Carry on regardless (Stupid as mud)

TTQtKK

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I read a headline today; didn’t click on it as referenced a trumpet! The gist was that Ibrahimović would struggle at Celtic. A former denizen of the ‘big hoose’ was apparently giving his view on whether the big Swede would be a success at Scotland’s top club.

Despite what anyone may think of Zlatan’s personality no one can say he doesn’t succeed wherever he goes. The man is a top footballer; and top footballers are not the specialist subject of anyone from, or who follows, the zombie club. They are too busy hating.

My point being that this guy and so many others of his ilk are irrelevant and add nothing of any value to any debate, football or otherwise. I happen to believe that our main opponents in Scotland should be an irrelevance also but we don’t seem to be able to switch off from them. That’s understandable if you believe, as I do, that they are a symptom of a sickness in Scottish Society. An abomination born from hatred; an all too saleable commodity in this world. This scab has been allowed to grow from dead cells, cultured in the mad scientist’s castle that is Hampden Park. The Frankenstein monster of football.

Yet I don’t think I hate them, I want that club dead for sure, but I want this so it and the kind of people that follow them become irrelevant. For me the curing of that symptom would represent the start of a real cure for the illness that is still prevalent in Scotland.

I know that the above would suggest a bit of nastiness on my part, especially as like me many of you will know and have friends who follow them. Perhaps like I have thought in the past, you will think ‘I know some decent ones’. If that’s true then ask yourself what is decent about following an organisation that cannot bring itself to condemn racism outright? That pays only lip service to promoting inclusion for all? Or only reacts if they are called out or punished?

I’ve asked some of their supporters that I know and it is not a comfortable discussion. I guess I’m old enough now not to worry greatly about offending someone, albeit I don’t go out of my way to offend people. What I’ve come to believe, rightly or wrongly, is that those who are steeped in this centuries old outdated culture of hate and those that carry their inverted superiority complex so proudly, hate the very existence of people like me. They don’t hate Celtic fans, we are just the most obvious incarnation of what they hate. They hate anyone who is not the same as them!

Many will tell you we are just the same, two sides of the same coin, two cheeks of the same…well you get the picture. But that can’t be true as that would be the same as saying the Jews were just as bad as the Nazis!

You’ll notice that I won’t refer to them by name, for me that is imbuing the monster with more relevance and a level of validity that has not been earned. I’ll go to any lengths to avoid using their name in written or spoken word, I even used the Swedish for new club, ‘ny klubb’, once before.

If I feel like this then why go to the effort of putting it down in writing, surely I’m giving them greater credence through the time I spent? Maybe so, but I do have a point, I want my club to stand up and be counted on this front. The resolution 12 requsitioners require our club to do this. Celtic are the top club in Scotland and as such can be a force in ensuring our game is not further dragged in to the mire by the inaction of the governing bodies (of which there are too many, but that’s another discussion) and the continued tolerance of the Ibrox infestation.

For the avoidance of doubt I love the fact that as a team we are dominant in Scottish football and are even showing some signs that we can compete at a better level in Europe. This has been achieved through good governance; even if I am unsure whether it was intended or not.

The reason for my doubt is the apparent unwillingness of Celtic to pursue the intent of resolution 12. I can’t fathom the acceptance of a seemingly obvious fraud and I can’t accept that our club has let this fester to the point that a new incarnation is being allowed to carry on without any real oversight. Our media’s complete u-turn from funeral wreaths to rosy gardens is a level of cognitive dissonance that is just bizarre, completely and utterly weird! And now they ignore probably the biggest disconnect between Celtic and a large portion of our supporter base in my memory. That is a story, unless of course it’s only a few of us that feel this passionately about it. My feeling is that time will erode those of us who feel this way and those in boardroom will carry on regardless. I hope we’re not stupid as mud for believing we are more than a club.

The next AGM will tell us I guess.

HH.
 

tictastic

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I read a headline today; didn’t click on it as referenced a trumpet! The gist was that Ibrahimović would struggle at Celtic. A former denizen of the ‘big hoose’ was apparently giving his view on whether the big Swede would be a success at Scotland’s top club.

Despite what anyone may think of Zlatan’s personality no one can say he doesn’t succeed wherever he goes. The man is a top footballer; and top footballers are not the specialist subject of anyone from, or who follows, the zombie club. They are too busy hating.

My point being that this guy and so many others of his ilk are irrelevant and add nothing of any value to any debate, football or otherwise. I happen to believe that our main opponents in Scotland should be an irrelevance also but we don’t seem to be able to switch off from them. That’s understandable if you believe, as I do, that they are a symptom of a sickness in Scottish Society. An abomination born from hatred; an all too saleable commodity in this world. This scab has been allowed to grow from dead cells, cultured in the mad scientist’s castle that is Hampden Park. The Frankenstein monster of football.

Yet I don’t think I hate them, I want that club dead for sure, but I want this so it and the kind of people that follow them become irrelevant. For me the curing of that symptom would represent the start of a real cure for the illness that is still prevalent in Scotland.

I know that the above would suggest a bit of nastiness on my part, especially as like me many of you will know and have friends who follow them. Perhaps like I have thought in the past, you will think ‘I know some decent ones’. If that’s true then ask yourself what is decent about following an organisation that cannot bring itself to condemn racism outright? That pays only lip service to promoting inclusion for all? Or only reacts if they are called out or punished?

I’ve asked some of their supporters that I know and it is not a comfortable discussion. I guess I’m old enough now not to worry greatly about offending someone, albeit I don’t go out of my way to offend people. What I’ve come to believe, rightly or wrongly, is that those who are steeped in this centuries old outdated culture of hate and those that carry their inverted superiority complex so proudly, hate the very existence of people like me. They don’t hate Celtic fans, we are just the most obvious incarnation of what they hate. They hate anyone who is not the same as them!

Many will tell you we are just the same, two sides of the same coin, two cheeks of the same…well you get the picture. But that can’t be true as that would be the same as saying the Jews were just as bad as the Nazis!

You’ll notice that I won’t refer to them by name, for me that is imbuing the monster with more relevance and a level of validity that has not been earned. I’ll go to any lengths to avoid using their name in written or spoken word, I even used the Swedish for new club, ‘ny klubb’, once before.

If I feel like this then why go to the effort of putting it down in writing, surely I’m giving them greater credence through the time I spent? Maybe so, but I do have a point, I want my club to stand up and be counted on this front. The resolution 12 requsitioners require our club to do this. Celtic are the top club in Scotland and as such can be a force in ensuring our game is not further dragged in to the mire by the inaction of the governing bodies (of which there are too many, but that’s another discussion) and the continued tolerance of the Ibrox infestation.

For the avoidance of doubt I love the fact that as a team we are dominant in Scottish football and are even showing some signs that we can compete at a better level in Europe. This has been achieved through good governance; even if I am unsure whether it was intended or not.

The reason for my doubt is the apparent unwillingness of Celtic to pursue the intent of resolution 12. I can’t fathom the acceptance of a seemingly obvious fraud and I can’t accept that our club has let this fester to the point that a new incarnation is being allowed to carry on without any real oversight. Our media’s complete u-turn from funeral wreaths to rosy gardens is a level of cognitive dissonance that is just bizarre, completely and utterly weird! And now they ignore probably the biggest disconnect between Celtic and a large portion of our supporter base in my memory. That is a story, unless of course it’s only a few of us that feel this passionately about it. My feeling is that time will erode those of us who feel this way and those in boardroom will carry on regardless. I hope we’re not stupid as mud for believing we are more than a club.

The next AGM will tell us I guess.

HH.
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kelly

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I read a headline today; didn’t click on it as referenced a trumpet! The gist was that Ibrahimović would struggle at Celtic. A former denizen of the ‘big hoose’ was apparently giving his view on whether the big Swede would be a success at Scotland’s top club.

Despite what anyone may think of Zlatan’s personality no one can say he doesn’t succeed wherever he goes. The man is a top footballer; and top footballers are not the specialist subject of anyone from, or who follows, the zombie club. They are too busy hating.

My point being that this guy and so many others of his ilk are irrelevant and add nothing of any value to any debate, football or otherwise. I happen to believe that our main opponents in Scotland should be an irrelevance also but we don’t seem to be able to switch off from them. That’s understandable if you believe, as I do, that they are a symptom of a sickness in Scottish Society. An abomination born from hatred; an all too saleable commodity in this world. This scab has been allowed to grow from dead cells, cultured in the mad scientist’s castle that is Hampden Park. The Frankenstein monster of football.

Yet I don’t think I hate them, I want that club dead for sure, but I want this so it and the kind of people that follow them become irrelevant. For me the curing of that symptom would represent the start of a real cure for the illness that is still prevalent in Scotland.

I know that the above would suggest a bit of nastiness on my part, especially as like me many of you will know and have friends who follow them. Perhaps like I have thought in the past, you will think ‘I know some decent ones’. If that’s true then ask yourself what is decent about following an organisation that cannot bring itself to condemn racism outright? That pays only lip service to promoting inclusion for all? Or only reacts if they are called out or punished?

I’ve asked some of their supporters that I know and it is not a comfortable discussion. I guess I’m old enough now not to worry greatly about offending someone, albeit I don’t go out of my way to offend people. What I’ve come to believe, rightly or wrongly, is that those who are steeped in this centuries old outdated culture of hate and those that carry their inverted superiority complex so proudly, hate the very existence of people like me. They don’t hate Celtic fans, we are just the most obvious incarnation of what they hate. They hate anyone who is not the same as them!

Many will tell you we are just the same, two sides of the same coin, two cheeks of the same…well you get the picture. But that can’t be true as that would be the same as saying the Jews were just as bad as the Nazis!

You’ll notice that I won’t refer to them by name, for me that is imbuing the monster with more relevance and a level of validity that has not been earned. I’ll go to any lengths to avoid using their name in written or spoken word, I even used the Swedish for new club, ‘ny klubb’, once before.

If I feel like this then why go to the effort of putting it down in writing, surely I’m giving them greater credence through the time I spent? Maybe so, but I do have a point, I want my club to stand up and be counted on this front. The resolution 12 requsitioners require our club to do this. Celtic are the top club in Scotland and as such can be a force in ensuring our game is not further dragged in to the mire by the inaction of the governing bodies (of which there are too many, but that’s another discussion) and the continued tolerance of the Ibrox infestation.

For the avoidance of doubt I love the fact that as a team we are dominant in Scottish football and are even showing some signs that we can compete at a better level in Europe. This has been achieved through good governance; even if I am unsure whether it was intended or not.

The reason for my doubt is the apparent unwillingness of Celtic to pursue the intent of resolution 12. I can’t fathom the acceptance of a seemingly obvious fraud and I can’t accept that our club has let this fester to the point that a new incarnation is being allowed to carry on without any real oversight. Our media’s complete u-turn from funeral wreaths to rosy gardens is a level of cognitive dissonance that is just bizarre, completely and utterly weird! And now they ignore probably the biggest disconnect between Celtic and a large portion of our supporter base in my memory. That is a story, unless of course it’s only a few of us that feel this passionately about it. My feeling is that time will erode those of us who feel this way and those in boardroom will carry on regardless. I hope we’re not stupid as mud for believing we are more than a club.

The next AGM will tell us I guess.

HH.
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