Peter Lawwell

[Theverdict1]

no im not saying anything of the sort.

what im saying is I don't like the way you twist figures, then make spending plans on your wonky figures.

then repeat ad nauseam that lawell cheating club

its the same argument TGM used on celtic blog

Its bollocks its based on skewed figures and lots of imagination then blaming people for the shortfall in the wonky figures.

im all for aggressive spending as long as it adds value.

but willy nilly spending large sums on bit part players on crazy wages is stupid.

mcginn falls into that category for us, he doesn't add the value he was costing us unless he broke into first team which is very debateable

and on top of that the wages he were offered and the squad status were rodgers vision

based on that vision for player mcginn rejected us

its you who keep repeating it over and over
you also quote 60 million as if we can spend 60 million and have no loss.

thats false

so thats 2 objections to your analysis I have.

if a player costs 100 million to celtic but he adds that value under the proper cost analysis then he should be signed,

thats same with any player any cost

if he adds that value on and off pitch. business says sign him

however

if a player costs much more than the value he adds you have destroyed wealth.

the people who work with markets every single day of their lives work at stock exchange.

they know value inside out

they risk inside out

they make billion dollar deals every couple minutes

and they use risk metrics that take all information available and build an expected value

and if it add value they buy if it does not. the either hold or sell.

they don't horde shite

these people who works markets know the risks

And guess what celtic share price has never been higher.

what does that tell you.

that the world experts think lawell adds massive value to the deals.

he doesn't buy shite for sake of it.

if he doesn't condone a bid its cozits too risky.

but he condoned a 10 million bid on eddy.

so the experts think eddy adds value at 10 million

they experts think mcginn adds value at 3 million

but mcginn rejected the wage offered based on rodgers.

lawell backed rodgers time and time again

but he kept holding shite and buying mostly shite

then he was rocking boat when questioned about it.

And ever since you blame lawell based on msm information and TGM style bullshit

it may be popular based on lawell silence and his sleek it eyes and his grubby wee fingers

but all ceos are that way

next ceos after lawell will have same charecteristics

probably all vote tory.

that shite doesn't bother me in slightest if he doing the best he can for celtic.

it may bother the celtic support generally that he so silent on so much

but there may well be good reasons for his silence

he is a loud mouth character by nature, so I assume there a lot more to the silence than I can understand yet.

I believe strongly in investing money but correctly

I believe lawell believes the same

I have yet to hear from any of the James forrest mad cap theorists their fiscal plan or how it works.

other than spend it on him

he will be worth it

and mostly the people they want aren't even as good as what we already have and most of our players don't get much game time as is

so if they going to spend do it with someone that actually adds value to the club.

which lawell has strong history of doing.

not popular dude

but if your gonna hate him have proper reasons that make sense with real risk metric figures calculated

As I said TET we will need to agree to differ. The slump in our form obviously has nothing to do with lack of investment, the failure to get into the CL has nothing to do with lack of investment.

It’s all great. We are playing great. The world of Celtic is rosey. I have seen the light.

And, I don’t hate Lawell personally, I hate his risk averse arse. His inordinately long time to get players in. His taking a massive bonus when we failed to qualify for Europe. His view of what he thinks we need.

He may come through this window and tool us up to have a go. If he does I will be the first to applaud him. My fear is he won’t. His record supports that.

 

[TET]

Got you. Thanx. Seems like our overriding problem the past 2 years is our expenses and hording players.

God only knows how their going to bring the expansion plans estimated at 800M to fruition

capital investments if they add value can be easily funded by the capital and money markets in London square mile.

reason they don't give money to sevco is they have history of telling lies and throwing other peoples money down pan.

lawell has opposite history when he goes to these people and says look this costs 800million but it will pay itself over next 40 years easy

they will sit down listen to him and it funds itself.

thats how value added works.

if you have a plan that you have calculated the risks in a business plan

take it to bank and convince their investment teams it works, remember they know investments too.

if it makes sense capital is always available to the right projects|?

Why?

because they pay for themselves and make profits for the investors and everybody gets their money back and it was worthwhile.

have a look at crypt and they need to go to money shark junk bond specialists with massive interest rates just to pay wages till season end.

And they shaft their own people and all their co investors and all their stakeholders

And love to go court to explain why they are people

 

[TET]

As I said TET we will need to agree to differ. The slump in our form obviously has nothing to do with lack of investment, the failure to get into the CL has nothing to do with lack of investment.

It’s all great. We are playing great. The world of Celtic is rosey. I have seen the light.

And, I don’t hate Lawell personally, I hate his risk averse arse. His inordinately long time to get players in. His taking a massive bonus when we failed to qualify for Europe. His view of what he thinks we need.

He may come through this window and tool us up to have a go. If he does I will be the first to applaud him. My fear is he won’t. His record supports that.

but his record is anything but risk averse

thats in your imagination

he is not excessive risk taking

which is an obscene gambler

he doesn't do roulette

he does proper risk analysis which is not risk averse.

this is part of the msm propaganda shite

its also part of your unsubstantiated sniping

huns are gambling worse than serious addict

if they are your model then it makes sense why you think lawekl is risk averse

I can assure you spending 10 million on eddy is not risk averse

spending 60 k per week on musonda is not risk averse

backing rodgers on failure after failure is not risk averse.

 

[Theverdict1]

but his record is anything but risk averse

thats in your imagination

he is not excessive risk taking

which is an obscene gambler

he doesn't do roulette

he does proper risk analysis which is not risk averse.

this is part of the msm propaganda shite

its also part of your unsubstantiated sniping

huns are gambling worse than serious addict

if they are your model then it makes sense why you think lawekl is risk averse

I can assure you spending 10 million on eddy is not risk averse

spending 60 k per week on musonda is not risk averse

backing rodgers on failure after failure is not risk averse.

What do you think he will do this window and do you think it will give us a chance to qualify for the CL.

As for Rogers disastrous signings I frequently called that out and was attacked on all sides. He couldnt see a player. He has left us with a wage bill that goes on for a massive part in guys who have as much chance of being a first team star than me.

Are you confident we will do enough this window?

 

[TET]

What do you think he will do this window and do you think it will give us a chance to qualify for the CL.

As for Rogers disastrous signings I frequently called that out and was attacked on all sides. He couldnt see a player. He has left us with a wage bill that goes on for a massive part in guys who have as much chance of being a first team star than me.

Are you confident we will do enough this window?

I think we will do well this window

I expect at least 20 million on 4 players of quality

I hope they spend 40 million+ on 4 players of quality

 

[TET]

I think we will do well this window

I expect at least 20 million on 4 players of quality

I hope they spend 40 million+ on 4 players of quality

the hard part is getting quality players for less than 10 million if they have pedigree and status

but I trust Lennon

And I hope expect lawell to back him with proper war chest

 

[Theverdict1]

the hard part is getting quality players for less than 10 million if they have pedigree and status

but I trust Lennon

And I hope expect lawell to back him with proper war chest

I hope you are right. I too thought he would spend roughly that amount. As we need it. I am reluctant to get my hopes up though. I’ve been to that place before and it sends me into a depressive rut when it doesn’t happen.

We need to crush sevco, make the CL if we do that they are finished as a threat to not only 10, but as many as we decide to win,

 

[Maria]

capital investments if they add value can be easily funded by the capital and money markets in London square mile.

reason they don't give money to sevco is they have history of telling lies and throwing other peoples money down pan.

lawell has opposite history when he goes to these people and says look this costs 800million but it will pay itself over next 40 years easy

they will sit down listen to him and it funds itself.

thats how value added works.

if you have a plan that you have calculated the risks in a business plan

take it to bank and convince their investment teams it works, remember they know investments too.

if it makes sense capital is always available to the right projects|?

Why?

because they pay for themselves and make profits for the investors and everybody gets their money back and it was worthwhile.

have a look at crypt and they need to go to money shark junk bond specialists with massive interest rates just to pay wages till season end.

And they shaft their own people and all their co investors and all their stakeholders

And love to go court to explain why they are people

Yeah i understand all about capital investments. Seems a lot to borrow and are investors usually that patient 40 years to re-coup with interest.

I suppose mortgages are over 25 years too right enough. ??

 

[TET]

Yeah i understand all about capital investments. Seems a lot to borrow and are investors usually that patient 40 years to re-coup with interest.

I suppose mortgages are over 25 years too right enough. ??

its part of the mystery of banking

short term deposits

long term loans

but its not long term with the fancy derivative markets

at anytime they sell all/part of their investment for cash right now,

as long as it looks like a winner and the investor believes in the project they can sell their derivatives sometimes for massive short term gains.

Also share price today reflects the future returns

so another way get out when going is good is sell your shares then re buy them when share price goes down and you think its underpriced.

 

[TET]

I hope you are right. I too thought he would spend roughly that amount. As we need it. I am reluctant to get my hopes up though. I’ve been to that place before and it sends me into a depressive rut when it doesn’t happen.

We need to crush sevco, make the CL if we do that they are finished as a threat to not only 10, but as many as we decide to win,

we don't need to crush sevco mate

we just need to beat them

and don't be getting depressed over a game of football

it does get me down too

but its just football

we will beat sevco

and im certain we will buy some good signing this summer

 

[boab1916]

we don't need to crush sevco mate

we just need to beat them

and don't be getting depressed over a game of football

it does get me down too

but its just football

we will beat sevco

and im certain we will buy some good signing this summer

https://twitter.com/x/status/1138540716681043969

 

[Theverdict1]

we don't need to crush sevco mate

we just need to beat them

and don't be getting depressed over a game of football

it does get me down too

but its just football

we will beat sevco

and im certain we will buy some good signing this summer

TET I lived through the Moonbean era and his taunts. I know we just need to beat them, but I knew one day we would turn the tables on them. I want them crushed. I want to see lined outside Health Centres of the cunts getting tranquillisers.

That may be bad, I don’t care. It’s what I want to see and I think we are potentially on the cusp of it.

If we get the players in it will happen.

 

[lcafiero]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1138540716681043969

Hilarious!

 

[TET]

TET I lived through the Moonbean era and his taunts. I know we just need to beat them, but I knew one day we would turn the tables on them. I want them crushed. I want to see lined outside Health Centres of the cunts getting tranquillisers.

That may be bad, I don’t care. It’s what I want to see and I think we are potentially on the cusp of it.

If we get the players in it will happen.

it may already have happened and the press cant release that news till they can work out what a dead sevco means.

if they have been hit with massive Mike Ashley hammer cross. they may well already be two dead clubs buried at the crypt as we speak.

they are cheats tv

they know

hence the pathological projection of worse than cheats to make their cheating more palatable in their conscience

knowledge , secrets, agendas ,

its always been them

their inner neurosis like lady Macbeth washing her clean hands coz she sees the blood

their inner psychosis like Macbeth and the daggers that follow him about

manifestations of their corruption

they knew

they still know

but cant admit it

cant confess

therefore

they try to find something to hide their guilt

and project the x y z knew

classic

best bit is the secret agenda of the masonic craft involves knowledge of secret stuff

and historically it includes everything they like to calumniate onto their nemisis


The died chasing the greatest achievement in Scottish football

first uk team to win big cup

it killed them

 

[Ferris Bueller]

but his record is anything but risk averse

thats in your imagination

he is not excessive risk taking

which is an obscene gambler

he doesn't do roulette

he does proper risk analysis which is not risk averse.

this is part of the msm propaganda shite

its also part of your unsubstantiated sniping

huns are gambling worse than serious addict

if they are your model then it makes sense why you think lawekl is risk averse

I can assure you spending 10 million on eddy is not risk averse

spending 60 k per week on musonda is not risk averse

backing rodgers on failure after failure is not risk averse.

I don't understand why Theverdict1 is "unsubstantiated" in his "sniping" but yet you make a series of statements as if they were facts in the same quote! "He doesn't do roulette", "he does proper risk analysis" etc. Can you share with us hard evidence of Lawwell's proper risk analysis? I don't think the risk analysis is the key point anyway. Risk profile should only be a factor in an overall strategy. The leaked transfer document - one of the few primary sources (if we accept its veracity) we have available to us on these matters - reeked of a lack of professionalism within the management of the club, in my opinion. Others may see it differently. I'm failing to understand how not having an identified replacement starting right back at the same time as terminating the contract of our existing right back (who might well be better than anyone we can afford to bring in) is an indicator of good strategy but I'm sure there are plenty of soundbites at the ready to disprove my doubts.

 

[Theverdict1]

it may already have happened and the press cant release that news till they can work out what a dead sevco means.

if they have been hit with massive Mike Ashley hammer cross. they may well already be two dead clubs buried at the crypt as we speak.

they are cheats tv

they know

hence the pathological projection of worse than cheats to make their cheating more palatable in their conscience

knowledge , secrets, agendas ,

its always been them

their inner neurosis like lady Macbeth washing her clean hands coz she sees the blood

their inner psychosis like Macbeth and the daggers that follow him about

manifestations of their corruption

they knew

they still know

but cant admit it

cant confess

therefore

they try to find something to hide their guilt

and project the x y z knew

classic

best bit is the secret agenda of the masonic craft involves knowledge of secret stuff

and historically it includes everything they like to calumniate onto their nemisis


The died chasing the greatest achievement in Scottish football

first uk team to win big cup

it killed them

Ok, let’s kill the Zombie then. The same cunts it.

 

[TET]

I don't understand why Theverdict1 is "unsubstantiated" in his "sniping" but yet you make a series of statements as if they were facts in the same quote! "He doesn't do roulette", "he does proper risk analysis" etc. Can you share with us hard evidence of Lawwell's proper risk analysis? I don't think the risk analysis is the key point anyway. Risk profile should only be a factor in an overall strategy. The leaked transfer document - one of the few primary sources (if we accept its veracity) we have available to us on these matters - reeked of a lack of professionalism within the management of the club, in my opinion. Others may see it differently. I'm failing to understand how not having an identified replacement starting right back at the same time as terminating the contract of our existing right back (who might well be better than anyone we can afford to bring in) is an indicator of good strategy but I'm sure there are plenty of soundbites at the ready to disprove my doubts.

1 im not using any of my assumptions as facts to bash anyone.
2 I've been quite clear in my reasoning for my assumptions
3 if we accept its veracity is the key point

you think constantly referring to unsubstantiated evidence based on wonky figures that don't even corroborate the final conclusion is justifiable then fair enough.

but I dont

if you have hatred for lawell then feel free to express your reasons why

I won't be joining in with the lawell is the problem just yet

I haven't seen any evidence to support it

I have left behind plethora of my reasons why

based tangibles like share price
the trophy cabinet
the balance sheet
And the levels of operational costs in reference to operational income

these are all very easy to look up.


im open to persuasion

 

[TET]

I don't understand why Theverdict1 is "unsubstantiated" in his "sniping" but yet you make a series of statements as if they were facts in the same quote! "He doesn't do roulette", "he does proper risk analysis" etc. Can you share with us hard evidence of Lawwell's proper risk analysis? I don't think the risk analysis is the key point anyway. Risk profile should only be a factor in an overall strategy. The leaked transfer document - one of the few primary sources (if we accept its veracity) we have available to us on these matters - reeked of a lack of professionalism within the management of the club, in my opinion. Others may see it differently. I'm failing to understand how not having an identified replacement starting right back at the same time as terminating the contract of our existing right back (who might well be better than anyone we can afford to bring in) is an indicator of good strategy but I'm sure there are plenty of soundbites at the ready to disprove my doubts.

You have issue with any of my points and wantt to know where I base my estimations then iill do my best to clarify specifics

 

[TET]

I don't understand why Theverdict1 is "unsubstantiated" in his "sniping" but yet you make a series of statements as if they were facts in the same quote! "He doesn't do roulette", "he does proper risk analysis" etc. Can you share with us hard evidence of Lawwell's proper risk analysis? I don't think the risk analysis is the key point anyway. Risk profile should only be a factor in an overall strategy. The leaked transfer document - one of the few primary sources (if we accept its veracity) we have available to us on these matters - reeked of a lack of professionalism within the management of the club, in my opinion. Others may see it differently. I'm failing to understand how not having an identified replacement starting right back at the same time as terminating the contract of our existing right back (who might well be better than anyone we can afford to bring in) is an indicator of good strategy but I'm sure there are plenty of soundbites at the ready to disprove my doubts.

It may well be a stumbling block to purchase a new RB when we have an 8 in a row highly experienced RB on the books.

But again thats drifting into speculation.

on the lawell calculated risk question

eddy for 9 or 10 million is evidence of risky seeking

no guarantee that he ever justifies that payment, but there is chance that his age and his talent justify that payment based on the manager appraisal of the player.

2 things here

1 manager backed on another risky player purchase despite having serious doubts about his value spotting

2 You may be thinking tis behaviour is overly risky/gambling

but the market experts who buy sell shares don't think it has a negative impact on the current value of club as share price stayed high.

so the real risk assessment came from the market itself and although the market sometimes get it wrong, it usually is quite accurate at calculating the value added from any deal

Football is very high risk business at best of times

a risk averse CEO would not be able to compete properly and keep share price high

the sales price that lawell achieves for the outgoing players is among the bt value added sell on in world football.

partly down to the beautiful portion Celtic hold at the top of the non subsidised markets.

The one thing lawell has not been is risk averse

the operational costs have doubled in 2 years which means he backed rosters with operational expenditure of over 30 million per season before he even backed him with capital purchases

Th one thing Lawell has been shite at is informing the fans of the res 12 stuff and all the legal stuff that involves sevco and its fans and the horrendous stuff that is tarring clubs and one of them is ours.

I can only hope he is silent for the best of reasons