Ireland is getting on just fine, its the people like everywhere else that are a whole different far
more complex reality.
Intriguing thought provoking post. As JL said, Imagine...
 
The problem is Jim, in generalities. Like you I have travelled extensively throughout these islands. I have witnessed the threat culture you have written of and the getting along you appear to laud. There is then, obviously no problem, annual or otherwise with marches of triumphalism state wide and the residents of garvaghy road are in error? The Pyrex of sectarianism lit on the 11th are really beacons of peace lit by peaceful and reconciliation minded natives
 
The problem is Jim, in generalities. Like you I have travelled extensively throughout these islands. I have witnessed the threat culture you have written of and the getting along you appear to laud. There is then, obviously no problem, annual or otherwise with marches of triumphalism state wide and the residents of garvaghy road are in error? The Pyrex of sectarianism lit on the 11th are really beacons of peace lit by peaceful and reconciliation minded natives

Too post Micmac ???
 

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