White Poppy

The fact people would call you a traitor for wearing a white poppy just proves how bastardised the supposed meaning of the red poppy has become. The red poppy nowadays, as other members have put more eloquently and detailed than i will, is fast becoming a commercialised symbol of "Britishness" and little more than a badge of support for ongoing British military actions. I say good on you.
 
The fact people would call you a traitor for wearing a white poppy just proves how bastardised the supposed meaning of the red poppy has become. The red poppy nowadays, as other members have put more eloquently and detailed than i will, is fast becoming a commercialised symbol of "Britishness" and little more than a badge of support for ongoing British military actions. I say good on you.
It's the older generation that is stuck in times gone bye. The younger people are far more open minded imo. HH Calum ☘️
 
What are my fellow fans feelings on wearing a white poppy. I wore one today and got more than a mixed reaction. Some said good on you bro others called me a traitor to our nation. As anyone else been given a mixed reaction. HH ☘️
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The poppy is the English Swaztika, it's original purpose has been overseeded by the rule brittania club god save the queen and fuck the pope mob.
I think James McLean expressed it brilliantly and the Celtic Fans when singing stick your fucking poppy up your arse.:mad: It's of no consequence to me what other people do but for me as the son of Irish parents I would rather be a leper.:devilish:
 
I’m 48 and (never have and never will wear a red poppy) and until today never even knew a white poppy existed. After googling it for a quick understanding of it (will research some more later) I’d say that for folks with any hang ups of wearing what I call a blood stained badge to celebrate British military operations then the white poppy is an alternative that I’d say (and would hope) would be perfectly acceptable to wear by the Celtic support.

If it symbolises (from what I’ve briefly read online) a wish for peace and also remember the dead of ALL nations from all wars then I’m surprised it’s not more popular than the 100,000 sold per year that I’ve just read.

What would everyone’s thoughts be on seeing a white poppy on the green and white hoops once a year.?
 
I’m 48 and (never have and never will wear a red poppy) and until today never even knew a white poppy existed. After googling it for a quick understanding of it (will research some more later) I’d say that for folks with any hang ups of wearing what I call a blood stained badge to celebrate British military operations then the white poppy is an alternative that I’d say (and would hope) would be perfectly acceptable to wear by the Celtic support.

If it symbolises (from what I’ve briefly read online) a wish for peace and also remember the dead of ALL nations from all wars then I’m surprised it’s not more popular than the 100,000 sold per year that I’ve just read.

What would everyone’s thoughts be on seeing a white poppy on the green and white hoops once a year.?
 
Great idea spey side lhad. It would be imo most appropriate for Celtic to wear the white poppy on our shirts as we are a club open to all. HH ☘️
 
I’m 48 and (never have and never will wear a red poppy) and until today never even knew a white poppy existed. After googling it for a quick understanding of it (will research some more later) I’d say that for folks with any hang ups of wearing what I call a blood stained badge to celebrate British military operations then the white poppy is an alternative that I’d say (and would hope) would be perfectly acceptable to wear by the Celtic support.

If it symbolises (from what I’ve briefly read online) a wish for peace and also remember the dead of ALL nations from all wars then I’m surprised it’s not more popular than the 100,000 sold per year that I’ve just read.

What would everyone’s thoughts be on seeing a white poppy on the green and white hoops once a year.?
Not for me. I don't see why we should have to wear any symbol. Where do you stop with this? Why not wear a symbol for people who have died from cancer, heart failure/disease, motor neurone disease, etc etc. The list is endless.
 
Visiting the Somme battlefield in northern France is largely a matter of going from one Commonwealth Graves Commission cemetery to another. The graveyards are everywhere, some of them very small, comprising only a handful of white Portland marble stones, many bearing the inscription, A Soldier of the Great War / Known unto God. One sees so many of these cemeteries and so many stones—along with the vast memorial at Thievpal bearing the names of some 70,000 British soldiers whose bodies were never recovered—that after a few hours of it, you feel numb. Overwhelmed.

The magnitude of the battle still stuns the imagination. The Somme was an epic of both slaughter and futility; a profligate waste of men and materiel such as the world had never seen. On the morning of July 1, 1916, 110,000 British infantrymen went “over the top.” In a few hours, 60,000 of them were casualties. Nearly 20,000 of these were either dead already or would die of their wounds, many of them lingering for days between the trenches, in no man’s land. The attacking forces did not gain a single one of their objectives.

Even so, a staff colonel had the cheek to write: “The events of July 1st bore out the conclusions of the British higher command and amply justified the tactical methods employed.”

Field Marshal Sir Douglas Haig, chief of staff of the British Expeditionary Force (BEF) and architect of the battle, evidently agreed. On the day after the debacle, stating that the enemy “has undoubtedly been shaken and has few reserves in hand,” he discussed with subordinates methods for continuing the offensive.

Which he did, with a kind of transcendent stubbornness, for another four months, until winter weather forced an end to the campaign, if not the fighting. By then, Haig’s army had suffered more than 400,000 casualties. For the British, in the grave judgment of noted military historian John Keegan, “the battle was the greatest tragedy…of their national military history” and “marked the end of an age of vital optimism in British life that has never been recovered.”

But Haig was not finished yet.

The great commanders of history fascinate us, and we read their biographies looking for one or more character attributes we believe accounted for their success. With Napoleon, for example, we think imagination. In Lee, we see audacity. Wellington, composure. Hannibal, daring. Of course, truly great generals seem to possess all these qualities to some degree. They are artists of a kind, blending in one person intelligence, intuition, courage, calculation and many other traits that allow them to see what others cannot and to act when the time is right. For students of military history, the question of what makes great commanders is inexhaustibly fascinating.

We are, naturally, not intrigued by unsuccessful generals any more than we like to read about ballplayers who hit .200 lifetime. There is nothing edifying in the biography of, say, Ambrose Burnside or any of the Union generals tormented by Stonewall Jackson in the Shenandoah Valley.

But Douglas Haig may be the great exception to this rule. First, because he still has defenders who—in spite of those many graveyards and inconclusive, costly battles—would claim he was not in fact an unsuccessful commander. At the end of the war, after all, the army he commanded—and had almost ruined—was, if not victorious, then plainly on the winning side. Still, at the other extreme, one can argue persuasively that Haig did not merely fail to achieve his stated objectives in the great battles of the Somme and Ypres. He failed in a much grander sense; failed classically in the fashion of Pyrrhus, who lamented after the battle at Asculum, “Another such victory over the Romans and we are undone.”
 
The attitude of Haig and his ilk to the well-being of the ordinary soldier is brilliantly summed up in Blackadder Goes Forth , when we see 'Haig' sweeping up the 'dead ' soldiers from his model battlefield with a brush and pan .
No need for words after that .
 
I’m 48 and (never have and never will wear a red poppy) and until today never even knew a white poppy existed. After googling it for a quick understanding of it (will research some more later) I’d say that for folks with any hang ups of wearing what I call a blood stained badge to celebrate British military operations then the white poppy is an alternative that I’d say (and would hope) would be perfectly acceptable to wear by the Celtic support.

If it symbolises (from what I’ve briefly read online) a wish for peace and also remember the dead of ALL nations from all wars then I’m surprised it’s not more popular than the 100,000 sold per year that I’ve just read.

What would everyone’s thoughts be on seeing a white poppy on the green and white hoops once a year.?


It allows people to celebrate all those affected. By war the world over and dont let any hun kid you they know if its white most in scotland wearing the white one is remembering ireland and theres fuck all they can do about it because its known as the peace poppy which in itself is a dig at those causing the wars.

Moral highground. Against the birch wavers.

If you are unable to wear the first choice of our easter lilly at work etc.
 
Green poppy.

I'd suggested this on a thread before about a GB banner, and by osmosis/weird coincidence the wee one comes home from school the other day with.. a green poppy.

She had made it. I asked, obviously, why?

'For the Green Fields Of France, Dad,' she shot back, looking at me like I was stupid. 'You know - the song about the brilliant war.'

'Great war, darlin'', 'Great, as in big, huge.' Had to make sure she got that right...

But, the Green Poppy - there's a trick - '~for the Green Fields of France' a perfect answer for the red-poopy nazis. And a perfect symbol to counter the bloodlust poppy, a nod towards not just remembrance, but peace, Ireland, etc.

I should be getting mine today or tomorrow when the schools come out - order's in. Will be wearing it over the weekend.
 

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