What is success?

The league title is my number 1 priority. The Scottish Cup is always most welcome. The League Cup is a bonus. I don't get too caught up in the whole Treble thing - I want to win every match but realistically this never happens for any team.

I would love to get into the last 24 of the Champions League, and then progress into the last 16 to finally get rid of that terrible record of failing to win a knockout tie for so very long.

But it doesn't look like our recruitment programme is geared towards making any progress this season. Yet again we have regressed to operating at a snail's pace in the transfer market. Only to be followed by a stupid unfocused panicky splurge in the last hours as Lawwell rakes through the cheap options that others want to offload or pay too much on players as we desperately try to get in anyone.

They then have no time to get to know their teammates during the September international break and then we crash into European matches completely under-prepared with the same inevitable consequences. So no doubt yet again our own ridiculous way of operating will unnecessarily hamstring ourselves to hamper our chances to improve.
 
League and Scottish Cup for me, and on the European front - - - - not getting hammered by anyone, winning a couple of our home games and having a plan B away from home...

Blood a few younger squad players in the league Cup and rest the likes of Callum Kyogo and CCV until the semis and final...


Having said that I reserve the right to kick off and go in the huff if we get gubbed early doors in the league Cup 😂😂😂
 
Winning the league and finishing top 24 in champions league table (nearly just as important as winning the league in my eyes) and cup final win at Hampden would be a bonus ….this is the best Celtic has been money wise and probably our best chance of doing something in champions league (we might not even be in tournament again for a few years if we don’t get our shit together) champions league has massive importance this year
 
Well given the mythical ramblings of a compliant SMSM and a deludamol support from over the road this season presents the opportunity to be the most successful team in Scotland after many years of bluster from them.
So firstly purely looking at it from a domestic point of view i would want to win that first trophy available namely the League Cup to put the imposters into early season meltdown.

Next on the agenda following the same party line I would then want to hammer home the real 55th title and really take the piss on becoming champions with a 55 title bash.

Now if we manage to lift the Scottish Cup on top of that it could really finish off that other club over there.

In terms of Europe I can't at this stage see any sign that we will improve our status of just making up the numbers due to our custodians lack of ambition.
 
Winning the league, always number 1, followed by pumping the Huns, the mini Huns, and the rest of the artificial HillBilly Boy Klubs around Scotland, then a few more victories in the big ears cup, followed by the Scottish cup and League cup, it's not too much to ask imho
 
Fisiani said:
Rodgers inherited most of the team and is slowly changing the squad. Will it be more successful? I hope so.
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I think we brought in 9 players last summer, but many were gone by January with practically no contributions to the team. We then took 3 weeks to bring in Kühn who we were linked with on the 2nd January and Rodgers already knew Idah and we brought him in in the last hour.

So we did bring in a lot bit Lawwell Junior recruited inferior players for Rodgers. We lost stalwarts like Jota, Starfelt, Mooy, etc, and replaced them with poorer players.

So with 2 recruitment campaigns, we should have seen more of an impact from the new players, but there were too many failures. Rodgers realised this and resorted to having to mainly rely on those remaining from Ange's squad. It seems like he has refused to accept inferior players this summer so we have struggled to bring in anyone - though we are finally seeing some movement at last.
 
Bridie Bhoy said:
So with 2 recruitment campaigns, we should have seen more of an impact from the new players, but there were too many failures. Rodgers realised this and resorted to having to mainly rely on those remaining from Ange's squad. It seems like he has refused to accept inferior players this summer so we have struggled to bring in anyone - though we are finally seeing some movement at last.
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Maybe, but maybe not. Bear in mind that I've only been a fan since the 2016 season, so I may have missed better transfer windows, but overall I think we do all right every time, despite a tight-fisted board who needs to lighten up and spend some money. Even now, despite the wailing and gnashing of teeth every transfer window brings when we don't end up with -- oh, I don't know -- Messi or Neymar or the-flavor-of-the-month -- the fact of the matter is when the window closes, we do OK.

Not great, but not bad as everyone seems to make it out to be either.

Remember, it's sad but true, but players are not rushing to Scotland. Any player worth a damn knows that the league is a haven for hammerthrowing troglodytes, and those we may be trying to get to play here realize that. One only has to see how slammed Jeremie Frimpong got while playing for us before playing, quite successfully, at Bayer Leverkusen. So whomever Celtic has on its radar is going to want a lot of money to come to not-so-greener pastures, so to speak.

Regardless, this window doesn't look too bad honestly. Two goalkeepers to bolster an already adequate staff of Messrs. Bain and Siegrist (unless the latter has buggered off unbeknownst to me), it looks like Bernardo is coming back, and I have a feeling Norwich City will finally let go of Idah. But even if the Idah plan doesn't work out, we don't really know what Rodgers and/or the board has up the collective sleeves. I personally will wait until the window closes to make an assessment.

Is that as fun as bitching and moaning about who we're getting and who we're not getting? Admittedly, no. But it is what it is.

More to the point of this topic, however, success to me is winning the league, getting trebles if possible, and exiting the Champions League as late as possible, because as much as it could be lucrative to win the league every year and go on to the Champions League -- that UEFA money is really nice -- the Champions League and Europa League are, in my opinion, an extracurricular nuisance.
 
I really want us to start by downsizing. Preferably getting rid of our best players for massive fees. Hopefully O'Riley will be off soon. I'd be buzzing if Kyogo and AJ were also sold for decent money. Perfect treble in my eyes...I really love being the richest team in Scotland.
I then hope we sign a few project players on the cheap. Maybe a few, over the hill, last day loans, in the mould of McCarthy...extra credit to the board if he happens to be Irish...cause of the history and all that. Up the RA!!
Propping up the new league table in the champions league will be nice as we'd have already banked the £60 million and it's the taking part that counts. Don't care about the cups...as long as we have regressed enough that sky get their exciting, toxic "old firm" title race.
Throw in a few public "arguments" between the Glasgow business partners to spice things up a bit in the media would also be nice.
Now that's what I call a successful season


Signed....

Peter Lawwell.
 
lcafiero said:
Maybe, but maybe not. Bear in mind that I've only been a fan since the 2016 season, so I may have missed better transfer windows, but overall I think we do all right every time, despite a tight-fisted board who needs to lighten up and spend some money. Even now, despite the wailing and gnashing of teeth every transfer window brings when we don't end up with -- oh, I don't know -- Messi or Neymar or the-flavor-of-the-month -- the fact of the matter is when the window closes, we do OK.

Not great, but not bad as everyone seems to make it out to be either.

Remember, it's sad but true, but players are not rushing to Scotland. Any player worth a damn knows that the league is a haven for hammerthrowing troglodytes, and those we may be trying to get to play here realize that. One only has to see how slammed Jeremie Frimpong got while playing for us before playing, quite successfully, at Bayer Leverkusen. So whomever Celtic has on its radar is going to want a lot of money to come to not-so-greener pastures, so to speak.

Regardless, this window doesn't look too bad honestly. Two goalkeepers to bolster an already adequate staff of Messrs. Bain and Siegrist (unless the latter has buggered off unbeknownst to me), it looks like Bernardo is coming back, and I have a feeling Norwich City will finally let go of Idah. But even if the Idah plan doesn't work out, we don't really know what Rodgers and/or the board has up the collective sleeves. I personally will wait until the window closes to make an assessment.

Is that as fun as bitching and moaning about who we're getting and who we're not getting? Admittedly, no. But it is what it is.

More to the point of this topic, however, success to me is winning the league, getting trebles if possible, and exiting the Champions League as late as possible, because as much as it could be lucrative to win the league every year and go on to the Champions League -- that UEFA money is really nice -- the Champions League and Europa League are, in my opinion, an extracurricular nuisance.
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I get what you are saying Larry, but I'd argue that many of our transfer windows after Rodgers' first big splurge - with the notable exception of the ones when Ange was here and PL was absent (I'll let you decide which of these two factors were most important) - have been too slow/last minute, reactionary, haphazardly unfocused and far too often a downgrade on the players we sold. Yes, we still dominate domestic football, as we should based on our superior financial position and coaches we can bring in, but we seriously underperform in Europe. I think too many of our successes have been despite our transfer activities rather than because of them.

I don't think any realistic fan expects us to be bringing in established stars, as financially we cannot compete with low-end EPL/Spanish/German/Italian/French sides who love to hoard 30+ squad players and dozens of youth players. But we need to invest in less projects and spend the same amount of money (or even a wee bit more) on fewer players who have a little bit more experience than the massive gambles we insist on buying almost exclusively. There is a place for the odd one or two of these each season but not 6 to 10 every summer. Bringing in players like Sinclair, CCV, Mooy, Juranovic, AJ, Gordon, Hart & Commons show how successful this can be - of course, there are no guarantees as Duffy & Barkas showed, but these can be excused to an extent due to the unique situation of the Covid lockdown.

Plus we always leave it far too late. So we end up playing vital European matches with a team full of often not match-fit strangers with the inevitable consequences. Not only do we routinely under-perform, but we also miss out of massive cash rewards by continually dropping points. This also has a very negative affect on our future participation in European football as we fail to pick up co-efficient points which would propel us into a higher ranking. Very few fans are really expecting us to go on and get to the latter stages of the Champions League these days, but avoiding the annual humiliations would be nice. We will struggle to compete with the much richer clubs in the same way that our domestic opponents cannot keep up with us, but you can still give the giants an occasional bloody nose, and give the fans special memories. There are plenty of examples of clubs of a lower stature than Celtic doing much much better in Europe than we have in the last decade or more - that should be our target rather than sulking in a corner because Southampton can poach our better players, or sitting smugly in padded seats in the Main Stand slapping each others' backs for huge profits while being shown up on the pitch.

Yes, Scottish football is far too brutal compared to most other places, but I'm not too sure that it plays too big a part in us being able to attract players to us. It is maybe more of an issue in being able to keep skilful players at our club though.

The players we end up buying are far too often what's left that are available in the last couple of days that teams want to offload, rather than targeting specific styles of affordable players who will fit our manager's system we end up with players who have a potential but have failed in positions that we simply do not need to much. The failure to bring in a left back is the most recent example of this madness and shear negligence.

Although movement has been slow so far this summer, I like our strategy for the two goalies we are bringing in. That actually shows a short-term strategy in conjunction with a long-term strategy so I hope that it pays off for us, as it is a very pleasant change.

I hope you are keeping well, pal. But I'm not sure there is a need for your positivity on here while us crabbit shitehouses are enjoying our whinging!!! :LOL: 👍
 
Every win is a success and a series of wins brings success. The job is to focus on the next game and win it. Do that all season and success will surely follow. Win each match. Focus on the next 100 minutes of play and how to win it. It's that simple. No matter if we are playing Kilmarnock or Juventus each game is 100 minutes or so to triumph. If we don't lose a goal we cannot lose the match. The more we score the more chance of winning the match, Great defence is key.
 
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