How Come?

BILLCOWIE1958 said:
How come SEVCO take every opportunity to question every dodgy decision against them whether legitimate or otherwise? And in doing so appear to get what they want (as is seen by the Wee Wully Collum scenario)

How come their PR gurus release press statements full of crap or otherwise promoting their Club and playing their 'Hard Done By'' card?

How Come SEVCO seem to be getting their transfer business started more or less as the transfer window opens despite being millions in debt and without a pot to piss in?

How Come Celtic take EVERYTHING that effects them negatively sitting down keeping their mouths shut as not to offend anyone?

How Come Celtic bicker and haggle over the cost of new signing targets despite sitting with almost £30 million in the Bank

How Come Celtic meekly accepted SEVCO's allocation of 750 tickets for the last Glasgow Derby at IBROKES like good little bhoys doing what they are told?

Because SEVCO despite how much I despise the bastarts are looking after NUMBER 1
Self Interest is their watch phrase They care about NOBODY else and they take EVERY advantage big or small legal or illegal to ensure that they get a more than fair outcome of what they want They work on the principle that the 'more shit you throw at a wall the more sticks to it'

Celtic on the other hand sit there quite happily cosily counting their millions taking enormous bonuses selling our prize assets when there is no time to replace them or are so fucking miserable in their negotiations that they lose players who have been Celtic Fans all of their lives and were desperate to sign for us

Celtic just sit and take all the crap in order not to offend anybody There are rules to be followed They are there in black and white
The only thing is that not everyone is playing by those rules and I for one am totally scunnered pissed off and wondering why the fuck I an getting so thoroughly irate about it all when there are those at Parkheid earning FORTUNES and don"t seem to be giving a rat's arse about what is happening to our Club

Anyone who wants to call me out over this rant whether it's for not fully backing the Club The Board and Team or using bad language (that's a belter) Well go right ahead and call me out I'm past fucking caring in much the same way as the Celtic Board appear to be

With our advantage in Finance Players Manager and Momentum we should not merely be top of the league on goal difference with a fuckin' game in hand
We should have BURIED these bastarts and the Kilmarnock the Aberdeens and Uncle Tom Cobly and All

Enough is enough

If we lose this league or don't do 10 IAR we'll be the fuckin' laughing stock

We got into last 32 of Europa League let's face it basically by default We have to rely on minnows to do us turns when CLOWNS on our own team gift goals to opponents who are already playing us off the park and leave us chasing shadows It's becoming an embarassment!!

No doubt some on here will say I'm going overboard Too far
Well if you think so you're entitled to your opinions but I'll ask you this

WHEN is the right time to begin revolting against a regime who appear to be following the same principles as the Whites and the Kellys from yesteryear?

When we don't manage 8 IAR never mind 10?

When we don't manage to sign identified targets because of meanness? Supply and demand Market Values You don't need to be Adam fuckin' Smith to understand basic economics

And as an aside I read that Scott Allen could be off back to Hibs and Celtic say that they won't be difficult to deal with! WITH HIBS!!!

I almost soiled myself when I read that

After the McGinn debacle I wouldn't give Petrie the steam off my pish

If anyone else came in for Allen I"d make sure he went elsewhere Even if it was for less money

We are a famous 131 year old Institution known all around the world with a fan base from all around the world and the Board are allowing the Club and by association the supporters to be treated as non entities

Well what I say to the Board is this

If you cannot manage our Club in an appropriate manner A manner in which a Club like Celtic ought to be run and help us accomplish what we should be achieving then 'Get to Fuck' and let people who have balls take over and let them have a go because I'm starting to get rather nervous about the intentions of our current Board and the direction it intends to steer our Club

Here's a thing

I'd LOVE a member of Celtic's Board or management to respond to this but I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen

HH?
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For a start I don’t think as a club we can control what sevco do,your better off contacting them.I think Celtic’s stance is to keep things in house and as low key as possible because they know the bad press they get.I agree with you 100% on the transfer policy,it’s terrible and relays bad press.As for the ticket allocation for castle greyscull,I’m not sure there was much more the club could have done.They did do the same back and I reckon that’s all they could have done.The signings they’ve made are two players who won’t cost a signing on fee although they will require wages but they’ve not kicked a ball for just about all season and maybe longer.As for getting to the last 32 of the Europa,well we got there because we got more points than Leipzig,not by default.You do make a lot of good points but I’ve pointed out before about being disillusioned and our transfer policy is the main cause of this.We had a great chance to move forward in August and never done it,instead we’ve moved back and we’ll go further back if we don’t win the league.HH
 
stubhoy77 said:
For a start I don’t think as a club we can control what sevco do,your better off contacting them.I think Celtic’s stance is to keep things in house and as low key as possible because they know the bad press they get.I agree with you 100% on the transfer policy,it’s terrible and relays bad press.As for the ticket allocation for castle greyscull,I’m not sure there was much more the club could have done.They did do the same back and I reckon that’s all they could have done.The signings they’ve made are two players who won’t cost a signing on fee although they will require wages but they’ve not kicked a ball for just about all season and maybe longer.As for getting to the last 32 of the Europa,well we got there because we got more points than Leipzig,not by default.You do make a lot of good points but I’ve pointed out before about being disillusioned and our transfer policy is the main cause of this.We had a great chance to move forward in August and never done it,instead we’ve moved back and we’ll go further back if we don’t win the league.HH
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Of course our Club can't control what SEVCO do but in MY world you fight fire with fire
By standing up for ourselves we MAY get bad press but since we'll be getting bad press for our signing policy anyway then :what the fuck'? As the adage goes ' There is no such thing as bad publicity' Especially when we are in the right


If SEVCO are the only ones shouting then they will be the only ones being heard and being listened to

As for dealing with the ticket allocation we should have told SEVCO ' Either retain the Status Quo or We give you NO tickets for Parkhead'
End of Don't pander to these bastarts and rather than hearing how SEVCO instigated the move to accommodate their own fans you'd have heard how Celtic trumped SEVCO in the one upmanship stakes
SEVCO's original move was crying out for a response and matching it showed no imagination by Celtic
As I said many times before We should have just accepted the 750 tickets not distributed them and sent them back by post on the day of the match thaluus denying SEVCO the income of almost £40000 and will have COST them money for building segregation fences outside the ground and extra policing

For the next Glasgow Derby we should take the initiative and deny them ANY ticket allocation whatsoever
I believe the rules say that the visiting support are entitled to a certain amount of tickets but not all Clubs abide by the rules do they? Murray already set the precident when they were Rangers back in 1994

My point about reaching the last 32 of Europa League I believe was valid

We had it in our own hands to qualify in the final match and if Gordon hadn't made such a basic schoolboy howler we would have done as the 1-1 dram at home to Salzburg would have been adequate As it was we had to rely on minnows to do the job for us That is why I said we qualified by default
Can you say that you were thrilled by the football we played overall in the 6 matches we played in the Group Stages of the Tournament? 2 wins by an odd goal at home and an away 1 goal win compared with the toothless doings we got in Salzburg and Leipzig and being played off the park against Salzburg at home Even at Parkhead Leipzig deserved more and it was good fortune on our part that they didn't get more out of that natch

As for SEVCO signing 2 players who won't cost a signing on fee and haven't kicked a ball since who knows when look back at your opening sentence in your response quote 'FOR A START AS A CLUB I DON"T THINK WE CAN CONTROL WHAT SEVCO DO' You are correct but what we can do is get our own house in order and from what I can see .... That's not happening

And as a parting note If we don't win the League then bad publicity' will be the least of Celtic Board's worries and concerns
They'll have 50 odd thousand ST Holders baying for blood since it will be bad management negligence and lack of foresight coupled with a false sense of frugality that let it happen

Can you imagine if SEVCO won the League? Qualified for CL Group Stages Got £30 million plus in CL revenue

If they can give us a run for our money when they are under a mountain of debt with no line of credit and without a pot to piss in what will it be like when they have millions flowing in?
It's obviius to a blind Man going up a hill on a 1 legged donkey that they will do a Viv Nicholson and once they are in the ascendancy they won't take their boot off of our throats unlike our Board who are blasé don't take the warning signs seriously and capitulate to avoid confrontation

HH?
 
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commodore64 said:
What drug are you taking john?
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Hallucination inducing ones I'd bet

'We don't mind that our players are assaulted on the pitch without repercussion as long as you tell us why you allow it oh and if you don't mind can you go into depth with your response please If it isn't too much trouble because we don't want to put you out or inconvenience you in any way Especially at this time of year'

That sounds about right

HH?
 
BILLCOWIE1958 said:
As for SEVCO signing 2 players who won't cost a signing on fee and haven't kicked a ball since who knows when look back at your opening sentence in your response quote 'FOR A START AS A CLUB I DON"T THINK WE CAN CONTROL WHAT SEVCO DO' You are correct but what we can do is get our own house in order and from what I can see .... That's not happening
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We are literally 5 days into the transfer window. Rangers have signed two players on the bad side of 30 - I don’t think it’s quite panic stations yet.

Why should we rush out and buy someone from the off just because of their signings? I’d rather take some time to get it right, make sure we don’t waste like we have previously.

Wait and see what we do before deciding we’re sitting back and letting it slip.
 
TheGreatOne said:
We are literally 5 days into the transfer window. Rangers have signed two players on the bad side of 30 - I don’t think it’s quite panic stations yet.

Why should we rush out and buy someone from the off just because of their signings? I’d rather take some time to get it right, make sure we don’t waste like we have previously.

Wait and see what we do before deciding we’re sitting back and letting it slip.
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Well if past performance is anything to go by I'm not overly impressed by what I'm seeing

BR wants new signings in so they can travel to Dubai and get bedded in Can't see that happening

HH?
 
BILLCOWIE1958 said:
Well if past performance is anything to go by I'm not overly impressed by what I'm seeing

BR wants new signings in so they can travel to Dubai and get bedded in Can't see that happening

HH?
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But bear in mind BR doesn’t have the best record of player recruitment so having them in earlier wouldn’t raise my confidence levels much.

Plus, more importantly, as BR himself has said he has to cut out so much deadwood before more come in.

We need someone to take the Comppers of our team first before we will see any real movement.
 
TheGreatOne said:
But bear in mind BR doesn’t have the best record of player recruitment so having them in earlier wouldn’t raise my confidence levels much.

Plus, more importantly, as BR himself has said he has to cut out so much deadwood before more come in.

We need someone to take the Comppers of our team first before we will see any real movement.
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So if we don't get rid of players we can't sign any? ?

Good luck with that one!!

We already got shot of Dembele with no replacement coming in

HH?
 
BILLCOWIE1958 said:
So if we don't get rid of players we can't sign any? ?

Good luck with that one!!

We already got shot of Dembele with no replacement coming in

HH?
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Not exactly what I said.

Don’t you remember BR saying himself he needs to cut out a lot of deadwood?

My point is, until we clear our some, we aren’t going to be going and spending silly money that some people are demanding to negate two over 30 signings they made.
 
TheGreatOne said:
Not exactly what I said.

Don’t you remember BR saying himself he needs to cut out a lot of deadwood?

My point is, until we clear our some, we aren’t going to be going and spending silly money that some people are demanding to negate two over 30 signings they made.
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But we've already got rid of Dembele bringing in £19.7 million and leaving is with only 2 1st team strikers 1 of whom is out of action indefinitely so it's been known since August that we need AT LEAST 1 more striker and now possibly 2

We knew that BEFORE they signed 2 over 30 players so that is NOT to negate whatever they have done and by association dilutes your argument that it does

BR did say that we need to get rid of no users but at least 1 striker is imperative no matter what and clearing out players or otherwise Celtic aren't going to spend SILLY MONEY as you put it on any player

It"s not the Celtic way of doing things

HH?
 
Lubos left peg said:
PL: c'mon to fuck Ian. He's no even tried to hide the fact he's a hun (points to beaton) he went to the crown after the game...have a word!!!

IM: I know Peter...to be fair you'se were pish and you deserved to lose anyway.

PL: I know that..but now I've got fan groups breathing down my neck cos it so fucking obvious. Fuck sake John...could you no have at least booked morelos??

JB: couldn't Pete. Told Billy down the crown to stick on the bookies that he wouldn't be booked....brilliant odds.

IM: Listen Pete. I spoke to Mr King. He needs this title or sevco are going down the pan. If that happens Celtic are fucked. Regan went through all this with me before he left...remember?? We need a strong Rangers. That's why you signed that agreement. Wasn't it?

PL: Aye I know. But Fuck sake. Don't make it so obvious please?

IM: Stick out a statement saying we had constructive talks. John, well done by the way, we will give you some smaller games to officiate. In a few weeks it will blow over...job done.

JB: Sorted....can I go now?? Got a lodge meeting at 4..

PL: Well it better...or I might need to spend some money and sign somecunt to appease these pleb fans!!!! Wait there John...I'll drop you off. I've got to have a word with the grand master anyway....
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How did you get a hold of that tape recording? It was supposed to be kept in house...
 
BILLCOWIE1958 said:
But we've already got rid of Dembele bringing in £19.7 million and leaving is with only 2 1st team strikers 1 of whom is out of action indefinitely so it's been known since August that we need AT LEAST 1 more striker and now possibly 2

We knew that BEFORE they signed 2 over 30 players so that is NOT to negate whatever they have done and by association dilutes your argument that it does

BR did say that we need to get rid of no users but at least 1 striker is imperative no matter what and clearing out players or otherwise Celtic aren't going to spend SILLY MONEY as you put it on any player

It"s not the Celtic way of doing things

HH?
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Literally two strikers are the first thing we are looking at, are they not?

It’s frustrating it has taken so long and on the Dembele point, you’re right - that should have been done sooner. I think it’s became more of an issue with Eddy being inconsistent and Leigh’s current issues. I don’t know the inner workings 100% so I’m looking at it from the fact, we are now and we have to go forward being positive about that.
 
TheGreatOne said:
Literally two strikers are the first thing we are looking at, are they not?

It’s frustrating it has taken so long and on the Dembele point, you’re right - that should have been done sooner. I think it’s became more of an issue with Eddy being inconsistent and Leigh’s current issues. I don’t know the inner workings 100% so I’m looking at it from the fact, we are now and we have to go forward being positive about that.
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And what I said is that we MUST bring in at least 1 striker probably 2 whether we get shot of deadwood or otherwise so just get it done Stop pinching around making cut price offers

Look what happened with McGinn

HH?
 
BILLCOWIE1958 said:
And what I said is that we MUST bring in at least 1 striker probably 2 whether we get shot of deadwood or otherwise so just get it done Stop pinching around making cut price offers

Look what happened with McGinn

HH?
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Looks like I’ve mis-taken your original post then, apologies for that!

Seen so many folk expecting us to go and fire in 9m bids for players as if it should be the norm which has been driving me mental.
 
michael duffy said:
hahaha! ma stents are vibratin! and washed ma statins n'stuff doon wi a can of stella! stay mellow mate Hail Hail!!:LOL:
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my pacemaker went into overdrive when I read it ,good on you, a lot of our supporters mirrow you're feeling don't hold your breath to long we need you fit and healthy.are you any good at inside right
 
We don’t know what’s been offered or turned down in any of these proposed transfer deals As a support we criticise the gutter press for being against us but then lap up all the dodgy stories they print about these transfer dealings Why do we believe all thi rubbish with no evidence ?
 
BILLCOWIE1958 said:
Of course our Club can't control what SEVCO do but in MY world you fight fire with fire
By standing up for ourselves we MAY get bad press but since we'll be getting bad press for our signing policy anyway then :what the fuck'? As the adage goes ' There is no such thing as bad publicity' Especially when we are in the right


If SEVCO are the only ones shouting then they will be the only ones being heard and being listened to

As for dealing with the ticket allocation we should have told SEVCO ' Either retain the Status Quo or We give you NO tickets for Parkhead'
End of Don't pander to these bastarts and rather than hearing how SEVCO instigated the move to accommodate their own fans you'd have heard how Celtic trumped SEVCO in the one upmanship stakes
SEVCO's original move was crying out for a response and matching it showed no imagination by Celtic
As I said many times before We should have just accepted the 750 tickets not distributed them and sent them back by post on the day of the match thaluus denying SEVCO the income of almost £40000 and will have COST them money for building segregation fences outside the ground and extra policing

For the next Glasgow Derby we should take the initiative and deny them ANY ticket allocation whatsoever
I believe the rules say that the visiting support are entitled to a certain amount of tickets but not all Clubs abide by the rules do they? Murray already set the precident when they were Rangers back in 1994

My point about reaching the last 32 of Europa League I believe was valid

We had it in our own hands to qualify in the final match and if Gordon hadn't made such a basic schoolboy howler we would have done as the 1-1 dram at home to Salzburg would have been adequate As it was we had to rely on minnows to do the job for us That is why I said we qualified by default
Can you say that you were thrilled by the football we played overall in the 6 matches we played in the Group Stages of the Tournament? 2 wins by an odd goal at home and an away 1 goal win compared with the toothless doings we got in Salzburg and Leipzig and being played off the park against Salzburg at home Even at Parkhead Leipzig deserved more and it was good fortune on our part that they didn't get more out of that natch

As for SEVCO signing 2 players who won't cost a signing on fee and haven't kicked a ball since who knows when look back at your opening sentence in your response quote 'FOR A START AS A CLUB I DON"T THINK WE CAN CONTROL WHAT SEVCO DO' You are correct but what we can do is get our own house in order and from what I can see .... That's not happening

And as a parting note If we don't win the League then bad publicity' will be the least of Celtic Board's worries and concerns
They'll have 50 odd thousand ST Holders baying for blood since it will be bad management negligence and lack of foresight coupled with a false sense of frugality that let it happen

Can you imagine if SEVCO won the League? Qualified for CL Group Stages Got £30 million plus in CL revenue

If they can give us a run for our money when they are under a mountain of debt with no line of credit and without a pot to piss in what will it be like when they have millions flowing in?
It's obviius to a blind Man going up a hill on a 1 legged donkey that they will do a Viv Nicholson and once they are in the ascendancy they won't take their boot off of our throats unlike our Board who are blasé don't take the warning signs seriously and capitulate to avoid confrontation

HH?
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There’s no way Celtic could take tickets from sevco and not distribute them then send them back,it sounds good but in this day and age it wouldn’t be kept quiet.I’m not so sure there would be 50 odd thousand season ticket holders baying for blood if we lost the league.They would obviously be unhappy but they’d continue to buy they’re season tickets or if they didn’t,like you says before there would be loads of other people ready to take they’re tickets.One of the reasons the board got BR was because season ticket sales were dwindling,that’s the best way to protest.After the disappointment of the last transfer window my protest was not taking my Europa league tickets but this requires more people to do it for it to be effective.I know it’s not the best thing for the team short term but long term it could be.If this window ends up a disaster the Valencia game should be boycotted.HH
 
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