Docco
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Get rid of Julia then.
Prefer Julien..much better player
Get rid of Julia then.
Just another French mercenary egoist in my opinion Docco. To get 8 million for him would fund the back line imo.Prefer Julien..much better player
Agreed SP.Aye, the boy lacked pace and height, but he loved defending and he was also a threat at set-pieces (in spite of his physical limitations).
He reminded me of Thomas Rogne who also got a bit of a bum steer. He was raw, but there was something to work with there and he pretty much got discarded too.
It says a lot for Erik to remember Celtic so fondly after he got second-class treatment for one pretty bad game (which we still won). I'd have him back in a heartbeat and way before any mercenaries who want to raise their profile and turn a quick buck.
Docco, I genuinely believe that Big Chris can go on and be the 'real deal'.Prefer Julien..much better player
Docco, I genuinely believe that Big Chris can go on and be the 'real deal'.
He's a wee bit fragile and delicate, but that's all part of the learning process and I think we missed his presence more than anyone else last season.
He also has a bit of pace and that would compensate for said lack of in Erik. I believe they'd make a decent pair at the back and allow Stevie Welsh to develop as a good understeady for the future.
Totally agree, mind he got a serious injury stopping a certain goal when we were two-zip against the Arabs.He's the nearest thing we have had since Paul Elliot...who lets not forget struggled at first
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As long as he 'goes on' somewhere else SP. Just kidding. We need a hard man to partner Juila. He's never going to grow a pair.Docco, I genuinely believe that Big Chris can go on and be the 'real deal'.
He's a wee bit fragile and delicate, but that's all part of the learning process and I think we missed his presence more than anyone else last season.
He also has a bit of pace and that would compensate for said lack of in Erik. I believe they'd make a decent pair at the back and allow Stevie Welsh to develop as a good understeady for the future.
The scary thing, mate - is that having watched the cream of European football at these championships, there appears to be a genuine lack of solid central defenders throughout the game?As long as he 'goes on' somewhere else SP. Just kidding. We need a hard man to partner Juila. He's never going to grow a pair.
Days of the hardman Defender is gone what we need is someone who can read the game organise those around him and have a bit of dig when it's neededAs long as he 'goes on' somewhere else SP. Just kidding. We need a hard man to partner Juila. He's never going to grow a pair.
I think this is so much to do with the change in the laws and the physical nature of the sport these days. Back in the day the pace of the game was much slower and defenders got a lot more leeway to be physical with forwards. These days you brush into a player - or he just runs into you or throw a leg out to make contact with you - and you will usually lose a free kick or penalty and get a booking.The scary thing, mate - is that having watched the cream of European football at these championships, there appears to be a genuine lack of solid central defenders throughout the game?
I've heard them rave about Diaz, but a pretty limp German side ran him and Pepe ragged last week and even 6-touches Dykes bullied Stones and Mings and these are supposedly £50 million+ defenders?
How much would Billy McNeil be worth in modern football?
Due to so many of the clubs from the richer leagues stock-piling so many players it is going to be difficult for us to afford someone who is really outstanding. Usually the good players we find are ones who have had an issue in the past and so people have been wary about taking a chance on them. VVD suffered a horrific injury as a teenager and so clubs won't not take a punt on him until he truly proved himself at Parkhead. Jozo had most of the skills but he was far too injury prone.Days of the hardman Defender is gone what we need is someone who can read the game organise those around him and have a bit of dig when it's needed
Julian lacks in quite a few depts ,jozo looked like he had theses attributes but just never had the fitness levels needed for the position
This is something that UEFA has to address this is unsporstmanlike in the extreme. Clubs , especially the biggest in the top 5 leagues should be capped on the number of players they're allowed to sign. They have significant advantages over every club in Europe already and this is handing them another advantage. Take paddy Robert's a quality player but will never play for city same for ntcham and others also the FFP rules are shambolic Chelsea were punished by not being able to sign a player for a season. City were in line for similar punishment but instead got a fine that wouldnt dent raheem sterling's pay packet for a week. PatheticDue to so many of the clubs from the richer leagues stock-piling so many players it is going to be difficult for us to afford someone who is really outstanding.
Whilst I agree with everything in your comment, Winter - never discount the absolute fact that these petrodollared-egotists are still going to have another bite at this super league proposal in future.This is something that UEFA has to address this is unsporstmanlike in the extreme. Clubs , especially the biggest in the top 5 leagues should be capped on the number of players they're allowed to sign. They have significant advantages over every club in Europe already and this is handing them another advantage. Take paddy Robert's a quality player but will never play for city same for ntcham and others also the FFP rules are shambolic Chelsea were punished by not being able to sign a player for a season. City were in line for similar punishment but instead got a fine that wouldnt dent raheem sterling's pay packet for a week. Pathetic
No club is immune to the effects of covid but clubs like Celtic are in a better position than others like the rangers even Barcelona are losing money hand over fistWhilst I agree with everything in your comment, Winter - never discount the absolute fact that these petrodollared-egotists are still going to have another bite at this super league proposal in future.
Once the financial actuality of covid really hits (and it really will hit), then those same fans of the big-heads who so vehemently opposed the initial proposal will be urging their respective clubs to look at the bigger picture.
Those clubs don't want squads, they want rosters akin to the NFL, NBA, MLB etc......
They also buy into other clubs so they can farm out players to get past (stop laughing ) uefa's rulesWhilst I agree with everything in your comment, Winter - never discount the absolute fact that these petrodollared-egotists are still going to have another bite at this super league proposal in future.
Once the financial actuality of covid really hits (and it really will hit), then those same fans of the big-heads who so vehemently opposed the initial proposal will be urging their respective clubs to look at the bigger picture.
Those clubs don't want squads, they want rosters akin to the NFL, NBA, MLB etc......
Great points BB, the art of defending is a totally different one nowadays to the one of days gone by.I think this is so much to do with the change in the laws and the physical nature of the sport these days. Back in the day the pace of the game was much slower and defenders got a lot more leeway to be physical with forwards. These days you brush into a player - or he just runs into you or throw a leg out to make contact with you - and you will usually lose a free kick or penalty and get a booking.
I think even more skillful but strong defenders from the past such as Paul Elliott, Marc Reiper or your old pal Dave Narey would struggle to dominate forwards like they did in their day. FIFA/UEFA/IFAB wanted to get away from some of the appalling thuggery that went on in matches right up to the early 1990s, but IMO it has gone too far so we've ended up with lots of namby pamby softies trying to out cheat their opponents at every opportunity.
Due to so many of the clubs from the richer leagues stock-piling so many players it is going to be difficult for us to afford someone who is really outstanding. Usually the good players we find are ones who have had an issue in the past and so people have been wary about taking a chance on them. VVD suffered a horrific injury as a teenager and so clubs won't not take a punt on him until he truly proved himself at Parkhead. Jozo had most of the skills but he was far too injury prone.
I thought Jullien was doing well until Duffy clattered into him and forced him out for a few weeks. He then came back not fully fit and I think that slight hesitation contributed to him clattering into the post to totally feck his knee up.
A lot of people moan about his lack of physicality after he was "bullied" by Dykes in that Livi game, but watching it at the time I thought this was entirely due to appalling refereeing. Dykes was allowed to man-handle and kick Jullien throughout the entire match without any action from the ref - anywhere else in the world and he would have been penalised and repeatedly booked. And yet whenever Jullien did try to stand up for himself the ref immediately penalised him. Surprise, surprise, the following weekend sevco goosestepped into Livi and Dykes was penalised for every minor offence and the two sevco central defenders were given free reign to man-handle Dykes like a rag doll and scythe him down with immunity!
I'm not sure who we will use in these positions next season - obviously we will need to bring in a player or two. But hopefully by using the right coaching, formations, tactics, substitutions and in-play adjustments we will prove to be much better individually and as a team. You should always play to your strengths and protect yourself from your weaknesses, which we definitely did not do last season in far too many games. From what I hear about Ange, this is one of his strengths so time to move on and hope that he delivers.
How much is VVD now compared to these players mentioned. When players stroll through games without breaking sweat you know you have a winner amongst you.The scary thing, mate - is that having watched the cream of European football at these championships, there appears to be a genuine lack of solid central defenders throughout the game?
I've heard them rave about Diaz, but a pretty limp German side ran him and Pepe ragged last week and even 6-touches Dykes bullied Stones and Mings and these are supposedly £50 million+ defenders?
How much would Billy McNeil be worth in modern football?