Paul Quinn
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Couldn't give a continental
Not with current managementCouldn't give a continental
Very true! It isn't coincidence that most of Celtic's greatest players have been treated shamefully by Scotland thro the years. The Lions number of caps, except for Caesar who couldn't be ignored, is shocking! Not to mention the treatment they received from fans of their country. Aitken and McStay couldn't be ignored later but even Burns, Judas, McClair, McAvennie,Miller and others from 80s onwards I remember being treated terribly by football colossus such as Roxburgh n Craig Brown. I was brought up going to Scotland games but gave up after 2-0 win over France round 89, shocking singing from hun end about dying a catholic bastard. Fuck Scotland! Fuck them in the earhole! Over 125years and they haven't changed... They never will!
I am and always will be a proud Scot - and supporter of the national team . But ...and it is a big BUT, there have been times during my life when I have been sorely tested in my support - and it has always been due to the treatment of Celtic players by the national management .
I watched throughout the late sixties , when Celtic had the best team in Europe ( evidence ? The European Cup ! ) and yet few of our players ( from an all Scottish team ! ) struggled to make the national squad . There always seemed to be a better player in most positions than a Celtic one - even if few had heard of them .
Then there was the refusal to play Celtic players in their best positions - usually moving them to accommodate a more limited Rangers player who could not be as adaptable as the Celtic one .
Jimmy Johnstone ( some of you might have heard of him , he was not a bad player on his day ! ) left out for Willie Henderson ( of Rangers ) - how many furth of Scotland had even heard of him , while Jimmy Johnstone was world-renowned , yet more often than was justified , Henderson was chosen ahead of Jimmy ! Or , Jimmy was moved to the opposite wing to let Willie Henderson have a game on the right .
Sound familiar ? The 'great' Sandy Jardine was often capped for Scotland - at Right Back , Mcgrain's position , so Danny was moved to the left to accommodate the less gifted Jardine - who played for Rangers !
Which other team in the world would move world class players to suit a player of lesser ability ?
''Anybody who saw him at his best had the unmistakable impression of watching one who had no superior anywhere in the world '' , said the great sportswriter Hugh McIlvanney of Danny McGrain . But obviously those running the Scotland team had different views .
I remember Kenny Dalglish ( while at Celtic ) was on the verge of breaking the record for consecutive caps for Scotland when he was inexplicably dropped from the team - Kenny Dalglish ! Dropped ! And for whom ? I cannot even recall - but I don't think it was for Maradona or Pele , who would have filled his boots .
So the latest furore from EBT McLeish and his supporters in the SFA does not surprise me . The sidelining of Celtic players and the promotion of lesser ones is old news .
I hope that Scotland win but we do their chances of winning no favours by allowing scoundrels like Mcleish to curry favour with his Sevco allies by his reprehensible actions towards Celtic players , who most would agree should be part of the strongest team to face the opposition .
What was that , James ? You scored four goals at the weekend ? Great , you can sit on the bench and watch wee Naissy do his impersonation of a dog chasing paper ! That will enhance your prospects of getting into the next squad - to sit on the bench , again .
That is how I feel too, ye are right too, it is sad. These fucks have ruined football for a lot of people. I used to love Scotland games and watching them wi a carry oot n a few doobies with my buddies. But putting in EBT management and players in is a kick in the puss to most Scotland fans. SFA sanctioned cheats is what we have in Scotland, sporting integrity? That's a fuckin joke.I too support Scotland and have always wanted them to do well.
Agree that the appointment of McLeish and the money he is getting
is outages and obscene,both him and McGregor should have had a lifetime ban.
These days I have mixed feelings about the outcome of their matches,
as I do not want AMcL getting the plaudits for success ,how sad is that.
not with current management I love my Scotland as a country as a football nation with current management since I have a celtic supporter first we have been back of the bus as far as team selection for the national team in the 60s the first british team to lift the big one shankly you are now immortal jock jinky or jimmy whichever 26 or 27 caps I rest my case team section creams 8 better give the celts a few as well just 2 keep us happy not current pal as far as I can remember inc jinky coming on at hampden and being booed cause willie Henderson did not come on hhNot with current management
they must be con fused .com they love the star of david hhMy wee next door sevconian neighbour informed me today, the game against Israel was away tomorrow KO 8pm. I knew Scotland was due to play Israel but not where and when. That is how interested I am. I will not be going out of way to watch it.
My love of Scottish national team ended the day the gave job to Mcleash. I was always willing to see past the unsubstantiated paranoia as it was always described.
I have also now come to detest BBC broadcasts.
The paranoia in my opinion has been shown as fact since the EBT scandal has been dismissed. To even suggest tax evasion in real conspiracy between rich men to defraud society gets the move on treatment then every injustice I couldn't prove becomes much more likely in my opinion. And I cannot support a nation that scandalises people with no hope and promotes scumbags who made millions by scamming the whole of society.
Move on.
Naw you made me detest being Scottish in a country that gives a lying tax scammer the national managers job and is promoted on BBC particular but MSM generally by the people he helped scam society then I will never again support openly that regime.
Ive got to pay a license to listen to a corporation that promotes tax evasion and maybe even partakes in it.
Ive got to listen to tax cheats and sporting cheats give their unjust opinions on everything.
Ive don't need to support the National team when it thinks sporting cheating by society scamming is something that should be tolerated for the sake of millionaires who don't pay their legal obligations to the society they want me to support.
I will find its difficult to hope Scotland gets gubbed but I will never celebste any victory either uniss i believe that kind of scum and scam artistry gets properly addressed and sin die from the game. Which i no longer think is likely to become a reality in a country incapable of ethics or holding unjust power to account.