Would you financially support a crowd funded class action...

Imatim

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Would you be prepared to get involved in financially backing a crowd funded class action of Celtic shareholders against those who have been responsible for defrauding our Club out of tens of millions of £'s?

The evidence is there and it's irrefutable
 

Imatim

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My shareholding is the result of the appeal to help save the club many years ago. I put in the minimum amount which was all I could afford and I think it was £614. Before I took part in any action I would want to be 100% clear as to what it was intended to achieve
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The intent as I see it would be to seek justice and retribution against all involved for their illegal collusion and corruption perpetrated against our Club.
 

Lubos left peg

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I only read Celtic blogs so don't know the answer to this. Are bloggers of other clubs trying to drum up support from their fans on taking legal action. After all, Celtic were not the only club to be cheated. Clubs who could have finished higher in the league and possibly played in European competitions have also lost out on millions due to the corruption in Scottish football over the years. Personally I don't give a shit about other clubs chairman and shareholder who didn't want to "rake over old coals" but surely there is more than just Celtic fans who want justice.
 

Spherical Planet

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Would you be prepared to get involved in financially backing a crowd funded class action of Celtic shareholders against those who have been responsible for defrauding our Club out of tens of millions of £'s?

The evidence is there and it's irrefutable
I'm game, but I have some minor concerns due to other crowd funding initiatives recently (not connected to Celtic).

Like JS, I would like to know what it is we would actually be funding and also the likely outcome.

The costs of claims are notoriously difficult to pin down and a claim, such as this, would require a huge amount of disclosure. Even the documents that could be procured through FOI and SAR would be heavily redacted and largely unusable.

It would take a source with the unredacted files to be on board to construct any civil/criminal case.

There is definitely a claim for conspiracy to commit fraud; however - knowing that and proving that are two completely separate arguments.
 

Imatim

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I only read Celtic blogs so don't know the answer to this. Are bloggers of other clubs trying to drum up support from their fans on taking legal action. After all, Celtic were not the only club to be cheated. Clubs who could have finished higher in the league and possibly played in European competitions have also lost out on millions due to the corruption in Scottish football over the years. Personally I don't give a shit about other clubs chairman and shareholder who didn't want to "rake over old coals" but surely there is more than just Celtic fans who want justice.
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As I see things our Board are not getting effectively behind Resolution 12.

I doubt very much we can get any satisfaction from CAS owing to the secretive 5 way agreement whereby it would appear Sevco has been guaranteed indemnity

The alternative is for shareholders to argue in the court that the cheating and corruption seriously negatively impacted on the Clubs finances.

The evidence is there which can establish that fraud occurred. This I believe we can win
 

Imatim

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It's going to take really smart people with the right strategy and commitment as well as a fair bit of money.

I hope Auldheid or one of the other resolutioners (sp?) reads this thread and shares his views on this.

What I do know is there would be a few peepul shaking in their shoes if this was to take off
 

kelly

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If we can raise £180,000 for palistine i'm sure we won't have a problem getting Res12 into a court
Story goes it was backed by rich folk shareholders but every little helps , the only problem would be setting up the one fund by a goup trusted and verfied by the support would certainly put money in all they years travelling home and away in a rigged game
 

Maestro

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Would love to see Res. 12 being brought before the guilty in court but I think we should be going for the complete destruction of the SFA/SPFL

Individual cases against Regan, Doncaster n Ogilvie etc should be cut n dried in any normal court (which we don't have) so we would need CAS on board

Taking out the SFA etc would fuck up league business for a few years n could hit smaller teams hard but it has to be done so we can play on level ground for the 1st time

Would definitely be involved in any sort of action to achieve our goals YNWA?
 

boab1916

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Would love to see Res. 12 being brought before the guilty in court but I think we should be going for the complete destruction of the SFA/SPFL

Individual cases against Regan, Doncaster n Ogilvie etc should be cut n dried in any normal court (which we don't have) so we would need CAS on board

Taking out the SFA etc would fuck up league business for a few years n could hit smaller teams hard but it has to be done so we can play on level ground for the 1st time

Would definitely be involved in any sort of action to achieve our goals YNWA?
What comes around let the game suffer through greed then suffer the consequencies in Karma .

"Airdrie's problems worsened when it was revealed that Rangers had arrested the club's share of the gate receipts for Sunday's Scottish Cup tie at Dundee United.



Ibrox chairman David Murray applied for an interdict, on behalf of his company Carnegie, for a debt of around £30,000 owed by Airdrie.

Mr Murray said: "I feel very sorry for Airdrie and their supporters but we're running a business. We have given them repeated warnings and felt they were playing on our good nature."
 
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Maria

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I'm game, but I have some minor concerns due to other crowd funding initiatives recently (not connected to Celtic).

Like JS, I would like to know what it is we would actually be funding and also the likely outcome.

The costs of claims are notoriously difficult to pin down and a claim, such as this, would require a huge amount of disclosure. Even the documents that could be procured through FOI and SAR would be heavily redacted and largely unusable.

It would take a source with the unredacted files to be on board to construct any civil/criminal case.

There is definitely a claim for conspiracy to commit fraud; however - knowing that and proving that are two completely separate arguments.

If a SAR is actioned in my work it is unredacted.

I think but could be wrong its only govt that can redact info based on a threat to national security.

Imatim yeah all the way but would have to be the res12 guys coz they got all the smarts.

HH ☘
 
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Maria

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As I see things our Board are not getting effectively behind Resolution 12.

I doubt very much we can get any satisfaction from CAS owing to the secretive 5 way agreement whereby it would appear Sevco has been guaranteed indemnity

The alternative is for shareholders to argue in the court that the cheating and corruption seriously negatively impacted on the Clubs finances.

The evidence is there which can establish that fraud occurred. This I believe we can win

Is the fact the board have to raise it with the appropriate authority not going to be a problem for this?
 
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Spherical Planet

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If a SAR is actioned in my work it is unredacted.

I think but could be wrong its only govt that can redact info based on a threat to national security.

Imatim yeah all the way but would have to be the res12 guys coz they got all the smarts.

HH ☘
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