I am always willing to disagree, at no point have I ever tried to say my opinion is more valid than yours. Anytime I add anything is when the something I haven't said or at least tried to express has been recommunicated in a way that I was never intending.
My final observation is that any man who is a known shyster who achieved anything purely through spending monstrous amounts of money can never be called a great in my opinion.
I am very happy to put this debate to bed, and I thank you kindly for your debate on the subject.
Results are good, good management which includes instilling an ethos thats based on cardinal virtues is better even if in short term they dont win.
Generally society has become poorer for the shysters and they still seem to come out smelling of roses especially if they do the shyster thing and feck off once they done maximum damage, in full knowledge that popular opinion will give him the credit for other peoples hard work and let someone else carry the can for all their shysterness.
You think he was great. fine
Im absolutely certain he is a capitalistic shyster who can polish his turds as clean as his rotten core teeth.