TET
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this link could explain it better than me and is a little better than a masonic evolutionist title to get the catholic opinion.
https://catholicexchange.com/brief-exploration-catholic-position-evolution
All very admirable, TET.
When has the past EVER been addressed properly and where exactly?
Also, WTF has BBB got to do with the vast majority of Celtic supporters - in terms of actually giving a toss in terms of supporting Celtic.
Personal belief, most find it embarrassing and I include history scholars in my assumption (*Note Personal Belief)
That article is particular perspective. It proves zero. It is also that papers perspective on words written by someone else. If your knowledge of MSM hasn't proven to you to take their particular spin as factual then I rest my case.
God is spiritual?
Can science describe the mechanics of spirit?
Can science describe the mechanics of theoretical?
Can Science ever be more than building block on spiritual?
Does Science overrule the theory its built upon?
What came first science or theory?
If it was Science then theory is irrelevant.
If it was Theory then thats a proof of God.
Did the world begin when man got consciousness?
Did the world begins at big bang?
Did bIg bang really happen?
Are the people promoting Science as factual really trustworthy?
If humans are just evolved animals what gives humans the rights?
If natural law exists how does that get explained by science?
If there was no creation what was before the big bang?
Can science create life from base chemicals?
Does it need DNA to build upon?
What is DNA?
Where did that come from?
There are many many things that cannot ever be adequately describe sufficiently to a scientific level. But they exist. They apply to some code of order.
Evolution suggests that there is no order just concepts. So why would law of science or behaviour have any credence in a world that evolves?
Why does it have survival instinct?
What is nature if its not comparable to perfection whatever that is?
Why do certain things appeal; to certain minds?
The list is endless and leads to nowhere. Faith requires grace. And if you think Reason is manmade you won't ver get the concept of grace which far surpasses Reason without contradicting it. It perfects reason. And if evolution isn't heading towards perfection then what exactly is evolution moving towards?
The order of Heavenly glory far surpasses the order of grace which far surpasses the order of nature which had a beginning in chaos and is heading towards deeper self knowledge as well as deeper universal scientific knowledge.
If your reason is dimmed by self you will most likely reject grace as foolishness or a stumbling block. It would require a strong impulse of grace to correct faulty reason.
Thanks be to god for sending the way the truth and the life full of grace and truth. Evolution is masonic construct in my opinion. And its finality is anarchy nihilism and disorder and destruction. And they are just like the pied piper leading the children of god down the dark rabbit hole.
But like I said thats probably not compatible with your factual opinions. Im just a TET/
Anton you have your reasons but sometimes you sound like a mad ragin hun.
All very poetic and a theme of believers. When you have no evidence you appeal to things that cannot be checked. It’s grace, it’s a spiritual concept. It’s now a Masonic ideology, when Masonic requires a belief in a god. I don’t see how that fits, but crack on. Science means knowledge, simple as that. It is understanding the works around us and has taken us forward. It is not a creed. It is not set in stone. As new things emerge it changes. The books never change. Why is that? To believe without evidence other than to retreat into concepts of grace is an easy way out.
It is the responsibility of thisecmakung a claim to show proof for that claim. I couldn’t prove god doesn’t exist, but I couldn’t prove fairies don’t exist. The Spageheti minster diesnt exust, but if I claimed they did, then it would be up to me to show you my evidence that they do. With god, you can’t. You talk if things thstvare feelings, why woukdca god be so evasive? Why would he want to be interpreters in 10,000 ways. If there is only one and he created everything why did he get so much wrong about how he did it. Why did he say Adam and Eve were real when they obviously weren’t. They had two sons, explain how that led to humanity? Did Kane reproduce humanity with his mother?
So many things that we know aren’t true but for centuries accepted. That the earth was the centre of the universe. That at the end of times stars would fall to the earth. Suns falling to the earth? Really? That a great flood happened through a 900 year old man? That Kangeroos hopped to the Middle East? That the floods reached mountain peaks? That Moses and the Jews wandered in the desert for forty years. That the Israelis searched for archaeological evidence and found nothing?
Why so many untruths? Why could a god so magnificent and powerful not know the earth he created did not exist before there was light from the sun? On the third day he created light? The sun came first, how could a being who created that get it wrong?
Why was he so evil? Why did he want to kill everything? Why did he tell his people to kill everyone who didn’t believe. And a million more things that contradicts a loving god.
Or was it Bronze Age people writing what they thought? I think if you believe the Bible you have to accept it all. And we know it’s not how it was stated. So, we have to believe god forgot or it’s man made. How can such a being forget?
If god is a loving god and it wasn’t Bronze Age men who wrote the Bible, could anyone explain these directions from god? These are just a few contained within the book. He also endorses human slavery and sets out how to deal with your slaves.
Kill those who are not Christian or Jewish:
You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20
Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10
Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16
Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7
Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13
Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20
Imagine if you met a person who wanted people to do this today. Would you think they were loving? Just?
Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11
Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him. Jude 5
The old if you don’t agree with someone they are a raging hun? Jesus H that’s a low blow Maria. Why do people resort to that ploy? You said earlier you accepted that our support are a diverse bunch and gave different views, then you suggest he may be a hun? Are you saying I am also a hun? Because I don’t see the world like you do? Isn’t that arrogance and unfair?
You forget that the book about God inspired by God was written by men who are not God. They are describing their version of the message God gave them.
Now imagine you could understand dogs exact thoughts. And the dog tried to put into dog language the instructions you gave the dog. It may be exactly what the dog thought you meant. But that in itself may not exactly convey the message you gave to the dog.
If you can imagine perfection becoming a man with limitations of man but mind of god would it be any different to mind of man living in dog with nature of dog but mind of man. Would the dog/man run around sniffing jobbies since it seems to be part of dog nature?
You don't get the book. Why reference it? Does everything get filtered down to your understanding before it becomes factual.
If god is a loving god and it wasn’t Bronze Age men who wrote the Bible, could anyone explain these directions from god? These are just a few contained within the book. He also endorses human slavery and sets out how to deal with your slaves.
Kill those who are not Christian or Jewish:
You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20
Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10
Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16
Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7
Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13
Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20
Imagine if you met a person who wanted people to do this today. Would you think they were loving? Just?
Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11
Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him. Jude 5
If god is a loving god and it wasn’t Bronze Age men who wrote the Bible, could anyone explain these directions from god? These are just a few contained within the book. He also endorses human slavery and sets out how to deal with your slaves.
Kill those who are not Christian or Jewish:
You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20
Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10
Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16
Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7
Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13
Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20
Imagine if you met a person who wanted people to do this today. Would you think they were loving? Just?
Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11
Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him. Jude 5
Let it go ffs. This thread is ridiculous. Your all sounding like a rage machine over songs.
Think there is mire in life to be ragin at
And yes i do think its getting animated on big bad celtic fans singing the odd song.
If you want to crucify songs that are really fuqin offensive take a slide over to fester fester but jeez give the rest of us a break.
Yes and we all know your view’s you have told us over n over n over again.
Its like you keep on arguing with us till we convert to your opinions.
Accept its not gonna happen and i respect you are different from me.
Im just sick listening to you all banging on and on.
Trying to wear us down. Like huns do.
So if the cap fits n all that jazz
“IF God” as a roman catholic i find that offensive.
But i wont start a thread to convert you into a believer. ??
Show me anywhere in the Bible god says he is a Roman Catholic. I never said god was RC and neither did he. Read the book. And I was brought up RC.
A thought you were leaving it there?
No?
Show me where i said God is RC. My goodness get a grip of yoursel.
You sound a wee bit mental.
I will leave it there with yourself.
Cheerio
“IF God” as a roman catholic i find that offensive.
You brought it up. I responded. So now I’m mental as well as a hun because you don’t agree with me?
And you don’t think that’s mental? Cheerio
OMG.
As a believer in God i find it offensive when you say IF GOD like he doesn’t exist and im stupid for believing in him.
I as a rc find it offensive being a believer.
Jog on and cheerio
Succinctly put.Let it go ffs. This thread is ridiculous. Your all sounding like a rage machine over songs.
Think there is mire in life to be ragin at
And yes i do think its getting animated on big bad celtic fans singing the odd song.
If you want to crucify songs that are really fuqin offensive take a slide over to fester fester but jeez give the rest of us a break.
Yes and we all know your view’s you have told us over n over n over again.
Its like you keep on arguing with us till we convert to your opinions.
Accept its not gonna happen and i respect you are different from me.
Im just sick listening to you all banging on and on.
Trying to wear us down. Like huns do.
So if the cap fits n all that jazz
I never said you were stupid at all. Most people used to believe you don’t get more intelligent or dafter.
You do get angry if you still believe and someone doesn’t. That’s a feature.
I’m puttibg my trainers on. You do the same.
You are crazy you know that im not angry at all. I respect your right not to believe.
I was drawing comparisons between we are all diff and thats okay
You wont change me on some issues and i have no inclination to change you.
Banging on about the same stuff over n over when the opinion of yourself and i, have clearly been made already, just gets weary.
I accept your opinion you do not have to accept mine just stop banging on about it.
Its all good.