How many seats should there be at Celtic Park?

Also, this ticket exchange system or lack thereof is a complete joke.
I'm beginning to think there is none because having one will show the need for a new stand is more necessary than previously believed and is a matter of urgency.
Is this the real unspoken reason for them refusing to introduce the desperately needed ticket exchange system? Everything about it screams out that it makes sense to introduce it from every conceivable angle. Fans who cannot make it recoup a portion of the ticket fee, fans who otherwise could not get to see live games get a chance to go to Parkhead, there will be more fans able to cheer on the team and the operations will get more income.

Empty seats do not spend any money various an ad-hoc visitor who only gets occasionally will tend to visit the club Superstore to splash out on merchandise and also don't fully appreciate how crap the food offerings can be and so will but cardboard pizzas, dried out dogmeat burgers or some of the other culinary delicacies and over-priced drinks on offer.

Why would any business deliberately turn their nose up at extra revenue with a scheme that would be at worst, financially neutral? There would undoubtedly be an admin fee factored in to every transaction, so this would at least cover the costs to the club, if not run at a profit!

But at this time, the board can insist that there is no need to increase the capacity as you just have to look at all of the empty seats at every home game. This is despite them already been paid for and a waiting list for season tickets said to be about 10,000 fans (I might be well out of date on this approximate figure).

Maybe it is because doing the long overdue upgrade of the stadium is such a huge expense that will significantly eat into profits, which in turn affects annual financials, which in turn affects the bonuses of the very people refusing to contemplate this obvious option. So by kicking the can down the road means these already highly rewarded employees can receive even more from the club rather than us investing this money to improve the club for the future.
 
Is this the real unspoken reason for them refusing to introduce the desperately needed ticket exchange system? Everything about it screams out that it makes sense to introduce it from every conceivable angle. Fans who cannot make it recoup a portion of the ticket fee, fans who otherwise could not get to see live games get a chance to go to Parkhead, there will be more fans able to cheer on the team and the operations will get more income.

Empty seats do not spend any money various an ad-hoc visitor who only gets occasionally will tend to visit the club Superstore to splash out on merchandise and also don't fully appreciate how crap the food offerings can be and so will but cardboard pizzas, dried out dogmeat burgers or some of the other culinary delicacies and over-priced drinks on offer.

Why would any business deliberately turn their nose up at extra revenue with a scheme that would be at worst, financially neutral? There would undoubtedly be an admin fee factored in to every transaction, so this would at least cover the costs to the club, if not run at a profit!

But at this time, the board can insist that there is no need to increase the capacity as you just have to look at all of the empty seats at every home game. This is despite them already been paid for and a waiting list for season tickets said to be about 10,000 fans (I might be well out of date on this approximate figure).

Maybe it is because doing the long overdue upgrade of the stadium is such a huge expense that will significantly eat into profits, which in turn affects annual financials, which in turn affects the bonuses of the very people refusing to contemplate this obvious option. So by kicking the can down the road means these already highly rewarded employees can receive even more from the club rather than us investing this money to improve the club for the future.
Ideally, every seat should generate income for every game, and every seat should also have a bum on it for every game. Maybe they could plan financially for 95% capacity.

I don't know what the waiting list is for season tickets, but I genuinely don't think a new, or upgraded, stadium with an 80,000 to 90,000 would meet the above criteria for every game.

If they could do something with the main stand, that adds another tier to the existing structure (similar to what they did at Anfield) and they add 5-10k to capacity without too much outlay, then I think that would be a good outcome in many respects. Make the ground have that 'wrap around' atmosphere with all roofs at the same level.

I don't think it would leave too many empty seats, too often.

They could spend a bit on hospitality facilities outside the ground - that would be a useful revenue generator!
Absolutely why I said every seat should income for every game, the bum that is in the seat might not 'own' the ticket, but they will spend additional money and will add to the atmosphere.

I might have a chance of picking up a ticket on the off chance for the odd game or two a season, but I don't bother now.

I spent £100 in the club shop and I was only there for the tour!
 
The cost of this will be no small fee, the more they put this off the more it's going to cost in the long run.
This isn't something that's going to go away anytime soon the club should present plans for taking the stadium forward.
If we don't move forward we will end up going backwards.
 
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Given that the main stand needs a complete rebuild which puts it out of action for months we would need to transfer to Hampden like it or not. I know that would not be popular but It would take most of a year to build it and that's the best option.. It will be cheaper to do it now than in the future. It needs designed and costed and ready to work on ASAP. The best time to start is the end of May. The problem is that our board needs to make a decision. The time for a decision is NOW. If The Rangers build more seats we will do it. Why wait for the Rangers? We can raise the money for expansion by selling 20,000 more ST and issuing more shares to current and new investors.
 
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Given that the main stand needs a complete rebuild which puts it out of action for months we would need to transfer to Hampden like it or not. I know that would not be popular but It would take most of a year to build it and that's the best option.. It will be cheaper to do it now than in the future. It needs designed and costed and ready to work on ASAP. The best time to start is the end of May. The problem is that our board needs to make a decision. The time for a decision is NOW. If The Rangers build more seats we will do it. Why wait for the Rangers? We can raise the money for expansion by selling 20,000 more ST and issuing more shares to current and new investors.
We are lucky here that there is another stadium so close by.
Not many cities the size of Glasgow has 3 x 50,000 plus all seated stadia.
That kind of thing is more likely to be seen in mega cities like London or Paris, we even have Murrayfield as another option ( I know, shudder at the thought , we were so poor there last time) the point is that the option is there for the club to play not far from CP while work is ongoing.
 
We wouldn’t fill 80 thousand I don’t think I’ve seen full capacity of 60 thousand outwith big games in over ten years (Huns Europe flag day and title deciders)
I understand we have waiting list etc etc
We play in a poor league and that’s why you see a few thousand spare seats (sometimes more) for most league games
Let’s see how a ticket exchange works first before thinking about adding another 20 thousand seats
 
We wouldn’t fill 80 thousand I don’t think I’ve seen full capacity of 60 thousand outwith big games in over ten years (Huns Europe flag day and title deciders)
I understand we have waiting list etc etc
We play in a poor league and that’s why you see a few thousand spare seats (sometimes more) for most league games
Let’s see how a ticket exchange works first before thinking about adding another 20 thousand seats
Spot on mate got to at least try the ticket scheme,,you would think celtic would be right on that idea as opposed to shelling out £100 million to extend the main stand which as you said wouldn’t get filled for regular matches….
 
Spot on mate got to at least try the ticket scheme,,you would think celtic would be right on that idea as opposed to shelling out £100 million to extend the main stand which as you said wouldn’t get filled for regular matches….
Man Utd etc wouldn’t fill it either playing in Scotland as the large amount of tourists wouldn’t go to games against Kilmarnock or Dundee 😂
I have 2 Irish season ticket holders beside me and I don’t blame them but they miss at least half the games so the seats are left empty but if they had ticket exchange then it would be different
If ticket scheme does go ahead then hopefully we don’t see many spare seats
 
Crowds have got smaller ever since it became a card and not a book with vouchers
As I’ve said it previous post you would have fans going to game without ticket as you would be able to get a voucher off someone around the stadium but it takes more of effort asking someone to get rid of ticket to someone then having to meet them after game to collect the card etc
killie do a thing where you can send qr code to a family or friend so they can use your ticket that would be good too
 
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I’m sure Man Utd but I’m not 100 percent have a thing about missing soo many games you lose ticket
I understand folk miss games with work and family and health etc that’s fine but I know some fans just go to big games (and don’t give to family or friends so seats empty) so Celtic should contact them and if they don’t have good excuse then sell to fans on the waiting list
Harsh but you can’t leave seats empty all season and have over ten thousand on a waiting list
 
We get empty seats at many matches because we dot have a ticket exchange scheme. That needs to be instituted asap. I do not believe we will always be in a Scottish league and that finance will show that we must generate more funds. Playing Ajax will get more people than Dundee. PSG will get a crowd. Build for the future. The main stand was ok for the seventies. But not for 2040.
 
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