VAR & Refereeing in Scotland
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JamSam67
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The ref talks continuously in rugby and their version of VAR is in his ear telling him of any on field incidents.
They still make mistakes which have been costly to Scotland and others but bias isn’t behind it.
The incident highlighted here is both good and then ridiculous it’s a good thing tellling the player not to tackle but when he does he instantly makes up he got the ball that’s the obvious error that’s when VAR shows him the incident and they clear it up but we ken Thur cheatin barstewards. And that won’t change
The new mantra is Lessons learned this season
Next season
Stull Lernin
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Imatim
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The ref talks continuously in rugby and their version of VAR is in his ear telling him of any on field incidents.
They still make mistakes which have been costly to Scotland and others but bias isn’t behind it.
The incident highlighted here is both good and then ridiculous it’s a good thing tellling the player not to tackle but when he does he instantly makes up he got the ball that’s the obvious error that’s when VAR shows him the incident and they clear it up but we ken Thur cheatin barstewards. And that won’t change
The new mantra is Lessons learned this season
Next season
Stull Lernin
HH
When no lessons are learned, it has to be either incompetence or bias.
Either way those responsible have to be replaced, for that has to be the consequences of not responsibly doing the job you are being well paid to do.
Crawford Allan didn’t go voluntarily…
DIGGER1155
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Thank you about his standardThe tv ref said correct decision
Brimcbhoy
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In Beatons case it's, ' I've left you wan in behind the bar in the Crown John '.
DIGGER1155
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Justifying the ref talking to Lawrence an ex ref says it’s part of the game to talk to players yes it is but there is a difference between talking and couching trying to water it down does not change that the ref interfered in the game, just another media attempt to twist the truth
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Lubos left peg
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Anyone else think, now that Collum is going to be discussing VAR decisions with audio, that Celtic may get a few favourable, if not dodgy, decisions tomorrow?
Naismith is basically out the door. Hearts have been awful...I'd bet on them going down to 10 men or Celtic getting a questionable decision.
It will give the mibs and the media the proof they need that everyone suffers now and again.
Naismith is basically out the door. Hearts have been awful...I'd bet on them going down to 10 men or Celtic getting a questionable decision.
It will give the mibs and the media the proof they need that everyone suffers now and again.
Bridie Bhoy
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A welcome initiative from the SFA regarding better clarity on refereeing decisions:
The SFA are to introduce the Key Match Incident Review Panel to replace last season's Independent VAR Review Panel.
The panel will meet on a weekly basis to examine major on-field decisions and VAR interventions, with their determinations published on our website.
The five-person panel (comprising of Hugh Dallas, Kris Boyd, Ally McCoist, Neil McCann and the ghost of Ian Paisley) will examine major on-field decisions and VAR interventions, determining whether they were right or wrong before publishing the results on the Scottish FA’s website.
Members of the panel will vote on whether officials got contentious decisions correct while also devising each into a difficulty rating.
Decisions that officials should easily get right are given a rating of one, while ones that even elite referees could struggle with will be given a five.
Let's hope it is a truly independent and transparent panel who will provide honest feedback, rather than a body designed to cover-up and downplay clear and obvious errors committed by the refs and VAR. I would like it if they also included a brief explanation from the ref responsible for his reasoning for making the original decision as it may help to clarify matters rather than every fan assuming that refs are all biased against their team or simply incompetent.
The SFA are to introduce the Key Match Incident Review Panel to replace last season's Independent VAR Review Panel.
The panel will meet on a weekly basis to examine major on-field decisions and VAR interventions, with their determinations published on our website.
The five-person panel (comprising of Hugh Dallas, Kris Boyd, Ally McCoist, Neil McCann and the ghost of Ian Paisley) will examine major on-field decisions and VAR interventions, determining whether they were right or wrong before publishing the results on the Scottish FA’s website.
Members of the panel will vote on whether officials got contentious decisions correct while also devising each into a difficulty rating.
Decisions that officials should easily get right are given a rating of one, while ones that even elite referees could struggle with will be given a five.
Let's hope it is a truly independent and transparent panel who will provide honest feedback, rather than a body designed to cover-up and downplay clear and obvious errors committed by the refs and VAR. I would like it if they also included a brief explanation from the ref responsible for his reasoning for making the original decision as it may help to clarify matters rather than every fan assuming that refs are all biased against their team or simply incompetent.
Brimcbhoy
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Wont change the result though. Seems like its just another payday for whoever's on the panel.
Cronyism gone mad, or am I missing something?
Bridie Bhoy
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Of course they can never retrospectively change any results. The idea is to clear up any errors quickly or explain contentious decisions. This SHOULD be a good positive move, as all fans have been demanding an explanation of strange and incorrect decisions.
I'm prepared to give it a chance and hopefully it MAY result in less "honest mistakes" as the refs know they should be made to face the music for their mistakes and bizarre decisions within days.
However, we know in practice the sevco loving media will create hell shit-stirring to try to put more pressure on this new panel to publicly decry any borderline decisions that go our way and whitewash (orangewash?) ones that went in favour of that lot. This will ramp up the pressure on the MIBs in our games the following week to "even things up".
Brimcbhoy
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Do any other leagues/countries, have these kinds of panels?
Or are our officials so completely,
a. incompetent.
b. biased, corrupt.
that we need this sort of panel to mug the fans off that they care about transparency.
TTQtKK⚠️
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In Germany the do a full review after every match day. This is a good initiative but understand our healthy skepticism here in Scotland.
Bridie Bhoy
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How anyone who has ever watched a game of football before can decide that Rooney was not deserving of a red card and that this was actually a free kick in his favour to the Saints is Hunbelievable.
The ref, Chris Graham, got it so wrong. But what the hell was Andrew Dallas on VAR thinking as he watched this? Did he see the blue strip and cheer him on cos he thought it was his beloved sevco? And still he gets to ruin matches without fear of being punished for being so terrible at his job.
The ref, Chris Graham, got it so wrong. But what the hell was Andrew Dallas on VAR thinking as he watched this? Did he see the blue strip and cheer him on cos he thought it was his beloved sevco? And still he gets to ruin matches without fear of being punished for being so terrible at his job.
Imatim
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Contentious decision missed by VAR - Dallas on VAR - there’s a pattern here…
