The Deadner
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I'm afraid I don't agree with you Jim. Now as far as I can remember, I think you're from cork? And while I'm sure you've travelled all over Ireland and beyond, but I can assure you Ireland is not getting on just fine. Ireland is getting on, because it has no choice. Time and life has to keep moving.Question is one asked often!
I live in Ireland, but have spent a lot of time in the oxymoron labelled uk and visited a few other supposed united lands!
I do not think or state the following just to convince myself, I state this as a absolute reality of having travelled across both Islands.
The irony is this, Ireland the entire Island is and its peoples generally are united in comparison, and they have generally been for a long time a far more 'a single place', 'a united land', a Island and a name and a nation place that is viewed globally as one entity far more so than Columba's other island.
So the question is
Will the uk ever credibly live up to it's own chosen title claims Great and United? Or just continue to influence enough to imagine so via state crafted looking out windows!
The other reality is apart from extreme states, there are no truly united nations anywhere.
Anyone who feels as one just because of a title or what some politician or laughably worse what some supposed monarch says, or because of the colours of a flag, are living a blinkered sheltered immature even if possibly content happy enough life.
Human beings will never be as one, until threatened by something else, and even then soon enough some will side with the threat to form an alliance. For that is reality of human kind.
People everywhere in somewhere different, somewhere that you can't physically meet or see in an instant, and that's not far away are and have always been different enough, like anywhere else on this massive but tiny planet in a looking out to the sky sense.
Ireland is getting on just fine, its the people like everywhere else that are a whole different far
more complex reality.
I grew up in the six counties steeped in Irish history and culture. I am a sports fanatic, but above all, a gaa fanatic. Yet when we played teams from the south we were regularly told on the field of play to fuck off back to England. And I know this wasn't everyone, but it happened. Then when you encountered Protestants in the north, you were told to fuck off down south, usually accompanied by the term "ye fenian bastard". I suppose the point I'm trying to make is, as a catholic/nationalist born and raised in the six counties, I am 100% Irish, but felt the 26 counties didn't want us and I didn't want to have anything to do with the other fuckers occupying our island. So you were in limbo I suppose.
I'm afraid that feeling still exists to this day, unfortunately!