Time to split the difference between WW1, WW2 and the Empire shiteAnd they want us to honour their butchers, murderers and assassins each November.
The GAA remembers. We remember. The GAA won't forget. We will never forget.
Forgiveness? That's negotiable and dependent entirely on that lot. When they honour and remember our dead the same way that we're supposed to honour and remember theirs - then that would mark some progress. Until that day comes, they can stick that symbol of death up their not-so-great british arses.
We know, just emphasising how the gullibears see life.I wasn't trying to start a poppy debate on this thread.
I know Lubo, just trying to highlight that there are many folk who see two ways of looking at death in this country.I wasn't trying to start a poppy debate on this thread.
.......................I know Lubo, just trying to highlight that there are many folk who see two ways of looking at death in this country.
On one hand, they commemorate the heroic sacrifice made by young men and women while trying to preserve their liberty and freedom.
On the other hand, they only acknowledge their own and dismiss the atrocities committed whilst trying to oppress the liberty and freedom of others.
There were many noble and brave men and women who made the ultimate sacrifice during the two global conflicts of the last century. They should be remembered and honoured for this sacrifice and if that was what their poppy was intended for, then I would have no truck with that at all.
For all of that nobility and bravery - there was equally as much cowardice and ignobility while they committed mass atrocities throughout the world, but particularly in Ireland. Their cowards and torturers who fell during these encounters are treated to exactly the same level of respect as those who fell in WWI and WWII.
In any other nation they would be called war criminals - not heroes.
I've gone and done it again, Lubo, and I apologise for the high-horse. The GAA have done right by their countrymen to significantly remember this tragic and horrific occasion. It would be nice if the sons and daughters of the broken empire could do the same.
Mate thats what gave fans the title of paraniod, so what if he never had a poppy and pulled his zip down and his tshirt said made from girders , would he be advertising for Barr and picking up your observation, try not to see too much not everything we see is in plain sight or in black and white.Anyone notice Lennon had his coat zipped up at the start of the game but pulled the zip down to display the poppy. He may well have been told to do so. I don't remember Rogers being forced to wear a poppy as Celtic manager so this new approach would suggest 'poppy normalisation' by the board. Expect to see poppies on player jerseys within the next year or two.
What point are you trying to make here? Lennon wore a poppy; everyone I've spoken to who saw that is as disgusted by it as I am. The poppy means different things to different people but there's nothing ambiguous about it over here. To us it represents the murder of Aidan McAnespie and the cover up which followed; among many other murders and cover ups. Lennon is well aware of this but he chose to stand with Britain's murderers rather than his own people. Shame on him.Mate thats what gave fans the title of paraniod, so what if he never had a poppy and pulled his zip down and his tshirt said made from girders , would he be advertising for Barr and picking up your observation, try not to see too much not everything we see is in plain sight or in black and white.
Try finding the arrow as the example of hidden in plain sight
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What point are you trying to make here? Lennon wore a poppy; everyone I've spoken to who saw that is as disgusted by it as I am. The poppy means different things to different people but there's nothing ambiguous about it over here. To us it represents the murder of Aidan McAnespie and the cover up which followed; among many other murders and cover ups. Lennon is well aware of this but he chose to stand with Britain's murderers rather than his own people. Shame on him.
Irish fought in world wars but Ireland fought in no world wars. Most of those people are now dead anyway so what the modern poppy represents is the modern British war machine. The poppy is highly politicised here. Irish people, particularly those of us under British occupation, reject it. They don't wear it either in France, Russia or America; all of whom allied with the Brits in both world wars. It's a partisan Brit imperialist emblem. If British people choose to wear it that's their prerogative but an Irishman wearing one is a soup-taking sellout.View attachment 12026
2 wars Irish fought in and can remember their loved ones lost in the poppy fields, stop giving in to the hun and allowing them to capatilise on a symbol. Tina Turner also sung a pop song not a hun anthem, grow up.
Poppy is a straight choice not a debating topic its a choice thing, just like how you spend your pocket money it's yours to choose.Although I now realise the only direction the thread could take was straight into the poppy debate
Agreed Lubos, see for us in Ireland the poppy does stand as a symbol of the British army. I know that is not what it was to represent but for most of us still feel like for all who died were still wearing a British army uniform, and can't respect that when they have never acknowledged the damage they have done and caused on the island of lreland against the Catholic people.Thought it was a nice gesture from the GAA, hence the reason I posted the video.
Some of those guys might wear a poppy infact I'm sure some of them have as some are Scots and English but I'll bet you Packie Bonner never has and never will. Packie like Lennon is a naturally-born Irishman and there the similarities end."Most of those people are now dead anyway so what the modern poppy represents is the modern British war machine"
The fucking Poppy is in rememberance of what you have just stated, in memory of those who are dead from the war so it does not matter if they are dead and so to, will soon be, all who fought in them, thats the purpose of it, to let them know they never died in vain. The bit that states lest we forget.
Who cares what others think it is peoples choice to wear one in remberance of their loved ones and others who fought against facisim, the people of Ireland have every right as does the rest of the world to pour scorn on the British and USA for their political and economic wars but the point is the poppy was created to remember the great wars and its folk and thats all that matters as long as the wearer wears it in rememberance of the occassion it was designed for then, it is simply a gesture by them to highlight your debt was not in vain.
Some of these guys would wear it with no issues at all and these guys also wore the Ireland top even though Ireland was not their country of birth, are they soup takers or turncoats?
The modern poppy to me represent drug abuse and homelessness.
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