Don't let them take your mind

Thai Tim

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#21
Excuse my ignorance Thai, I obviously haven't looked at this as much as you but my question still stands...what's the fucking point. If it's to control us and pretend we aren't somehow divine and are just some random act that is spinning on a random ball amongst billions of random balls then why not just say we are on a random disc floating amongst random discs in space...the outcome is still the same and they wouldn't have to spend billions and billions of pounds as well as convince millions of people such as scientist, pilots and other jobs to lie to the masses on the hope that no one will tell their secret...doesn't make sense.
ALL people who believe in a Flat Earth thought the idea ridiculous until they investigated. Many became Flat Earthers because they started to research looking for proof of a spinning ball and all the evidence they found pointed to a Flat Earth. Your faith tells you never underestimate the deceit of the devil. Imagine you want to control the people on the planet and take God out of their lives, rendering them less insignificant than a grain of sand in a vast desert. Convincing the people there is no Creator and they are living on a spinning ball in a galaxy of trillions and trillions of similar planets, that everything was created from nothing due to a big bang, our descendants are monkeys and we evolved from pond sludge is genius.
 

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boab1916

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#22
Excuse my ignorance Thai, I obviously haven't looked at this as much as you but my question still stands...what's the fucking point. If it's to control us and pretend we aren't somehow divine and are just some random act that is spinning on a random ball amongst billions of random balls then why not just say we are on a random disc floating amongst random discs in space...the outcome is still the same and they wouldn't have to spend billions and billions of pounds as well as convince millions of people such as scientist, pilots and other jobs to lie to the masses on the hope that no one will tell their secret...doesn't make sense.
Of course it doesnt make sense neither does pretending you are following a club that ceased to exist, but look thats the intended audience and thats why its allowed, commercialism cares not a jot about truth as long as the cash keeps coming in and the tills ching ching then knock yourself out believing as long as you keep buying.
 

Lubos left peg

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#23
t's VERY difficult to win an argument/debate against a genius.
It's impossible to win an argument/debate against a moron.

Using math, and a ship. According to the "globe earth" people the total coast line distance of Antarctica is 7917 miles. According to the "flat earth" people the total coast line distance of Antarctica is 49202 miles. Get a ship. Go to Antarctica. Drive around the Antarctic with the Ice 10 miles off your port beam. Measure the time it takes to return to your original point. At 20 knots the globe earth time would be about 395 hours (about 16.5 days). At 20 knots the flat earth time would be about 2460 hours (about 102 days or 3 1/2 months). So my challenge to the "flat earthers" rent yourself a fucking boat. If you get back in less than 3 1/2 months , I will join your camp. that trip. It took 17 days..
Great point made by Boab, what's your answer to that thai?? Out of interest
 

Lubos left peg

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#24
Have any of your flat earth friends actually tried this what boab is proposing?? Hire a boat...I mean you could blow the whole "The world is a globe" theory out of the water. Surely there is enough flat earthers in the world that they could organise a whip round to hire a boat
 

boab1916

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#25
ALL people who believe in a Flat Earth thought the idea ridiculous until they investigated. Many became Flat Earthers because they started to research looking for proof of a spinning ball and all the evidence they found pointed to a Flat Earth. Your faith tells you never underestimate the deceit of the devil. Imagine you want to control the people on the planet and take God out of their lives, rendering them less insignificant than a grain of sand in a vast desert. Convincing the people there is no Creator and they are living on a spinning ball in a galaxy of trillions and trillions of similar planets, that everything was created from nothing due to a big bang, our descendants are monkeys and we evolved from pond sludge is genius.
Why do you assume God exists in everyones life instead of putting up medicine men of the modern era debate your theory based on Humes argument of design the watch and moving parts or Newtons theories for gravity or Galileos telescope . Stop trying to punt us your new L. Ron Hubbard self made gurus. Tick tock convince us these guys were taliking shite.
 

Thai Tim

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#26
t's VERY difficult to win an argument/debate against a genius.
It's impossible to win an argument/debate against a moron.

Using math, and a ship. According to the "globe earth" people the total coast line distance of Antarctica is 7917 miles. According to the "flat earth" people the total coast line distance of Antarctica is 49202 miles. Get a ship. Go to Antarctica. Drive around the Antarctic with the Ice 10 miles off your port beam. Measure the time it takes to return to your original point. At 20 knots the globe earth time would be about 395 hours (about 16.5 days). At 20 knots the flat earth time would be about 2460 hours (about 102 days or 3 1/2 months). So my challenge to the "flat earthers" rent yourself a fucking boat. If you get back in less than 3 1/2 months , I will join your camp. that trip. It took 17 days..
Although your suggestion is physically impossible to do, it shows you are thinking practically. An excerpt from the biography of Captain Cook... "
For two months Cook sailed alongside the pack, looking for an entrance to travel further south. Cape Circumcision was not to be found where reported and since he was well south of Kerguelen's discovery Cook determined that Kerguelen's La France Australe could not be part of a southern continent either. With the onset of winter, Cook sailed north and reached Dusky Sound, on the South Island of New Zealand, on March 25 after sailing some 10,600 miles through uncharted waters. He spent the winter exploring the islands of the South Pacific. During a storm Cook became separated from the ADVENTURE but, nevertheless, sailed south once again on November 27. He once again reached the ice pack, in mid December, and continued his search for a way through to the south. Cook's skill as a seaman and navigator cannot be challenged...through heavy storms and dangerous seas filled with huge icebergs the RESOLUTION survived without the loss of a single man. On January 30 he reached his furthest south but could go no further. The ice "extended east and west far beyond the reach of our sight, while the southern half of the horizon was illuminated by rays of light which were reflected from the ice to a considerable height...It was indeed my opinion that this ice extends quite to the Pole, or perhaps joins to some land to which it has been fixed since creation". If you want to skip the first 5 minutes the answer to your question / suggestion is 5 minutes 20 seconds in:
 

boab1916

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#27
Although your suggestion is physically impossible to do, it shows you are thinking practically. An excerpt from the biography of Captain Cook... "
For two months Cook sailed alongside the pack, looking for an entrance to travel further south. Cape Circumcision was not to be found where reported and since he was well south of Kerguelen's discovery Cook determined that Kerguelen's La France Australe could not be part of a southern continent either. With the onset of winter, Cook sailed north and reached Dusky Sound, on the South Island of New Zealand, on March 25 after sailing some 10,600 miles through uncharted waters. He spent the winter exploring the islands of the South Pacific. During a storm Cook became separated from the ADVENTURE but, nevertheless, sailed south once again on November 27. He once again reached the ice pack, in mid December, and continued his search for a way through to the south. Cook's skill as a seaman and navigator cannot be challenged...through heavy storms and dangerous seas filled with huge icebergs the RESOLUTION survived without the loss of a single man. On January 30 he reached his furthest south but could go no further. The ice "extended east and west far beyond the reach of our sight, while the southern half of the horizon was illuminated by rays of light which were reflected from the ice to a considerable height...It was indeed my opinion that this ice extends quite to the Pole, or perhaps joins to some land to which it has been fixed since creation". If you want to skip the first 5 minutes the answer to your question / suggestion is 5 minutes 20 seconds in:
Gies piece.
 

Thai Tim

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#28
Why do you assume God exists in everyones life instead of putting up medicine men of the modern era debate your theory based on Humes argument of design the watch and moving parts or Newtons theories for gravity or Galileos telescope . Stop trying to punt us your new L. Ron Hubbard self made gurus. Tick tock convince us these guys were taliking shite.
This happens nearly every time in a debate between globe believers and flat earthers and quite frankly is tedious. The globe believers always become rude, throw insults at the messenger and thereby try to close down any polite debate. I suggest you read more carefully because you have misrepresented what I wrote. I wrote "Imagine you want to control the people on the planet and take God out of their lives" If you read that statement it refers to the controllers of the people of the world or satan himself (not me), so its not me who's assuming God exists in everyone's lives. I hope you understand that?
 

Theverdict1

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#29
Could any flat earth nut please let us know where the edge is? And explain the circular shadows on the moon? Or the seasons? Or how darkness falls at different times across the globe? Or how you can sail around the world without doing an about turn? Or how or why we would need satellites?

Thanks in advance. :)
 

Weedocbhoy60

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#30

Well we all believed in that spinning ball, indoctrination planned in us all
From the very first day that we went to school, they put a globe in your face and that thing looked cool!
The teacher explained how it all worked, of course it sounded so berserk!
But who was I to question it, because I was just a tiny kid
It sounded crazy as could be but teacher would never lie to me?
She was real nice she didn't know, she too was taught to believe in that globe
I don't blame her, it wasn't her fault, she'd only been repeating what she was taught
I went through life believing that lie, that spinning ball was now in my mind

Don't let them take your mind
Don't let them tell you that you are not divine
Take control of your soul
Find the truth, find it all
Don't believe their lies

Don't let them take your mind

So I'm hurling through space on a road to nowhere, so I live my life without a care,
Cos' I was taught there ain't no creator, that's what I was told from my "educator"
So I lived my life so selfishly, there ain't gonna be no hell for me
I'll do what I want with no care for others, with no respect for my brothers
Until one day when I woke up and I drank some truth with my coffee cup
I learned that things ain't what they seem, this so-called reality is just a dream
There's deception everywhere that I look, the news, the tv and my school books
And pretty soon I realized that everything's just a pack of lies

Don't let them take your mind
Don't let them tell you that you are not divine
Take control of your soul
Find the truth, find it all
Don't believe their lies

Don't let them take your mind

It's deception on a biblical level, its orchestrated by the devil
Many think that hate don't exist, but that's what he wants that's one of his tricks
I found out that that dudes real, and I tell you man that's a bitter pill
So I questioned everything I was told, I had to question that spinning globe
I had to re learn it all again, and get some truth inside this brain
And pretty soon I realized, that the globe I was taught was a pack of lies
So I studied as hard as could be, I found the Flat Earth Conspiracy
Man it hit me like a ton of bricks! The globe I was taught is a devils trick

Don't let them take your mind
Don't let them tell you that you are not divine
Take control of your soul
Find the truth, find it all
Don't believe their lies

Don't let them take your mind

I started to connect the dots and I'm telling you man, there are lots!
I soon realized that the earth was flat, it's not a belief man, its a fact!
And once I found out that reality, well it did a funny thing to me
For a while there I was pretty shocked but now I know that there's a God
And once you get to that point of understanding, once you know there ain't no moon landing
Once you know that space is fake, you view your life with a different take
It ain't just random chance that we're here, we ain't living on no stupid sphere
It ain't some ridiculous spinning ball - the earth is FLAT and God created it all

Don't let them take your mind
Don't let them tell you that you are not divine
Take control of your soul
Find the truth, find it all
Don't believe their lies

Don't let them take your mind

Well now I've found out about all of these lies I live a completely different life
I stopped reading the news and turned off the tv - that thing is evil as can be
I started being a nicer guy, and God forbid I tell a lie
I treat people with more respect and I got me a wife that I'll never neglect
Being good is working out for me, now I ain't blinded and I can see
I know that there's a God above, and if I'm good then he'll show me love
I try to live life selflessly, to be the best that I can be
I treat people how I wanna be treated, that's since my indoctrination was defeated
So don't believe in the devil's lies, because its God he wants to hide
That's why they teach that spinning ball, to make you think you ain't special at all
Don't believe what your being told, don't believe that you evolved,
It's all an accident are you are too? No! Your someone special AND GOD MADE YOU!

Don't let them take your mind
Don't let them tell you that you are not divine
Take control of your soul
Find the truth, find it all
Don't believe their lies

Don't let them take your mind
Regardless of the shape of the Earth, there is only ONE TRUTH.
We are all gonna die one day.
 

boab1916

Well-known member
#31
This happens nearly every time in a debate between globe believers and flat earthers and quite frankly is tedious. The globe believers always become rude, throw insults at the messenger and thereby try to close down any polite debate. I suggest you read more carefully because you have misrepresented what I wrote. I wrote "Imagine you want to control the people on the planet and take God out of their lives" If you read that statement it refers to the controllers of the people of the world or satan himself (not me), so its not me who's assuming God exists in everyone's lives. I hope you understand that?
There is no satan mate again you bring in evidence you could not possibly back up, all your stuff is based on faith and belief, there is nothing factual in what you state.
1. prove god exists
2. prove satan exists
3. prove both without relying on books or faith, show documented evidence of both in film or in conversation with someone, no fishing rod spinning top out the window ufo pish. Thats the problem with nutjobs they think we are the nutjobs for not believing in their science with no facts, there is no end to your nonesense it is never debatedm at conventions you can say what the fuck you like, no-one will query it, why is it, is it because the person listening and the person making a claim both know in their minds hey are both talking shite, mate you should go to a dr who site or something, your daft mate tried it on with LG and got laughed at, just go before someone gives you the ethernets equivalent of a kick in the baws, even your videos look like those mad American evangenical videos, trumpets and glitter etc, your video looks like the fucking bee gees.
 

boab1916

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#32
Could any flat earth nut please let us know where the edge is? And explain the circular shadows on the moon? Or the seasons? Or how darkness falls at different times across the globe? Or how you can sail around the world without doing an about turn? Or how or why we would need satellites?

Thanks in advance. :)
Its not around the world its along the world and back when you reach the wall of ice that stops us falling off. remember that one.
 

Theverdict1

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#33
There is no satan mate again you bring in evidence you could not possibly back up, all your stuff is based on faith and belief, there is nothing factual in what you state.
1. prove god exists
2. prove satan exists
3. prove both without relying on books or faith, show documented evidence of both in film or in conversation with someone, no fishing rod spinning top out the window ufo pish. Thats the problem with nutjobs they think we are the nutjobs for not believing in their science with no facts, there is no end to your nonesense it is never debatedm at conventions you can say what the fuck you like, no-one will query it, why is it, is it because the person listening and the person making a claim both know in their minds hey are both talking shite, mate you should go to a dr who site or something, your daft mate tried it on with LG and got laughed at, just go before someone gives you the ethernets equivalent of a kick in the baws, even your videos look like those mad American evangenical videos, trumpets and glitter etc, your video looks like the fucking bee gees.
It’s the easiest thing in the world to make a claim, but as you say, ask for evidence and it’s all hearsay, faith, belief, blindspots, intransigence and refusal to accept actual evidence.

Faith is not a pathway to truth. It’s obscures truth. Truth should make you question faith, faith allows people to reject truth because it comforts them. I understand that as I grew up being conditioned to accept it. When I rejected it my mother wasn’t pleased and even as she was dying she wanted me to return. I told her I wouldn’t lie to her and couldn’t. One of the reasons I continue to not believe is I know if it were true she would have come back to haunt my arse back to Mass. if you had met her, you would know she would. :)
 

boab1916

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#34
It’s the easiest thing in the world to make a claim, but as you say, ask for evidence and it’s all hearsay, faith, belief, blindspots, intransigence and refusal to accept actual evidence.

Faith is not a pathway to truth. It’s obscures truth. Truth should make you question faith, faith allows people to reject truth because it comforts them. I understand that as I grew up being conditioned to accept it. When I rejected it my mother wasn’t pleased and even as she was dying she wanted me to return. I told her I wouldn’t lie to her and couldn’t. One of the reasons I continue to not believe is I know if it were true she would have come back to haunt my arse back to Mass. if you had met her, you would know she would. :)
 

Thai Tim

Active member
#35
Could any flat earth nut please let us know where the edge is? And explain the circular shadows on the moon? Or the seasons? Or how darkness falls at different times across the globe? Or how you can sail around the world without doing an about turn? Or how or why we would need satellites?

Thanks in advance. :)
The answer to ALL your questions plus much more is answered in this documentary which lasts over 6 hours here

Four stages of Flat Earth.jpg
 

boab1916

Well-known member
#39
Not sure if you understand science and design, but the instruments in their hands are required for their work same as the stone mason requires a set square and compass for building design, does not mean when you see someone with one at their work they are free masons.
Oh look that guy over there with the set square and compass, must be a mason. oh look Christopher Wren has designed a building and it is a faliac symbol its Saint Paul's cathedral, oh loook it has domes must be masonic.
 

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