lennono
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Maybe he should try European teams to manage. The EPL is too much for him I reckon, they soon sussed his style of football.....I would take him back as our manager, he would romp the SPL easily IF he got cash to spend.
Should the Celtic Collective be working WITH the board, rather than against it?
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Thai Tim
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You make a good point LLP, however respect should travel in both directions. Chants and signs of "Sack the Board" and calling the board members "Tory scum" and suchlike are hardly respectful. You state the current Celtic board will never see the fans as equal or accept the fans advice. I prefer to say never say never. If what you say is true, isn't having dialogue with them a waste of time, so why bother? Personally I don't think its a waste of time and think the fans recent protest may have had a positive outcome and have given the board members a kick up the backside that they probably deserve, however like any amicable negotiations between 2 parties, the board need to see the fans as friends, not hostile enemies, and likewise, the board need to treat the fans with respect and dignity. You have made a good point that they should at least attempt to answer the 7 questions. I think the way forward is to identify a common goal that both parties could work in tandem to achieve. (Such as get us out of this piss poor league that is holding us back)! The longer hostility persists, the more likely our football team will suffer and have a negative effect on results and eventually could hamper future success, playing straight into our rivals hands. Maybe we need a good arbitrator?
Brimcbhoy
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And so the BR rumours will begin. Rodgers won't go there. That chairman is nuts, now Brentford or Crystal palace would be a different matter.
Shadow2
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The Board signed off on the minutes released by the Celtic Collective and there's enough in those minutes alone that should have the support deeply concerned.
(According to those in attendance those minutes are merely the highlights and don't even come close to giving the full picture of how badly Nicholson, McKay etc. conducted themselves).
Also if you take into account the now infamous 'statement' as well as the original meeting with the Supporters Associations then that should be enough of an insight into the attitude and behaviours of those running our club to make a judgement on who's account is closer to the truth!
Me....I'd sooner take the word of my fellow Celtic fans who have the balls to put their heads above the parapet, not for personal gain, but to voice very legitimate concerns for the club they love and who's only objective is to see Celtic be the best it can be over those who reward themselves huge sums of money while taking zero accountability for their failures and who's arrogance towards and contempt for the very people who make their well paid employment possible seems to be rampant!
Mediation is pointless unless both sides are genuinely willing to engage with the process but as has been shown, three times now in quick succession, the Celtic board have no real interest in proper engagement they're more than happy with the status quo!
Shadow2
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On the one hand this just proves what an absolute circus the EPL is, on the other it shows that Ange was mad to even take that job in the first place as the owner has proven once again that he's clearly batshit!
I'd have thought £3 million quid for a few months work was a bloody good reason to take the job
Thai Tim
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Good point!I'd have thought £3 million quid for a few months work was a bloody good reason to take the job
Lubos left peg
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I do believe dialogue with the board is pointless if its dialogue alone. They men in grey are puppets. That's why further protests must continue. Boycotting merchandise is a great way forward.
Do I think the billionaire absent landlord will care about missing out on a couple of quid from the drop in merch sales....nope...I dont. What I believe will force him to react is embarrassment. DD brought Rodgers in when the hun board rubbed a defeat in his face...before then, he gave no shits about closed stands and poor football. In the same way, I dont believe he will care about the board members sitting in meetings with the plebs. What he will care about is directors of Adidas, and our other sponsors, dragging him over the coals over poor sales and bad publicity. Thats what will force him to react.
Until it starts hitting the sponsors in the pockets....our board will not take the Collective or any other fan group seriously. The last meeting alone showed that.
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Shadow2
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I'd have thought £3 million quid for a few months work was a bloody good reason to take the job
Well I was more referring to Ange expecting to go there to achieve / build something but that's a fair point Ket.
Wasn't even a few months....39 days ffs!
Thai Tim
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So you want the fans to stop buying merchandise so that DD gets embarrassed and is forced to react? Reacts in what way?
Lubos left peg
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I suppose the way everyone else wants him to react. Not rocket science mate. I want him to instruct his puppets to actually engage with the fans. Not send them in to talk down to the Collective.
Although fans want a whole overhaul of the board, I think we all realise that isnt going to happen any time soon. So maybe answering the 7 questions would be a start....or at least some of the questions. Maybe tell us if there is a strategy...and if so, give fans a little peak.
At the moment, the board, guided by their master, feels no need to properly engage.
The meeting was a farce but it had to be done by both the board and the Collective but it achieved nothing.
Lubos left peg
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Its really an open goal for them....answer some questions and take some responsibility. It would get some fans off their backs. But DD and his boards distain for the fans is preventing them from even doing that.
It took a couple of huns celebrating in front of him to make him bring in one of Britain's top managers and give him money. Maybe an Adidas CEO giving him a bollocking at a golf tournament might do the same....who knows.
It took a couple of huns celebrating in front of him to make him bring in one of Britain's top managers and give him money. Maybe an Adidas CEO giving him a bollocking at a golf tournament might do the same....who knows.
Legend07
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When fans who want nothing more than celtic to progress and be the best we can be come out a meeting with “them” and say that they where met with total contempt the same contempt that we see from the outside looking in there is only one side I believe.
Especially after the lies we’ve been fed recently like “we don’t know who ran to the s*n with an exclusive”. We do don’t we Peter!
There is NO fixing the current board we need change and as quickly as possible preferably
I’m done as are the vast majority of fans getting the pish ripped out of us when it comes to looking for our cash.
While these charlatans sit on £70m+
We have a team that’s needing strengthened and a stadium where the peasants sit, needs at least a lick of paint.
I don’t think any meetings with charlatans will change anything.
lennono
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Me.......And am gettin aw the bhoys on the noise tae run the club. We've got 100million tae spend
50 Shades of Green
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A want ma money back nooMe.......And am gettin aw the bhoys on the noise tae run the club. We've got 100million tae spend
Thai Tim
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There doesn't seem to be a practical end goal to this conflict. Is there an end goal? Even if the current board were to resign or be sacked, (very unlikely), who will replace them? Makes me think... be careful what you wish for. Name a club in the UK that doesn't have wankers in their boardrooms. Even the successful clubs have them. So our fans have made their point. How about we now relax and get back to trying to enjoy our scintillating horseshoe football, and back our tactical genius elite manager, instead of having to put up with this toxic conflict every week as well as the horseshoe!
So we lost to the mighty Kairat Almaty from Kazakhstan. Its time to get over it because frankly we will need to get used to these type of results. Scottish football is on a downward spiral and we are going down the plughole with it.
While in the SPFL Celtic will never be any great shakes in Europe. If they occasionally go on a run and reach the dizzy heights of the last 16 in the CL, most of our good players who achieved this unlikely feat will be sold and we will need to start over again. If we have genius board members or the usual wankers it won't matter. The club's model is buy cheap and sell at a profit. Start and repeat. Occasionally we might peak, but mostly we will struggle while strutting our stuff in a one or two horse league. The only way to get real success in Europe would be to join the EPL, but our fans don't seem to want to entertain that idea, so we need to live with what we have and what we are. A big fish in a small pond that is drying up. Teams such as Bournemouth, Burnley, Brentford, Crystal Palace, Middlesboro, Brighton etc. are already way more richer than us and can outbid Celtic in the transfer market, leaving us with the scraps. They can also easily take our good players away from us. Each season its gong to get worse until teams like Stoke, Millwall, Preston and Swansea etc. are way more enticing for players that we would ideally want to buy. The alternative for players with ambition is playing in our piss poor league in front of a crowd of disgruntled fans for a season or two before furthering their career in England. Sacking the board is not going to change this inconvenient fact.
The point I'm making is that "The Collective" is putting all its energy into the wrong direction. We should have ambitions to WIN the CL, not just reach the last 16 once every 10 years, but to do this we NEED to get out this shitty small mud pond and be brave to actually DEMAND we play in England. I know... "its never going to happen"
So we lost to the mighty Kairat Almaty from Kazakhstan. Its time to get over it because frankly we will need to get used to these type of results. Scottish football is on a downward spiral and we are going down the plughole with it.
While in the SPFL Celtic will never be any great shakes in Europe. If they occasionally go on a run and reach the dizzy heights of the last 16 in the CL, most of our good players who achieved this unlikely feat will be sold and we will need to start over again. If we have genius board members or the usual wankers it won't matter. The club's model is buy cheap and sell at a profit. Start and repeat. Occasionally we might peak, but mostly we will struggle while strutting our stuff in a one or two horse league. The only way to get real success in Europe would be to join the EPL, but our fans don't seem to want to entertain that idea, so we need to live with what we have and what we are. A big fish in a small pond that is drying up. Teams such as Bournemouth, Burnley, Brentford, Crystal Palace, Middlesboro, Brighton etc. are already way more richer than us and can outbid Celtic in the transfer market, leaving us with the scraps. They can also easily take our good players away from us. Each season its gong to get worse until teams like Stoke, Millwall, Preston and Swansea etc. are way more enticing for players that we would ideally want to buy. The alternative for players with ambition is playing in our piss poor league in front of a crowd of disgruntled fans for a season or two before furthering their career in England. Sacking the board is not going to change this inconvenient fact.
The point I'm making is that "The Collective" is putting all its energy into the wrong direction. We should have ambitions to WIN the CL, not just reach the last 16 once every 10 years, but to do this we NEED to get out this shitty small mud pond and be brave to actually DEMAND we play in England. I know... "its never going to happen"
