An Aussie-Greek perspective on Ange Postecoglou

Aussie-Greek said:
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As you can see, Ange has experience in rebuilding clubs that are facing crises and turning them into champions - after in places with little to no resources, like Brisbane Roar and the Australia National Team, and with Yokohama with some resources. With his experience of achieving successful rebuilds, many Aussies say it will "take a season", but don't consider the immense resources he will play with at Celtic. Ange has never had this kind of resources at his disposal before. But none-the-less, he is an absolute specialist of picking up rough diamonds and polishing them into confident and forward looking players.

There's also been an exaggeration that Ange does not focus on defence etc, but this is bs. Ange was a defender during his playing career and can certainly form up a good back line.

Also, many believe that Ange is one who might stick to the press or something like this. Don't expect this, Ange is actually a man of few words. His fearsome reputation is for taking no bs, but usually out of the spotlight. yes there's that old video of him having it out for 15 minutes with the Australian reporter, but that was in 2007 and sunk his career to massive lows. Since this, his media engagement is very different. His no nonsense attitude will be towards the board and players, but most likely not to the media. He keeps most things out of the public eye.

Aussies have been massively hysterical over Ange because it is the first time an Aussie is managing a major football club. This is unprecedented in the Asian football continent. I find the reactions cringe, but yes, I am excited and pleased. The hysteria is because if there was one person we would put all our bets to represent an Asian/Aussie football manager at a major European club, it is him. I too am going to eat a huge slice of humble pie if Ange is a flop at Celtic.

Of course I do not know the problems of your club, only since Ange was linked to Celtic. But given his record of rebuilding clubs in crises, this is the EXACT type of thing Ange loves. He also RELISHES being written off as a potential failure. He has faced this at every step of his career and has ALWAYS humbled those who did not believe in him and proved them wrong. This is part of his persona, the underdog who always comes out on top. Believe me, he is not bothered one bit that the Scottish footballing community is laughing at him and predicting his failure. It's very Mourinho-like I guess, except without the cuntery.

If you guys have any questions about how Ange thinks, formulates teams, his past, why I believe he will succeed at Celtic (with my limited knowledge of your club's situation), etc etc, please do ask.

I've always been sympathetic to Celtic for political reasons, but now I will certainly be supporting your club under Ange. Hail Hail.
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Thanks for that and welcome fella
Outstanding post
 
Spherical Planet said:
If Ange can uncover fresh talent in the way that this site has with this lad, then we might be aways to turning the ship around, smelly
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Steady on with the Smelly stuff Captain, it is my name but do I remind you of poor drunken decisions :) Anyhow only the Shammy gets away with it,
Joking aside your right, i'm actually getting excited the more i read about the guy
Full steam ahead
 
Smelltheglove said:
Steady on with the Smelly stuff Captain, it is my name but do I remind you of poor drunken decisions :) Anyhow only the Shammy gets away with it,
Joking aside your right, i'm actually getting excited the more i read about the guy
Full steam ahead
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Ach, I'm Shammy's disciple, mate. I copy everything she does. I even cut my legs off below the knee so I could be 4'11" too.

Never realised how uncomfortable bras were though?
 
Aussie-Greek said:
Part 2:
As you can see, Ange has experience in rebuilding clubs that are facing crises and turning them into champions - after in places with little to no resources, like Brisbane Roar and the Australia National Team, and with Yokohama with some resources. With his experience of achieving successful rebuilds, many Aussies say it will "take a season", but don't consider the immense resources he will play with at Celtic. Ange has never had this kind of resources at his disposal before. But none-the-less, he is an absolute specialist of picking up rough diamonds and polishing them into confident and forward looking players.

There's also been an exaggeration that Ange does not focus on defence etc, but this is bs. Ange was a defender during his playing career and can certainly form up a good back line.

Also, many believe that Ange is one who might stick to the press or something like this. Don't expect this, Ange is actually a man of few words. His fearsome reputation is for taking no bs, but usually out of the spotlight. yes there's that old video of him having it out for 15 minutes with the Australian reporter, but that was in 2007 and sunk his career to massive lows. Since this, his media engagement is very different. His no nonsense attitude will be towards the board and players, but most likely not to the media. He keeps most things out of the public eye.

Aussies have been massively hysterical over Ange because it is the first time an Aussie is managing a major football club. This is unprecedented in the Asian football continent. I find the reactions cringe, but yes, I am excited and pleased. The hysteria is because if there was one person we would put all our bets to represent an Asian/Aussie football manager at a major European club, it is him. I too am going to eat a huge slice of humble pie if Ange is a flop at Celtic.

Of course I do not know the problems of your club, only since Ange was linked to Celtic. But given his record of rebuilding clubs in crises, this is the EXACT type of thing Ange loves. He also RELISHES being written off as a potential failure. He has faced this at every step of his career and has ALWAYS humbled those who did not believe in him and proved them wrong. This is part of his persona, the underdog who always comes out on top. Believe me, he is not bothered one bit that the Scottish footballing community is laughing at him and predicting his failure. It's very Mourinho-like I guess, except without the cuntery.

If you guys have any questions about how Ange thinks, formulates teams, his past, why I believe he will succeed at Celtic (with my limited knowledge of your club's situation), etc etc, please do ask.

I've always been sympathetic to Celtic for political reasons, but now I will certainly be supporting your club under Ange. Hail Hail.
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Welcome A-G, thanks for that piece, here's hoping we have uncovered an Aussie gold nugget in Ange. I get that he's well known down under and Japan, just wondered if he had ever been approached by any other European or even American clubs?
 
Aussie-Greek said:
Part 2:
As you can see, Ange has experience in rebuilding clubs that are facing crises and turning them into champions - after in places with little to no resources, like Brisbane Roar and the Australia National Team, and with Yokohama with some resources. With his experience of achieving successful rebuilds, many Aussies say it will "take a season", but don't consider the immense resources he will play with at Celtic. Ange has never had this kind of resources at his disposal before. But none-the-less, he is an absolute specialist of picking up rough diamonds and polishing them into confident and forward looking players.

There's also been an exaggeration that Ange does not focus on defence etc, but this is bs. Ange was a defender during his playing career and can certainly form up a good back line.

Also, many believe that Ange is one who might stick to the press or something like this. Don't expect this, Ange is actually a man of few words. His fearsome reputation is for taking no bs, but usually out of the spotlight. yes there's that old video of him having it out for 15 minutes with the Australian reporter, but that was in 2007 and sunk his career to massive lows. Since this, his media engagement is very different. His no nonsense attitude will be towards the board and players, but most likely not to the media. He keeps most things out of the public eye.

Aussies have been massively hysterical over Ange because it is the first time an Aussie is managing a major football club. This is unprecedented in the Asian football continent. I find the reactions cringe, but yes, I am excited and pleased. The hysteria is because if there was one person we would put all our bets to represent an Asian/Aussie football manager at a major European club, it is him. I too am going to eat a huge slice of humble pie if Ange is a flop at Celtic.

Of course I do not know the problems of your club, only since Ange was linked to Celtic. But given his record of rebuilding clubs in crises, this is the EXACT type of thing Ange loves. He also RELISHES being written off as a potential failure. He has faced this at every step of his career and has ALWAYS humbled those who did not believe in him and proved them wrong. This is part of his persona, the underdog who always comes out on top. Believe me, he is not bothered one bit that the Scottish footballing community is laughing at him and predicting his failure. It's very Mourinho-like I guess, except without the cuntery.

If you guys have any questions about how Ange thinks, formulates teams, his past, why I believe he will succeed at Celtic (with my limited knowledge of your club's situation), etc etc, please do ask.

I've always been sympathetic to Celtic for political reasons, but now I will certainly be supporting your club under Ange. Hail Hail.
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No disrespect AussieGreek but you have added nothing which has not already been widely covered by the pundits except the addition of your 'I'm Greek and a victim... WOGBOY ' nonsense. Other Aussies would cringe at that. It is true that at the time when Ange was a young teenager grappling with the Aussie secondary school he would have hung out with other kids of a Greek background and through football.... a common theme. Football at that time was divided into football clubs by nationality. As the game was getting a bad reputation due to riots and violence at 'ethnic' matches which was being covered by tv channels with vested interest in THUGBY LEAGUE in NSW and Ariel Ping-Pong in Victoria there came a decision to reform as a National organisation... National Soccer League and outlaw the use of Ethnic identification withing the naming of the clubs. So, no more Melbourne HELLAS (obvious Greek Reference, it was renamed South Melbourne which gave football a chance to grow without the stigma of being Greek, Italian, Croatian when trouble occurred. I have no idea how old you are but I lived through it and was connected as my best mate was the captain of South Melbourne for some years before retiring. He also won the State League (before the National League was formed) so I spent a lot of time with the Croatians at South Sydney Croatia (State title winners). When the National League was formed I also spent time in Adelaide with South Adelaide (formerly an Italian team in Adelaide)
As for your assertions about being a Greek underdog. That is mostly of your own making and it might be better if you did not make it into a Greek Tragedy.
By the way ethnic Australians were referred to as 'WOGS' in those days and WOGBOY was one of Australias favourite tv shows winning many awards around that time. It was no insult just a point of difference.
But WELCOME to the 'Noise' AG just keep it real if you can
 
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Vigobhoy said:
No disrespect AussieGreek but you have added nothing which has not already been widely covered by the pundits except the addition of your 'I'm Greek and a victim... WOGBOY ' nonsense. Other Aussies would cringe at that. It is true that at the time when Ange was a young teenager grappling with the Aussie secondary school he would have hung out with other kids of a Greek background and through football.... a common theme. Football at that time was divided into football clubs by nationality. As the game was getting a bad reputation due to riots and violence at matches which was being covered by tv channels with vested interest in THUGBY LEAGUE in NSW and Ariel Ping-Pong in Victoria there came a decision to reform as a National organisation... National Soccer League and outlaw the use of Ethnic identification withing the naming of the clubs. So, no more Melbourne HELLAS (obvious Greek Reference, it was renamed South Melbourne which gave football a chance to grow without the stigma of being Greek, Italian, Croatian when trouble occurred. I have no idea how old you are but I lived through it and was connected as my best mate was the captain of South Melbourne for some years before retiring. He also won the State League (before the Ntaional League was formed) so I spent a lot of time with the Croatians at South Sydney Croatia (State title winners). When the National League was formed I also spent time in Adelaide with South Adelaide (formerly an Italian team is Adelaide)
As for your assertions about being a Greek underdog. That is mostly of your own making and it might be better if you did not make it into a Greek Tragedy.
By the way ethnic Australians were referred to as 'WOGS' in those days and WOGBOY was one of Australias favourite tv shows around that time. It was no insult just a point of difference.
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With respect, who are you to tell me about the Greek experience in Australia?

Things have certainly improved, thankfully, but it was dark days for many of us "wogs" when the A-league was established and were told we were no longer welcomed or needed in Australia's "new football" after we carried the game in Australia for 60 years when most of "White (Anglo) Australia" was calling it a game for "poofters and wogs."

The NSL was dead and desperate changes were needed, but Ange was shut out purely for the reason that he had the attachment of being with "old soccer" - and no one in their right mind denies this. In fact, even a Sydney Morning Herald reporter (of Italian origin) mentioned this fact (but did not dive into it) in a podcast he did about Ange at Celtic.


Please do not engage in historical revisionism.
 
Vigobhoy said:
No disrespect AussieGreek but you have added nothing which has not already been widely covered by the pundits except the addition of your 'I'm Greek and a victim... WOGBOY ' nonsense. Other Aussies would cringe at that. It is true that at the time when Ange was a young teenager grappling with the Aussie secondary school he would have hung out with other kids of a Greek background and through football.... a common theme. Football at that time was divided into football clubs by nationality. As the game was getting a bad reputation due to riots and violence at matches which was being covered by tv channels with vested interest in THUGBY LEAGUE in NSW and Ariel Ping-Pong in Victoria there came a decision to reform as a National organisation... National Soccer League and outlaw the use of Ethnic identification withing the naming of the clubs. So, no more Melbourne HELLAS (obvious Greek Reference, it was renamed South Melbourne which gave football a chance to grow without the stigma of being Greek, Italian, Croatian when trouble occurred. I have no idea how old you are but I lived through it and was connected as my best mate was the captain of South Melbourne for some years before retiring. He also won the State League (before the Ntaional League was formed) so I spent a lot of time with the Croatians at South Sydney Croatia (State title winners). When the National League was formed I also spent time in Adelaide with South Adelaide (formerly an Italian team is Adelaide)
As for your assertions about being a Greek underdog. That is mostly of your own making and it might be better if you did not make it into a Greek Tragedy.
By the way ethnic Australians were referred to as 'WOGS' in those days and WOGBOY was one of Australias favourite tv shows around that time. It was no insult just a point of difference.
But WELCOME to the 'Noise' AG just keep it real if you can
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The Shamrock said:
Let the hun press undermine him, write him off and have their wee laugh, taking back our League will leave them looking daft again.

Let the zombies think he's no competition for that will lead to a complacent attitude.
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As I said before I think Ange might just cost Slippy his job next season.
 
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Vigobhoy said:
As I said before I think Ange might just cost Slippy his job next season.
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I’d be VERY surprised if he’s still the hun manager next season, his stock has never been higher, I think he’ll take the 1st English based job that offered to him, if he loses the league next season he’ll be sacked, missing out on a big English job, he’ll never step straight into his dream Liverpool job from the Huns, needs another English team to step up the ladder, the English think our league is shite 💩
 
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