Hibs v Celtic - Match Thread, all comments here

green sprig

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Get the defence sorted out, it is the main source of our problems. Bitton is not a center back and as much as I like some of Frimpongs attacking qualities he is suspect defensively.
Despite some legitimate criticism of Julien, he has been badly missed. And in defence of the management team diYour right LC20 d anyone really forsee Duffy being as poor as he has been?
The loss of Forrest has also been felt, his contribution and attacking assists have been crucial. Hopefully he comes back soon and can rediscover his best form.
What is going on with Griffiths who knows but he absolutely has to be the starting striker. Brown needs to start also, surely he's not done yet?

We have the players and it will turn around!
Your right LC20, I thought big Duffy was the new Baldy I have been looking for for the last 11 years.

HH.
 

AllyBhoy

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The most damning

I understand everything you are saying Winter and you are certainly entitled to your opinion the same as the rest of us.
I have never been a Lenny fan so it is easier for me to voice my opinion on him,but I dont lay the whole blame at Lenny,s door,there is a bigger culprit than Lenny who keeps hiding and refusing to read documents when the shit hits the fan,but the sad bit about Lawwell as we all know,he will be there when Lenny is long gone.
Right now Winter Lenny is looking for people like yourself who still believe in the wee man but I think yesterday was a very bad day for him,so bad and so damning the silence from big Sutton is deafening,now is the time his pal needs him more than ever but I think even big Sutton thinks it is time for Lenny to move on..
I agree with what you say Winter about the season not being over but if we keep the same shape,same staff,keep performing like we have been it definitely wont be long until it is well over..
We all know some big dressing room names have seriously let him down,but at the same time Winter the wee man has not sorted the dressing room problem,he has not sorted our centre back problem,our goal keeper problem,I know it sounds like I am castigating Lenny for all that is wrong with our club just now but this is his job to fix the problems I have mentioned,he has not done that so far,so how far do we let him go ??? until it is so badly broken that it cannot be fixed or do we get somebody in now who the supporters believe can fix the problems..right now Winter I dont think there are too many of us have faith in Lenny fixing us,,but as I said at the start of this post...It is only my opinion and on this occassion Winter I would love to be proved wrong again..

Lennon needs a backroom team who will question his tactics and on going play management. Kennedy imo been there far too long, Lawwells guy forced on Lennon when he took the job. New backroom team needed. Lennon must be allowed to chose his own coaches. He ultimately is the one that works every day with them not Lawwells. ☘️☘️
 

green sprig

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incredibleadamspark 22nd November 2020 at 13:15



UEFA has suspended FFP for the 2020 season and will combine 2020 and 2021 in their next financial assessments. Here is a Guardian article about it from July.



”Owners of top clubs will temporarily be permitted by Uefa’s financial fair play rules to put more money into their clubs, to cover increased losses caused by football’s shutdown due to the Covid-19 pandemic.



Uefa announced a series of “emergency measures” to acknowledge that clubs competing in the Champions League and Europa League, who must comply with FFP “break-even” limits, cannot do so this season because of drastic losses caused by the shutdown.



The principles accept that clubs can make losses greater than the permitted €30m over a rolling three-year period, and that owners can cover those losses. Uefa stressed, however, that it was still committed to encouraging good financial management by clubs, and the measures were aimed only at “neutralising the adverse effects of the pandemic”: lost ticket income while matches are played behind closed doors, and the potentially major loss of some TV, commercial and sponsorship income.



The current rules, intended to encourage clubs to live within the money they make and not pay excessive wages to players, limit clubs’ maximum losses to €30m over a three-year period, as long as €25m of that loss is covered by an owner. The new measures state that the current 2020 financial year will not be assessed at all under FFP procedures, and will instead be rolled up into 2021, and the two years assessed together as a single financial period.



Uefa sources confirmed that clubs would be allowed losses in excess of €30m as long as they show this was caused by falls in revenues because of the shutdown. Clubs will be able to cope with their own increased losses however they responsibly can, including by owners putting money in, either in loans or shares. Uefa said these emergency measures were intended to “give clubs more time to quantify and account for unanticipated loss of revenues”.



The umbrella organisation Football Supporters Europe, which comprises Uefa-recognised fans’ groups across the continent including in Britain, has called for supporters to be fully engaged in processes for financial and governance reform after the crisis. Describing football’s structures as “flawed, unfair and unsustainable”, FSE said: “There can be no ‘return to normal’.”



The FSE statement, signed by England’s Football Supporters’ Association, Supporters Direct Scotland and other groups from across Europe, described fans as “the lifeblood of the game” and objected to artificial crowd noise played by broadcasters over matches behind closed doors.

“Empty stadia are a direct consequence of a public health crisis that has impacted every single one of us, and the absence of fans cannot be compensated for by a computer simulation aimed at the amusement of television audiences,” the statement said.
I wonder boab if Desmond is listening ???.

HH.
 

Vigobhoy

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Have read a lot of how we should sack lenny I'm not in that group , yet. We win those games in hand it's a 5 pt difference that's hardly league over. I've not seen the whole game just the highlights but I'd agree that the players were slow to react and broony god only knows what he was thinking. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion mine is that at not even quarter way through the season I see many giving up already , I'm not and will never give up to them where mathematically we can still win it. The Celtic stars piece on Celtic gossip was a good piece. Who's to say that bringing in a manager at this stage will make us better? Could have the opposite effect. We salvaged a point at a ground weve failed to win at for years. Still won the league though. Is 5 pts behind reason to sack lenny? I dont think so. If we fall further behind then it has to be considered . Right now I dont think it's the right way to go. My opinion I'm entitled to it. I am saddened this morning to read the venomous bile aimed at lenny. This is exactly what the enemy wants I wont give it to them. One things certain if we dont all pull in the same direction it wont get better. We will win the games in hand and it will be back to 5 and they will drop points of that I'm positive. While he is the manager he needs our support not a lynching for who does that help? Not us HH ☘
Well said Winter
 

Vigobhoy

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You got your points across very well Vigobhoy. Agree with most of it. Lennon at fault for not making sure they are fit and raring to go. Maybe the backroom team have given up on some of them. Griff is a strange one he should be starting yet he is only getting cameo parts here and there. My point would be that the teams has given up on Lennon. He shouldn't have came back to the club. HH ☘️☘️
Sorry I am not in the 'sack Lenny' camp. I'm with Docco and Winter
 

AllyBhoy

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Sorry I am not in the 'sack Lenny' camp. I'm with Docco and Winter
No need for Sorry Vigobhoy. I like Lennon but my point was he's needing help and at this moment in time he's not getting any. Wrong backroom staff, Lennon should have made it clear to the board that he would not accept their interference in team matters. He should have brought his own staff with him. That way I'm sure the team would be top of the league and we all would be saying how great Lennon is. But it's still not too late. Get help and then we will see the difference. ☘️☘️
 

Smelltheglove

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No need for Sorry Vigobhoy. I like Lennon but my point was he's needing help and at this moment in time he's not getting any. Wrong backroom staff, Lennon should have made it clear to the board that he would not accept their interference in team matters. He should have brought his own staff with him. That way I'm sure the team would be top of the league and we all would be saying how great Lennon is. But it's still not too late. Get help and then we will see the difference. ☘️☘️
They kept what staff the snake never took for continuity and it worked for that season
Thats how that all worked out the way it did
 

Tony Soprano

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No need for Sorry Vigobhoy. I like Lennon but my point was he's needing help and at this moment in time he's not getting any. Wrong backroom staff, Lennon should have made it clear to the board that he would not accept their interference in team matters. He should have brought his own staff with him. That way I'm sure the team would be top of the league and we all would be saying how great Lennon is. But it's still not too late. Get help and then we will see the difference. ☘️☘️
Wonder how many more dropped points he'll be allowed before he's bagged.Keep hearing about the huns arses collapsing but that doesnt look like happening at the moment.As much as i like Lennon going from a Rodgers to Lenny was a backward step,night n day as coaches and Rodgers probably a better man manager id imagine.All i hear from Lenny when he speakes is excuses.
 

boab1916

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I just think we are playing too many games and cannot get the consistence we need. Our players ARE fit but if you ask the same core of players to play in 29 games by early November ( Calum McGregor) you are asking for trouble.
For the record Tierney and McGregor played more games under BR for club and country and for all the times he wiped the floor with the huns he could not get a result at Easter Road.
 

boab1916

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Thu, 26th NovSparta PragueUEFA Europa League17:55A
Sun, 29th NovRoss CountyBetfred Cup14:00H

December 2020​


Thu, 3rd DecAC MilanUEFA Europa League17:55A
Sun, 6th DecSt JohnstoneScottish Premiership15:00H
Thu, 10th DecLille OSCUEFA Europa League20:00H
Sun, 13th DecKilmarnockScottish Premiership15:00H
Sun, 20th DecLivingstonScottish Premiership12:00A
Wed, 23rd DecRoss CountyScottish Premiership19:45H
Sat, 26th DecHamiltonScottish Premiership15:00A
Wed, 30th DecDundee UtdScottish Premiership19:45H

January 2021​


Sat, 2nd JanRangersScottish Premiership12:30A
Sat, 9th JanHibernianScottish Premiership15:00H
Sat, 16th JanLivingstonScottish Premiership15:00H
Sat, 23rd JanSt MirrenScottish Premiership15:00A
Wed, 27th JanHamiltonScottish Premiership19:45H

February 2021​


Wed, 3rd FebKilmarnockScottish Premiership19:45A
Sat, 6th FebMotherwellScottish Premiership15:00H
Sat, 13th FebSt JohnstoneScottish Premiership15:00A
 

Winter

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The most damning

I understand everything you are saying Winter and you are certainly entitled to your opinion the same as the rest of us.
I have never been a Lenny fan so it is easier for me to voice my opinion on him,but I dont lay the whole blame at Lenny,s door,there is a bigger culprit than Lenny who keeps hiding and refusing to read documents when the shit hits the fan,but the sad bit about Lawwell as we all know,he will be there when Lenny is long gone.
Right now Winter Lenny is looking for people like yourself who still believe in the wee man but I think yesterday was a very bad day for him,so bad and so damning the silence from big Sutton is deafening,now is the time his pal needs him more than ever but I think even big Sutton thinks it is time for Lenny to move on..
I agree with what you say Winter about the season not being over but if we keep the same shape,same staff,keep performing like we have been it definitely wont be long until it is well over..
We all know some big dressing room names have seriously let him down,but at the same time Winter the wee man has not sorted the dressing room problem,he has not sorted our centre back problem,our goal keeper problem,I know it sounds like I am castigating Lenny for all that is wrong with our club just now but this is his job to fix the problems I have mentioned,he has not done that so far,so how far do we let him go ??? until it is so badly broken that it cannot be fixed or do we get somebody in now who the supporters believe can fix the problems..right now Winter I dont think there are too many of us have faith in Lenny fixing us,,but as I said at the start of this post...It is only my opinion and on this occassion Winter I would love to be proved wrong again..

HH.
Great post green sprig, I also wasn't for lenny getting the post beyond the triple treble , I thought that it was asking a lot of a man whose already given everything he had and he gave it. I hear what you say about dressing room problems but I've yet to see a worthy piece on this for me to believe that beyond the team are under pressure and the manager isnt happy. I've been unhappy with his selections but I hope and I believe that this can be a change for us. I'm glass half full and I dont think weve seen the best of us after 13 games of a 38 game season.i think weve yet to see them under pressure and that will happen. I hear a lot about managers replacing or helping him but I'm certain he has the ear of WGS and mon anyway. Everyone is disappointed with the result , performance and past ones as well. We are looking for a response it's not beyond us far from it , a decent euro performance followed by ross county and lifting the cup can turn everyone's mood I think it's too early and we shouldn't panic that was Rodgers plan always we the supporters backed him .
 

Winter

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Thu, 26th NovSparta PragueUEFA Europa League17:55A
Sun, 29th NovRoss CountyBetfred Cup14:00H

December 2020​


Thu, 3rd DecAC MilanUEFA Europa League17:55A
Sun, 6th DecSt JohnstoneScottish Premiership15:00H
Thu, 10th DecLille OSCUEFA Europa League20:00H
Sun, 13th DecKilmarnockScottish Premiership15:00H
Sun, 20th DecLivingstonScottish Premiership12:00A
Wed, 23rd DecRoss CountyScottish Premiership19:45H
Sat, 26th DecHamiltonScottish Premiership15:00A
Wed, 30th DecDundee UtdScottish Premiership19:45H

January 2021​


Sat, 2nd JanRangersScottish Premiership12:30A
Sat, 9th JanHibernianScottish Premiership15:00H
Sat, 16th JanLivingstonScottish Premiership15:00H
Sat, 23rd JanSt MirrenScottish Premiership15:00A
Wed, 27th JanHamiltonScottish Premiership19:45H

February 2021​


Wed, 3rd FebKilmarnockScottish Premiership19:45A
Sat, 6th FebMotherwellScottish Premiership15:00H
Sat, 13th FebSt JohnstoneScottish Premiership15:00A
Hearts game
 

Jimmy'J

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McGuinness yes, Gallagher no. The two of them wouldn't work together anyway; considerable animosity there that there is no reason to go into.
Gallagher played in the West Ham youth team as a center half with Lampard and John Terry before he broke his leg.
Anyhow be no harm to draft in McGuinness for the psychology point of view to get this team over there inferiority complex they suffer from at the minute.
 
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