St Patrick's day

Well I completely understand where JimMc and TD are coming from and this thread was started as a light hearted thread about celebrating St Patrick’s day. SP yes this thread had moved on to other topics but TD had stsrted it as he did about St Patrick and so TD and JMc had every right to continue even after a day to discuss their arguments. There is no time limit surely and who decides time is up on a discussion. I’m well aware that some threads are taken off topic maybe to deflect from certain issues that maybe I know nothing of.

I can only put this quite simply as I’m not so well equipped academically as others in this debate. I’m Irish by decent and when I celebrate St Patrick’s day it’s in memory of the fight my ancestors had for their Faith here in Reformation Scotland. I celebrate that with joy and happiness and that they were strong and passed that down the generations to me. I’m Scottish by birth etc but I will always feel close to my Irish ancestors and their struggle. Maybe some might call it blind faith but if they fought for it then it was worth that fight to pass on.

I was taught well by my Mum about the British establishment and how they attacked the Irish people through so called ‘comedy’ programmes here and ridiculed the Catholic faith endlessly in the 60’s and 70’s tv. We never were allowed to watch them when we were young adults.
Apologies, thought you were a man.....
Assumption is the mother and father of all fuck ups!
 
Thanks your too kind. I should change that name but not got a scoobie how to - just one of the drawbacks of being in the older generation technology can prove to be difficult?


Admin can change it if you wanted. Just pm whichever administrator is online.

Maybe go for legs eleven ?
 
Apologies, thought you were a man.....
Assumption is the mother and father of all fuck ups!

Awe don’t worry about daft stuff like that Deadner more things going on than that as we know. I must see if I can get help to change my name on it if possible. HH
 
Tet you are truly something else pal ???

The immaculate heart of mary the only human being to have a perfect heart from conception till death. No error in that heart.

And that heart gave birth to the sacred heart of God

Purity and real humility (perfect truth)
gave birth to the way the truth and the life

the source of all truth grace and the mysteries of faith (aka hidden in the sacraments)

When you clear the eye of obstacles you can see
When you unclutter the ear you can hear better
When you unclutter the conscious mind you can reason better

When you unclutter the heart you love God and all his creation for he made it all

Latria worship for God alone
Hyperdulia most veneration for the immaculate heart aka the immaculate conception spouse of the spirit of God
Dulia for all the adopted children of the immaculate mother of divine grace (venerationf or the saints)
Prayers for the church suffering-souls in purgatory (kingdom of god but not allowed into the mystical city) awaiting cleansing of impure heart before entry into Mystical city known as sheol. church suffering is also every human who suffers in this world, which includes every soul alive in flesh.

Outside the kingdom of god is preternatural realm or fallen creation. And lucifer, the mightiest creation ever made until the immaculate conception, is Prince of the world outside the kingdom of God.

The univesre is somewhere that overalps both kingdom of God and the preternatural realms.
There are parts of preternatural realm outside the universe and the order of Divine Glory (supernatural realm) is most definately outside the universe.

The order of grace is spirtual domain that connects order of glory aka the Mystical city of God with the rest of creation into the prternatural realm as far as sheol or purgatory. Beyond purgatory is the ever declining circles of hell. These realms are beyond grace at their own request for grace compels obedience. And the souls who choose hell or are sentenced there cannot obey the truth And the cleansing fires of purgatory cannot cleanse them through their obstinate will and intellect and memory, and the fires that should cleanse just burn for eternity.

Grace is available to all but most chose self will through temptation.

Its lunacy really. If god offered mankind the wealth of world for one lifetime then eternal pain and suffering then he would be evil. But insted he offers grace which is infinaely more valuable than all the wealth of the universe. But we reject eteranl grace and glory for temporal satisfaction of inner vice. We freely choose spiritual death for eternity for absolutely nothing we can take into the spiritual realm.

And it becomes our hell of our own choice.

Thats the stumbling block for the jews in bible. They thought chosen people means we are the people and gentiles are the slaves.

Same error protestats make. they want a wealthy life here and assume they get it next life just by saying I believe, but if they belived they would listen to the gospel and they would get bptised into the spirit of christ which is only authorised by the group christ gave authority. the true sainst of the catholic church.

The stumbling block for jews and protestants is stupidity of the gentiles (pagans, occult, pantheism, nature worship, new age etc etcetc) the gentiles who are the non israelite tribes in bible all belive in worldy glory and the way of of inner passions or self way is best. The God of everything would never have sacrificed himslef in their world. But the justice required to undo the fall of nature from grace required an infinite sacrifice and nothing else than God could balance the scale.

The spirituality that doesnt conform to fascist judaistic errors or the gentile religions have some truth but always reject that grace is required which comes to self will again. Cant reach god without sacrificing self for greater glory of god. which requires grace to break the slavery to self will.

And the only religion who teaches this (not saying they practise what they preach always, but thats coasue they too are fighting the inner battles with vices) is the Catholic church.

Protestants may be correct that if they repent on their cross jus before death beinga member of the church in life may not be neccessary, but it is at least very presumtious.

anyone who repents on their death bed can and will be saved but proably through the fires of purging in fight between super natural and prternatural spiritual world, and that may be a very long battle for the soul between the accuser Satan and the advocate our lady in front of the judge our lord.

Repentance on death bed requires great grace and may not be forthcoming if you havent built up the practice of virtues in life. Therefore prayers forthe living and the dead in purgaory the church suffering is neccesary and if you pray then you have become part of the church militant. and the hope is that you will be part of the church triumphant or Glorious in eternal heaven with the angels the sainst the blessed mother your advocate of mercy and christ the king of Justice at the righthand of the great white throne of light of unbgotten Glory in union with the spirit of eternal unbegtton grace and true. A hierachy of perfection at the wedding feast of the lamb and the bride his church.

Its all ben made easy by christ and his way yet still we opt for our way, my way, i did it my way with no regrets, erm ahem, in the temporal realm maybe, just wait till your a reside in the preternatural realms, and just hope that eternal justice doesnt cast you out ofthegrace of redemption. Regrets will becoem eternal blasphemy and gnashing of teeth with the pestilent breath of evil and remorse burning into the vices you aquired in life.

But be confident and frequent the sacraments and try to work with grace in carnal life and do your best always and grace will help you in the next life. And never despair ever. Trust in christ. Dont point at his supposed leaders and say look at that, but try and see christ in every created thing especially those who hate you and suffer with grace with christs suffering children and pray for those who persecute you and well the martyrs of love never go to hell.

Probably get banned now but hey ill say a prayer if i do.
 
The immaculate heart of mary the only human being to have a perfect heart from conception till death. No error in that heart.

And that heart gave birth to the sacred heart of God

Purity and real humility (perfect truth)
gave birth to the way the truth and the life

the source of all truth grace and the mysteries of faith (aka hidden in the sacraments)

When you clear the eye of obstacles you can see
When you unclutter the ear you can hear better
When you unclutter the conscious mind you can reason better

When you unclutter the heart you love God and all his creation for he made it all

Latria worship for God alone
Hyperdulia most veneration for the immaculate heart aka the immaculate conception spouse of the spirit of God
Dulia for all the adopted children of the immaculate mother of divine grace (venerationf or the saints)
Prayers for the church suffering-souls in purgatory (kingdom of god but not allowed into the mystical city) awaiting cleansing of impure heart before entry into Mystical city known as sheol. church suffering is also every human who suffers in this world, which includes every soul alive in flesh.

Outside the kingdom of god is preternatural realm or fallen creation. And lucifer, the mightiest creation ever made until the immaculate conception, is Prince of the world outside the kingdom of God.

The univesre is somewhere that overalps both kingdom of God and the preternatural realms.
There are parts of preternatural realm outside the universe and the order of Divine Glory (supernatural realm) is most definately outside the universe.

The order of grace is spirtual domain that connects order of glory aka the Mystical city of God with the rest of creation into the prternatural realm as far as sheol or purgatory. Beyond purgatory is the ever declining circles of hell. These realms are beyond grace at their own request for grace compels obedience. And the souls who choose hell or are sentenced there cannot obey the truth And the cleansing fires of purgatory cannot cleanse them through their obstinate will and intellect and memory, and the fires that should cleanse just burn for eternity.

Grace is available to all but most chose self will through temptation.

Its lunacy really. If god offered mankind the wealth of world for one lifetime then eternal pain and suffering then he would be evil. But insted he offers grace which is infinaely more valuable than all the wealth of the universe. But we reject eteranl grace and glory for temporal satisfaction of inner vice. We freely choose spiritual death for eternity for absolutely nothing we can take into the spiritual realm.

And it becomes our hell of our own choice.

Thats the stumbling block for the jews in bible. They thought chosen people means we are the people and gentiles are the slaves.

Same error protestats make. they want a wealthy life here and assume they get it next life just by saying I believe, but if they belived they would listen to the gospel and they would get bptised into the spirit of christ which is only authorised by the group christ gave authority. the true sainst of the catholic church.

The stumbling block for jews and protestants is stupidity of the gentiles (pagans, occult, pantheism, nature worship, new age etc etcetc) the gentiles who are the non israelite tribes in bible all belive in worldy glory and the way of of inner passions or self way is best. The God of everything would never have sacrificed himslef in their world. But the justice required to undo the fall of nature from grace required an infinite sacrifice and nothing else than God could balance the scale.

The spirituality that doesnt conform to fascist judaistic errors or the gentile religions have some truth but always reject that grace is required which comes to self will again. Cant reach god without sacrificing self for greater glory of god. which requires grace to break the slavery to self will.

And the only religion who teaches this (not saying they practise what they preach always, but thats coasue they too are fighting the inner battles with vices) is the Catholic church.

Protestants may be correct that if they repent on their cross jus before death beinga member of the church in life may not be neccessary, but it is at least very presumtious.

anyone who repents on their death bed can and will be saved but proably through the fires of purging in fight between super natural and prternatural spiritual world, and that may be a very long battle for the soul between the accuser Satan and the advocate our lady in front of the judge our lord.

Repentance on death bed requires great grace and may not be forthcoming if you havent built up the practice of virtues in life. Therefore prayers forthe living and the dead in purgaory the church suffering is neccesary and if you pray then you have become part of the church militant. and the hope is that you will be part of the church triumphant or Glorious in eternal heaven with the angels the sainst the blessed mother your advocate of mercy and christ the king of Justice at the righthand of the great white throne of light of unbgotten Glory in union with the spirit of eternal unbegtton grace and true. A hierachy of perfection at the wedding feast of the lamb and the bride his church.

Its all ben made easy by christ and his way yet still we opt for our way, my way, i did it my way with no regrets, erm ahem, in the temporal realm maybe, just wait till your a reside in the preternatural realms, and just hope that eternal justice doesnt cast you out ofthegrace of redemption. Regrets will becoem eternal blasphemy and gnashing of teeth with the pestilent breath of evil and remorse burning into the vices you aquired in life.

But be confident and frequent the sacraments and try to work with grace in carnal life and do your best always and grace will help you in the next life. And never despair ever. Trust in christ. Dont point at his supposed leaders and say look at that, but try and see christ in every created thing especially those who hate you and suffer with grace with christs suffering children and pray for those who persecute you and well the martyrs of love never go to hell.

Probably get banned now but hey ill say a prayer if i do.

Why would you get banned?
 
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