Scotland

[BILLCOWIE1958]

Everybody loves the Lions. I’m
talking about harking back to how they were treated. Did it stop them playing for Scotland? If they can get over it, why not you?

Many of the Lions have come out and said that they feel they should have had more caps and I for one agree with them Who says they got over it?

And as for how we were treated as a Club 50 years ago It's STILL happening

HH

 

[Theverdict1]

Many of the Lions have come out and said that they feel they should have had more caps and I for one agree with them Who says they got over it?

HH

They still played.

 

[BILLCOWIE1958]

They still played.

Yes they played and rightfully expected many more caps which never materialised due to the fact that many HUNS in the support would boycott the games if THEIR players were not involved

Look at the way McLiesh treated both Gordon and Griffith's. recently

As I said what went on all those years ago is STILL going on

HH?

 

[Anthony]

want to see our bhoys playing well for their country,we're not living in the past,highlighting previous injustices,we're Fighting the continuity of injustices and the way we fight it is not whinging,but ramming it right up them! roll the 29th!! HH

Well said Michael

 

[Anthony]

And had that been me, you would say there she goes again dear Anthony ???

No way pal woulda said the same thing to you ??

 

[BILLCOWIE1958]

Well said Michael

Abstaining from representing Scotland under a no hoper manager is not whingeng

Our players don't have to prove their abilities to. anyone apart from BR

As I said in previous posts We're all entitled to an opinion you have yours and I have mine and the players have theirs

HH?

 

[Theverdict1]

Yes they played and rightfully expected many more caps which never materialised due to the fact that many HUNS in the support would boycott the games if THEIR players were not involved

Look at the way McLiesh treated both Gordon and Griffith's. recently

As I said what went on all those years ago is STILL going on

HH?

Do you think he did that because they were Celtic players? Bain played in the nit as important cup games. McGreggor is better than Gordon. Was Rogers treating Gordon poorly? If not, why not, he did the same as Ebt.

Griffiths seemingly got slaughtered and he went for Naismith, bad choice but do you think again it was because he’s a Celt?

If you do, how does Peter Grant and his assistant manager fit into that as two Tim’s? They going to go along with anti Celtic bias? Peter Grant? Can’t see that.

I’m interested to read how you saw it.

 

[Steviebhoy67]

Many of the Lions have come out and said that they feel they should have had more caps and I for one agree with them Who says they got over it?

And as for how we were treated as a Club 50 years ago It's STILL happening

HH

I totally agree. How they never accumulated more caps is baffling.
HH?

 

[michael duffy]

bertie auld 3 caps!

 

[jinxy67]

I think we can merge a thread or two by having a competition to see who can come up with the most derogatory name for McLeish.

I'm happy to start with: Cheating, tax-dodging, ugly hun bastard.

Not very original, but not altogether untrue

I have to put my two penrith worth here!!!!!
You have started a contest to see who can put the most derogatory comment about EBT guy and then start with all the good things about him
Everything you said about him there are true so you can't class them as derogatory so you are suspended from this contest for 24 hours so please don't say anything good about him again

 

[The Shamrock]

Aye, no contest Jinxy. Btw Penrith is a nice wee place.

 

[BILLCOWIE1958]

Do you think he did that because they were Celtic players? Bain played in the nit as important cup games. McGreggor is better than Gordon. Was Rogers treating Gordon poorly? If not, why not, he did the same as Ebt.

Griffiths seemingly got slaughtered and he went for Naismith, bad choice but do you think again it was because he’s a Celt?

If you do, how does Peter Grant and his assistant manager fit into that as two Tim’s? They going to go along with anti Celtic bias? Peter Grant? Can’t see that.

I’m interested to read how you saw it.

For a start how can you compare EBT.to BR as a manager They are night and day

EBT a cheating (by his own admission) alcoholic fuckwit who walked out on his country half way through a campaign to take up a position at a provincial club and eventually tak turned and ran back with his tail between his legs and his grasping paw outstretched to earn thousands to help pay off his EBT

BR is an educated multi linguist
In comparison EBT can hardly string a sentence together in English but that aside BR has achieved things that EBT could never dream of and BR has the Kudos that EBT never had and never will have

As for Peter the Pointer and McFadden What have either ever done in management? A couple of YES men who know their place who have cosy little numbers and have no intention or rocking the boat and losing out on what they have

Grant was a servant to Celtic A mediocre journeyman but knows on which side his bread is buttered
McFadden in contrast never was a Celt
He may be a Celtic fan but that means fuck all Look at Slippy G

Grant and McFadden took the Queen's shilling Gerrard took the King's shilling (excuse the pun)

Listening to Griff's interview last night he says he'll play for Scotland again He'll have to be picked first so we'll see what transpires

As for McGregor being a better keeper than Gordon That's debateable The League table statistics this season might suggest otherwise as might combined transfer fees over the years

BR playing Bain in League Cup games over Gordon is a manager trying to keep his players content by spreading the success Keeps for a happy dressing room Good man management of his players

EBT on the other hand throwing Griff under the bus when the wee guy OBVIOUSLY had problems He missed 7 games for his Club FFS but EBT was only bothered about his own back as were Grant and McFadden so they were never going to go against EBT

That's how Line Management works The shite always travels down the way not up and it takes someone with big balls not to back up their boss no matter how big a wanker he is

HH?

 

[Anthony]

For a start how can you compare EBT.to BR as a manager They are night and day

EBT a cheating (by his own admission) alcoholic fuckwit who walked out on his country half way through a campaign to take up a position at a provincial club and eventually tak turned and ran back with his tail between his legs and his grasping paw outstretched to earn thousands to help pay off his EBT

BR is an educated multi linguist
In comparison EBT can hardly string a sentence together in English but that aside BR has achieved things that EBT could never dream of and BR has the Kudos that EBT never had and never will have

As for Peter the Pointer and McFadden What have either ever done in management? A couple of YES men who know their place who have cosy little numbers and have no intention or rocking the boat and losing out on what they have

Grant was a servant to Celtic A mediocre journeyman but knows on which side his bread is buttered
McFadden in contrast never was a Celt
He may be a Celtic fan but that means fuck all Look at Slippy G

Grant and McFadden took the Queen's shilling Gerrard took the King's shilling (excuse the pun)

Listening to Griff's interview last night he says he'll play for Scotland again He'll have to be picked first so we'll see what transpires

As for McGregor being a better keeper than Gordon That's debateable The League table statistics this season might suggest otherwise as might combined transfer fees over the years

BR playing Bain in League Cup games over Gordon is a manager trying to keep his players content by spreading the success Keeps for a happy dressing room Good man management of his players

EBT on the other hand throwing Griff under the bus when the wee guy OBVIOUSLY had problems He missed 7 games for his Club FFS but EBT was only bothered about his own back as were Grant and McFadden so they were never going to go against EBT

That's how Line Management works The shite always travels down the way not up and it takes someone with big balls not to back up their boss no matter how big a wanker he is

HH?

Dont agree about the keepers McGregor is far better in my opinion

 

[Theverdict1]

For a start how can you compare EBT.to BR as a manager They are night and day

EBT a cheating (by his own admission) alcoholic fuckwit who walked out on his country half way through a campaign to take up a position at a provincial club and eventually tak turned and ran back with his tail between his legs and his grasping paw outstretched to earn thousands to help pay off his EBT

BR is an educated multi linguist
In comparison EBT can hardly string a sentence together in English but that aside BR has achieved things that EBT could never dream of and BR has the Kudos that EBT never had and never will have

As for Peter the Pointer and McFadden What have either ever done in management? A couple of YES men who know their place who have cosy little numbers and have no intention or rocking the boat and losing out on what they have

Grant was a servant to Celtic A mediocre journeyman but knows on which side his bread is buttered
McFadden in contrast never was a Celt
He may be a Celtic fan but that means fuck all Look at Slippy G

Grant and McFadden took the Queen's shilling Gerrard took the King's shilling (excuse the pun)

Listening to Griff's interview last night he says he'll play for Scotland again He'll have to be picked first so we'll see what transpires

As for McGregor being a better keeper than Gordon That's debateable The League table statistics this season might suggest otherwise as might combined transfer fees over the years

BR playing Bain in League Cup games over Gordon is a manager trying to keep his players content by spreading the success Keeps for a happy dressing room Good man management of his players

EBT on the other hand throwing Griff under the bus when the wee guy OBVIOUSLY had problems He missed 7 games for his Club FFS but EBT was only bothered about his own back as were Grant and McFadden so they were never going to go against EBT

That's how Line Management works The shite always travels down the way not up and it takes someone with big balls not to back up their boss no matter how big a wanker he is

HH?

I wasn’t comparing Ebt to Rogers. But the fact is whether we like it or not the cunt us the manager. How that happened is a huge mistake but it has been made, so we have to get in with it. You seem to be taking the position that because he’s a cunt we don’t want to do well. That doesn’t just hurt him, it hurts everybody, especially our players and those of us who don’t have an anti Scotland vent.

For me there is no debate about who the best keeper is that doesn’t mean Gordon is a bad goalie, it’s that McGreggir is better.

As for Griff, yes he was thrown under a bus. But what are you suggesting, he stays there? In a huff? Life throws every single one of us under a bus at times. What we do after that defines us. Do we just lie there and say, well every bus that comes after that I will be thrown under, or stick that action right down whoever did it’s throat?

Griff needs to show thatvdecusion was wrong. He needs to stand up with a fuck you attitude and show who the prick was.

As for Grant, he wasn’t the most gifted player, but he is a true Celt and I would be shocked if he was part of any anti Celtic vent. You are looking at past wrongs and seeing that as the present. If there was an anti Celtic feeling then why did our players get picked? Why would they play if they felt that?

Because Ebt is a terrible choice and an ex cheat shouldn’t be the reason we don’t support the team and our players in it. If we do qualify it will be because Celtic players take ya there. I will be proud if that and I will also be proud when Griff shows his class and balls and takes being thrown under that bus as a motivation to say, I will Fucking show you. That’s what makes winners. Not feeling sorry for yourself and saying they hate Celtic. Rather, show them they were wrong and without Celtic players they are fucked.

HH

 

[BILLCOWIE1958]

As I already said I was once as big a Scotland supporter as your next man but after realising many years ago that my Club was being shafted at every turn by Scottish football it made me think where my loyalties lay and it was a no contest With Celtic simple as that

You may not have intended to compare EBT to BR as a manager but inadvertantly or otherwise you did by putting out the fact that both went for another keeper over Craig Gordon and said you'd be interested to know my opinion on it and I happily responded as to how I saw it

As for Griff having to stay under the bus That's down to Griff himself If he's selected and decides to play then he will If he is selected and decides not to play then that's his prerogative and time will tell

You obviously have an affection for the Scotland International team as well as Celtic

I did too at one stage in my life however I'm now a one team guy and that"s Celtic

As for McGregor being a better keeper than Gordon that's a matter of personal opinion Yours is that he is and mine is that he isn't but I'll tell you that in MY opinion SEVCO not taking Gordon when they had him training with them was a MAJOR fuck up on their part and worked out perfectly for Celtic

As they say What goes around comes around

HH?

 

[Theverdict1]

As I already said I was once as big a Scotland supporter as your next man but after realising many years ago that my Club was being shafted at every turn by Scottish football it made me think where my loyalties lay and it was a no contest With Celtic simple as that

You may not have intended to compare EBT to BR as a manager but inadvertantly or otherwise you did by putting out the fact that both went for another keeper over Craig Gordon and said you'd be interested to know my opinion on it and I happily responded as to how I saw it

As for Griff having to stay under the bus That's down to Griff himself If he's selected and decides to play then he will If he is selected and decides not to play then that's his prerogative and time will tell

You obviously have an affection for the Scotland International team as well as Celtic

I did too at one stage in my life however I'm now a one team guy and that"s Celtic

As for McGregor being a better keeper than Gordon that's a matter of personal opinion Yours is that he is and mine is that he isn't but I'll tell you that in MY opinion SEVCO not taking Gordon when they had him training with them was a MAJOR fuck up on their part and worked out perfectly for Celtic

As they say What goes around comes around

HH?

I am not unaware of how Celts have been treated in the past. I try not to live there though. My overwhelming focus is always Celtic, but, I do like to see our national team do well, especially when our young guys are out there. I hope Griff gets off the floor, dusts himself down and gets even, not mad.

As for Gordon we will need to disagree, and I am saying that knowing that I fucking detest McGreggor, he is a dirty horrible bastard. The first time I noticed this was when he tried to injure McGeady before he scored the penalty. His cheating and falling to the ground against Hibs a few years back also showed he is a total cunt. But, I think he is a good keeper no matter how much I loathe him.

There is no comparison between Ebt and Rogers apart from they share the same title. I was pointing out he is the manager whether we agree with that or not and makes the decisions.

It is ironic that it was Celtic players who saved him. I believe it will be Celtic players who will take us to a final. This will help our players grow and improve, and that is fine by me.

It’s all about opinions as you say and I enjoyed reading yours.

HH

 

[BILLCOWIE1958]

I am not unaware of how Celts have been treated in the past. I try not to live there though. My overwhelming focus is always Celtic, but, I do like to see our national team do well, especially when our young guys are out there. I hope Griff gets off the floor, dusts himself down and gets even, not mad.

As for Gordon we will need to disagree, and I am saying that knowing that I fucking detest McGreggor, he is a dirty horrible bastard. The first time I noticed this was when he tried to injure McGeady before he scored the penalty. His cheating and falling to the ground against Hibs a few years back also showed he is a total cunt. But, I think he is a good keeper no matter how much I loathe him.

There is no comparison between Ebt and Rogers apart from they share the same title. I was pointing out he is the manager whether we agree with that or not and makes the decisions.

It is ironic that it was Celtic players who saved him. I believe it will be Celtic players who will take us to a final. This will help our players grow and improve, and that is fine by me.

It’s all about opinions as you say and I enjoyed reading yours.

HH

Yep all about opinions and it may very well be Celtic players taking Scotland to a Finals but I don't believe it will be the next EUROs and certainly not with EBT at the helm

HH?

 

[Theverdict1]

Yep all about opinions and it may very well be Celtic players taking Scotland to a Finals but I don't believe it will be the next EUROs and certainly not with EBT at the helm

HH?

I’m not over confident, but for the first time in 20 years I actually think we have a chance.

 

[BILLCOWIE1958]

I’m not over confident, but for the first time in 20 years I actually think we have a chance.

'Hope' as they say 'springs eternal' but I use all my hopes and wishes quota on things with a more realistic chance of coming to fruition

HH?

 

[Millsy]

If I might intrude in this dialogue ( Naw ! F*ck off ! )

Well , anyway , I was only going to say that , while McGregor is considered by some a better goalie than Craig Gordon , I resent the manner in which he was picked before Gordon .

Up until EBT arrived , Gordon was No 1 , and McGregor was still in the shadows after his 'lifetime ' ban for his scummy behaviour vis-a-vis Scotland's fans as he sat on the bench .
There was no reason to drop Gordon for the games against the mighty Albania and Israel - unless , of course , Gordon lost silly goals to them . But he never got the chance to do this - instead he is thrown in against Belgium , loses three goals , thus giving EBT and excuse ( if he needed one ) to turn to the scummy McGregor .