You can take the man out of Gorgie but you can't Gorgie out of the man. I'm just using Gorgie as an example. Personally I'm fae possil, I may not have lived there for 45 years but I still come fae possil. If Griff has a shite lifestyle it's due to a lack of education BR managed to get him fitter and less likely to be a ned, maybe Howe could do the same as Griff is a better footballer and striker than he gets credit for. It depends does he want to be remembered as a goalscorer or as just another footballer who pissed it up a wall, or snorted it up his nose. I think somebody has to have an honest talk with him and I don't mean his agent. I think we all know players who fucked up careers by being arseholes and could have been very special players. HH