Theverdict1
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Ah well.
Valencia
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BILLCOWIE1958
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I remember the last time we played Valencia and were knocked out on penalties after drawing 1-1 on aggregate
We don't have a particularly great record against Spanish opposition apart from qualifying against Celta Vigo
Oh and a couple of pretty decent results against Barcelona?
Oh and a couple of creditable results against Real Madrid a 2-0 win at Parkhead and a 1-0 win at the Bernabau in Di Stefano's Testimonial
Oh and a 2d leg win v Real Sociedad at Parkhead ?
Maybe in retrospect not as negative a story as I 1st thought
MON the Hoops
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We don't have a particularly great record against Spanish opposition apart from qualifying against Celta Vigo
Oh and a couple of pretty decent results against Barcelona?
Oh and a couple of creditable results against Real Madrid a 2-0 win at Parkhead and a 1-0 win at the Bernabau in Di Stefano's Testimonial
Oh and a 2d leg win v Real Sociedad at Parkhead ?
Maybe in retrospect not as negative a story as I 1st thought
MON the Hoops
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zicocormac
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Could have been worse, strengthen in January and I think we've got a chance
Sandman
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Could have been better, could have been worse.
We have a puncher's chance over two legs if we're at it like Leipzig.
Get complacent or serve up yesterday's pish de resistance and we'll be picked off like day-glo Daesh at a a sniper's convention.
Hopefully the glamour of the tie will buck up the players to hit the heights again, immediately and consistently with Valencia on the horizon.
We have a puncher's chance over two legs if we're at it like Leipzig.
Get complacent or serve up yesterday's pish de resistance and we'll be picked off like day-glo Daesh at a a sniper's convention.
Hopefully the glamour of the tie will buck up the players to hit the heights again, immediately and consistently with Valencia on the horizon.
Digger
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Valencia are a good team with a fair history in Europe ,thier form recently is about the same as ours,if Celtic field a strong team both home and away I think we have a good chance beat to them but we need to be at our best. Not a bad draw could have been worse HH
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2 of their best players have just picked up injuries - supposedly both missing for 2/3 months.
So that’s better than nothing.
Hopefully they don’t spend fortunes in January though.
As for ourselves - this is a huge transfer window for us, as well as this season, we have the Champions League qualifiers in 6 months.
As we know - it shouldn’t have come to this. We’ve got guys like Tierney and Rogic playing through injuries, and McGregor and Eddy probably playing too much. It was always going to catch up with us.
And as we all know - there are too many squad players doing f.uck all.
There can be no excuses - Congerton has been here a while now. We also appointed Mick Doherty who was a highly rated scout for Everton and Chelsea. Brendan is responsible for all this.
We’ve brought in £27 million from Armstrong and Dembele, and we should have had money to spend from Europe regardless - it’s up to Lawwell and Rodgers to get deals done.
If not, one or both are culpable, and the fans deserve to know who and why.
So that’s better than nothing.
Hopefully they don’t spend fortunes in January though.
As for ourselves - this is a huge transfer window for us, as well as this season, we have the Champions League qualifiers in 6 months.
As we know - it shouldn’t have come to this. We’ve got guys like Tierney and Rogic playing through injuries, and McGregor and Eddy probably playing too much. It was always going to catch up with us.
And as we all know - there are too many squad players doing f.uck all.
There can be no excuses - Congerton has been here a while now. We also appointed Mick Doherty who was a highly rated scout for Everton and Chelsea. Brendan is responsible for all this.
We’ve brought in £27 million from Armstrong and Dembele, and we should have had money to spend from Europe regardless - it’s up to Lawwell and Rodgers to get deals done.
If not, one or both are culpable, and the fans deserve to know who and why.
Big Bobo's bunnet
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I'm not as optimistic as some. Look at the results they have had this season. Apart from one tanking in the copa del rey (Barca) they have picked up some decent results or haven't been too far away against some top sides. They don't ship goals and that's against some of the best attacking players in the world. Take a look at thier goals conceded stats over the last season and this one, it's impressive.
If our defence isn't on it they are still more than capable of doing damage. A euro spot from thier leauge is out of reach for them so this comp is all they have. 8 points in the CL can't be sniffed at as well.
We missed some of the bigger teams but I don't think this is going to be the easy game some are making it out to be
If our defence isn't on it they are still more than capable of doing damage. A euro spot from thier leauge is out of reach for them so this comp is all they have. 8 points in the CL can't be sniffed at as well.
We missed some of the bigger teams but I don't think this is going to be the easy game some are making it out to be
BILLCOWIE1958
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We must be philosophical about this
Who really expects us to overcome Valencia?
Look at the evidence available
They play in a superior league The best in the world in the view of many
They receive millions in TV revenue as well as from their league
They have the clout to attract top quality players
They play against some of the best clubs in the world week in week out
We at the time of posting this message do not have a fit striker but hopefully by the time this tie comes around that will have changed
There IS a chance that we can turn them over especially at Parkhead in front of 60000 fervent supporters and the Disco Lights
Let's face it since BR arrived we have been punching above our weight in Europe by just qualifying for CL group stages 2 years running
Do I think we can go through I have to say yes it's possible. but the Board would have to show some willingness to afford BR some decent cash
Let's be as optimistic as we can be Enjoy Christmas and New Year
Let's start as League Leaders after the Winter Break with a healthy lead and crack on from there and let European matters take care of themselves
Would I take a TREBLE TREBLE over beating Valencia? Yes I would
If we beat Valencia could we progress further? It's possible but look what happened in 2002/2003 when we went to Seville We won NOTHING that season and in my opinion with a FAR better team than we have now although I do have some brilliant memories of that season
So let's not worry about Valencia until we need to because all of the worrying in the world won't alter a thing
Just my take on it I'm certain others will have their's and they'll be different from mine
HH?
Valencia - we all want a good showing but it mustn't jeopardise our domestic ambitions .
As BillCowie says - a Treble Treble means far more to most of us than a limited run in the Europa League - we're NOT going to win it with the quality of team we would face ( and the quality we have ) but neither do we want to be horsed !
Priorities - win the League , then the Scottish Cup , then we can seriously start thinking about the summer and the C.L. preparations .
As BillCowie says - a Treble Treble means far more to most of us than a limited run in the Europa League - we're NOT going to win it with the quality of team we would face ( and the quality we have ) but neither do we want to be horsed !
Priorities - win the League , then the Scottish Cup , then we can seriously start thinking about the summer and the C.L. preparations .
BILLCOWIE1958
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Yup let's be
realistic without being negative or hyper positive
Can you imagine the Kudos a TREBLE TREBLE would give us? Can't imagine that ever being surpassed except perhaps by ourselves
The Dafties would be slashing their wrists and spouting their shite and bile
For almost 3 seasons now they've been 'Coming and Going For 55' where as we have been cruising along collecting Trophies Titles and Trebles throwing them an occasional bone by dropping points here and there but still keeping them in their place and laughing at their arrogance
Did anyone see the TWEET of their players trooping off the team bus at Easter Rd last night with Simply The Best booming out? Absolutely cringeworthy but totally in keeping with there sense of self delusion
If we beat Valencia great but we're not blowing our own trumpets saying that we will hence if we don't then no embarrassment
Keep things real and we"ll do just fine
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tictastic
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Totally agree with that pal,good post
Chubbstar 51
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Hop it not the same old so,so,One the future today See Manny Perez,Calmac,extension need to spend Big this window hope it’s not the same old retoric fans will be really pissed off
Steviebhoy67
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I'm with the optimists on this one. Valencia struggle to win games this season. Celtic WILL strengthen in January. Get the cigars ready gents.
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Big Bobo's bunnet
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Treble treble all day long for me as a rule.
We are in the EL still.
If we don't go for it I'll be disappointed. This window is pivotal. Do it right and we sweep the domestics at a canter. Mibi have an extra away day for the lucky bastards that can go ?.
We are sitting on a bit of net £ player transfer wise. Hardly spent a bean bar Eddie in the summer. Few improved contracts. It's the only thing we can offer to keep players and protect the squad so it doesn't count in my book.
The hibs game was pish. The Motherwell game pass marks. Still down to the bare bones with a few players getting game time that we all wrote off. No harm some goals scored and pass marks all round.
Do it right this January celtic
1. We will have BR for the next season
2. Few of the "better journeyman" with skelfs in thier arse might stay on.
3. Chance of better players coming in.
4. We do fuck all. Morale drops. Regroup and still grind out the domestic campaign. 1,2&3 filter out up into the clouds. Square 1 again. Everyone fucks off.
5. Hope . 1,2&3 happen. CL money comes in. Fun fun fun.
.all eyes on p
We are in the EL still.
If we don't go for it I'll be disappointed. This window is pivotal. Do it right and we sweep the domestics at a canter. Mibi have an extra away day for the lucky bastards that can go ?.
We are sitting on a bit of net £ player transfer wise. Hardly spent a bean bar Eddie in the summer. Few improved contracts. It's the only thing we can offer to keep players and protect the squad so it doesn't count in my book.
The hibs game was pish. The Motherwell game pass marks. Still down to the bare bones with a few players getting game time that we all wrote off. No harm some goals scored and pass marks all round.
Do it right this January celtic
1. We will have BR for the next season
2. Few of the "better journeyman" with skelfs in thier arse might stay on.
3. Chance of better players coming in.
4. We do fuck all. Morale drops. Regroup and still grind out the domestic campaign. 1,2&3 filter out up into the clouds. Square 1 again. Everyone fucks off.
5. Hope . 1,2&3 happen. CL money comes in. Fun fun fun.
.all eyes on p
michael duffy
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aw Bobo, stoap harshin ma mellow!!!
Big Bobo's bunnet
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Listen there were 5 points there. Pick your favourites. I'm going for a 1 3 5 2
michael duffy
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sorted Bobo, feelin better already, mellow restored, HH
