Spherical Planet
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I haven't made any secret of the fact that I was born and raised in Scotland's fourth biggest city.
For some of the negatives associated with being Dundonian, I love the place and all of the mayhem and madness that inhabits it.
It's also largely unpolluted by the sectarian bullshit that is evident in the western part of the country. It certainly exists, but it's not as overtly obvious as it appears in Glasgow and the surrounding area. I think that's because the significant majority of the Dundonian population are still pretty much aligned with their preferred choice of either of the two clubs in the town. There is a decent Celtic contingent in Tayside and I guess the same holds true for that new club, but Dundee and United still have the grip over most of the football fans in the city.
This leads me to the point of this thread.........
As a lifelong Celtic fan in Dundee, I've often had to provide an explanation as to why I don't support either of the Dundonian clubs. It's not a hard question to answer as it was highly unlikely due to my parentage that I was going to be anything but a Celtic supporter. However - in the last few years, it's been me asking the questions of fans of both Dundee and United. The most frequently occurring question is: why are either club in Dundee willing to accept that they are being cheated by a financially doped club?
This was perhaps more evident during the banter years when they were a direct competitor in the championship and still spending excessive amounts of money which their revenue streams did not appear to account for.
United took a lot of plaudits for standing their ground when hun fc v2.0 were trying to blackmail and bribe their way into the top division, but there is a lack of incredulous anger echoing from either Dens or Tannadice about how this incarnation are still flouting, flaunting and fucking up the financial structures of Scottish football.
Even worse than this is, is that this appears to be a common theme throughout all the provincial clubs in Scotland, not just in Dundee.
God knows Celtic could have, and should have, done plenty more to shine a light on the financial jiggery-pokery in Govan; however - I guess an argument could be made that our own business model should have provided us with the platform to continue to be successful if only our own hierarchy hadn't monumentally fucked up and taken their eye off the ball.
I, like many, have issues with our own self-implosion and mismanagement, but if I supported Aberdeen, Hibs, Diet huns, or either Dundee club, then I'd be incandescent with rage at the flagrant disregard for financial propriety at liebrox!!!
Surely these clubs have been punished by not being able to finance their operations with fantasy income and surely the owners and shareholders of these clubs would be justified in beating an angry course towards Hampden and insisting that the power brokers of Scottish football take control of the situation to ensure fair play???
I'm angry at Celtic for letting these cheats off the hook, but I'm also becoming ever angrier at the apathy being shown by the provincial clubs and their acceptance that financial doping should just be considered an everyday occurrence and an occupational hazard of playing in Scotland.
In the next decade - the full financial devastation of Covid-19 will send a fair few Scottish clubs the way of Rangers. It won't just be the semi-pro outfits either, there will be one or two (possibly more) full-time clubs who will never truly recover when the economic downturn bites hard.
They will rue the day they allowed the prospect of hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of pounds slip through their hands as sevco overtook their league positions, halted their cup runs, or pinched a possible European slot because they played fast and loose with financial propriety.
I don't believe that Dundee will be able to sustain two clubs in the post-Covid era. Fans will not be able to afford to attend as many games when reality bites and whether this is the huns fault or not - both clubs lost significant revenues during the pre-Covid era due to the fiscal fuckabootery in Govan.
Celtic will always survive regardless of what fate befalls Scottish football. There are leagues way way beyond this island that would bite your hand off to get the Celtic brand and marketability into their own domestic leagues, but the rest of Scottish football will slide into obscurity because it allowed one fucked up club to just bullshit and bully their way to some limited form of success while it shat on them all from a very great height.
During the AIDS epidemic of the 80's & 90's there was an advertising campaign which read that ignorance kills. Scottish football could take some advice from this and start a campaign which declares that apathy kills your clubs.
For some of the negatives associated with being Dundonian, I love the place and all of the mayhem and madness that inhabits it.
It's also largely unpolluted by the sectarian bullshit that is evident in the western part of the country. It certainly exists, but it's not as overtly obvious as it appears in Glasgow and the surrounding area. I think that's because the significant majority of the Dundonian population are still pretty much aligned with their preferred choice of either of the two clubs in the town. There is a decent Celtic contingent in Tayside and I guess the same holds true for that new club, but Dundee and United still have the grip over most of the football fans in the city.
This leads me to the point of this thread.........
As a lifelong Celtic fan in Dundee, I've often had to provide an explanation as to why I don't support either of the Dundonian clubs. It's not a hard question to answer as it was highly unlikely due to my parentage that I was going to be anything but a Celtic supporter. However - in the last few years, it's been me asking the questions of fans of both Dundee and United. The most frequently occurring question is: why are either club in Dundee willing to accept that they are being cheated by a financially doped club?
This was perhaps more evident during the banter years when they were a direct competitor in the championship and still spending excessive amounts of money which their revenue streams did not appear to account for.
United took a lot of plaudits for standing their ground when hun fc v2.0 were trying to blackmail and bribe their way into the top division, but there is a lack of incredulous anger echoing from either Dens or Tannadice about how this incarnation are still flouting, flaunting and fucking up the financial structures of Scottish football.
Even worse than this is, is that this appears to be a common theme throughout all the provincial clubs in Scotland, not just in Dundee.
God knows Celtic could have, and should have, done plenty more to shine a light on the financial jiggery-pokery in Govan; however - I guess an argument could be made that our own business model should have provided us with the platform to continue to be successful if only our own hierarchy hadn't monumentally fucked up and taken their eye off the ball.
I, like many, have issues with our own self-implosion and mismanagement, but if I supported Aberdeen, Hibs, Diet huns, or either Dundee club, then I'd be incandescent with rage at the flagrant disregard for financial propriety at liebrox!!!
Surely these clubs have been punished by not being able to finance their operations with fantasy income and surely the owners and shareholders of these clubs would be justified in beating an angry course towards Hampden and insisting that the power brokers of Scottish football take control of the situation to ensure fair play???
I'm angry at Celtic for letting these cheats off the hook, but I'm also becoming ever angrier at the apathy being shown by the provincial clubs and their acceptance that financial doping should just be considered an everyday occurrence and an occupational hazard of playing in Scotland.
In the next decade - the full financial devastation of Covid-19 will send a fair few Scottish clubs the way of Rangers. It won't just be the semi-pro outfits either, there will be one or two (possibly more) full-time clubs who will never truly recover when the economic downturn bites hard.
They will rue the day they allowed the prospect of hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of pounds slip through their hands as sevco overtook their league positions, halted their cup runs, or pinched a possible European slot because they played fast and loose with financial propriety.
I don't believe that Dundee will be able to sustain two clubs in the post-Covid era. Fans will not be able to afford to attend as many games when reality bites and whether this is the huns fault or not - both clubs lost significant revenues during the pre-Covid era due to the fiscal fuckabootery in Govan.
Celtic will always survive regardless of what fate befalls Scottish football. There are leagues way way beyond this island that would bite your hand off to get the Celtic brand and marketability into their own domestic leagues, but the rest of Scottish football will slide into obscurity because it allowed one fucked up club to just bullshit and bully their way to some limited form of success while it shat on them all from a very great height.
During the AIDS epidemic of the 80's & 90's there was an advertising campaign which read that ignorance kills. Scottish football could take some advice from this and start a campaign which declares that apathy kills your clubs.
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