AGM (board Support)

Is it best for Celtic to let RES 12 Alone

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • No

    Votes: 20 90.9%
  • Don't Care

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • Total voters
    22

TET

Well-known member
Im seriously scunnered.

I have defended the board on many occasions in hope they were on the ball.

It is now my personal opinion they are a serious problem. for the club and its fans.

There seems to be serious disconnect, again my opinion.

The silence wasn't, imo, to get it right, it was in hope it goes away.

But why? Silence on that as well????


Anyway, im curious just incase im having a funny mental spasm. Does anyone think its best if Resolution 12 is not investigated? Is corruption and secret agreements really better than clean game.

My answer is no.

I couldn't give shite if it means Celtic are weaker team by cutting out corporate fraud and tax skullduggery. Even if it turns out every club are doing it. I would rather it was cut out. |But I am a bit deranged. I know that full well.

So my poll Question is

Does anyone think the board are correct to be Silent while corrupt individuals are still in Scottish football.

Its really just to see its normal for me to be scunnered after another silent (or deflectionary AGM).

Why am I scunnered? I think its purely because I gave these arseholes so much defence when its quite clear they dont give a monkey for CUSTOMERS its the company that matters in every single way that expression can be interpreted.

The company feel its inappropriate behaviour from our riff Raff to be political, its not what our company is about.

And I defended that friggin arsewipe

Ahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!
 

Spherical Planet

Well-known member
Serious questions have to be asked and answered.

The board can't be allowed to sit idly in their ivory tower and insist that they're right on all things without fear of contradiction.

I still don't have a viable alternative to propose, but I know that if my patience is being tested with them, then the vast majority of other fans must be up the wall.

I don't mind defending them, but I will refuse to defend the indefensible. They need their feet held to the fire and explain in plain language what their agenda is regarding combating the SFA and that body's continued abuse of Our Club.
 

Imatim

Well-known member
By taking this line.....make no mistake.....the Celtic Board have tacitly condoned cheating and corruption.....we have publicly given a free hand to those who hate us to do as they please.....as we will meekly accept whatever that entails.....I now fully expect all those who wish us harm to be buoyed by this cowardly and repulsive capitulation by our custodians and go after us with renewed vigour and aggression.....
 

the great jc

Well-known member
GET LAWWELL TO FUCK OUT OF OUR CLUB.

HIS BEHAVIOUR REGARDING CELTIC, TRANSPARENCY AND JUSTICE FOR OUR SHAREHOLDERS IS NOTHING SHORT OF ANTI-CELTIC AND UTTER CAPITULATION.

NOW WE KNOW, IT IS HIS INTENTION TO LEAVE OUR CLUB HANDICAPPED AND ROBBED FROM AN IGNORANT AND NEFARIOUS SFA GOVERNING BODY THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN TO TASK, NOT LEAST ON THE REFEREES, BEATON, COLLUM, MADDEN AND CO BUT TO ATTEST HE HAS NO INTEREST IN RES 12 IS TANTAMOUNT TO TREASON.


I ABSOLUTELY DETEST THAT MAN WITH EVERY FIBRE OF MY BEING, AND IF HE IS ALLOWED TO STAY IN CHARGE OF OUR CLUB I AND MANY OTHERS REMAIN UNDECIDED WHEN RE-APPLYING FOR OUR ST IN OUR 10IAR YEAR.

HE IS A NEGATIVE INFLUENCE THAT'S PUTS US ON A BACKWARD STANCE SINCE HIS TENURE.

REMEMBER, EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED RECENTLY OF NOTE AND IMPORTANCE HAS BEEN PLAYED OUT ON HIS WATCH...IN THE LAST 17 YEARS.

The survival lie, the continuity myth and his interpretation of Resolution 12 have all been left unaddressed, but, for him to state on Jan 4th,
"Celtic fans need transparency with the inexplicable refereeing decisions by Beaton during the previous Celtic / Newco derby" .....and requested an explanation from SFA.
Yesterday he suggests its not in our interest to know what his reply from the SFA contained.

WHAT!
Celtic fans that don't agree have not been paying attention.

This is enough, without us he has no job.
KICK HIM OUT.
.......UNCEREMONIOUSLY.
 

Lemon

Well-known member
Fergus saw Celtic as a company too and never hid the idea that he wanted to make cash. Remember the booing he was given from the fans because of that capitalist agenda. Fergus I think also saw the reality of the need for Celtic to compete with Rangers and his stadium plan gave us the ability to catch up with them. The cheating by our opponents eventually led to them going to the wall and us taking our place as undisputed leaders of Scottish football. So unlike in Fergus' era Peter is competing against a new club which could also fold at any moment. His business plan does not want this, he envisages a functional opponent,albeit with the upper hand on said opponent, with TV revenues maximised due to the new rivalry. The new club have almost got him there but are doing so on a very shoogly peg. If they can remain afloat Scotland may soon have 2 representatives in CL and less pressure to win domestic title. In other words a chance for both clubs to make more money with less capital risk required. Quids in! We are all barking up the wrong tree if we expect lifelong capitalists to change their spots. I can only see 1 solution for us and that is the buyout by our worldwide fan base and a worldwide club membership with voting rights for every member. Celtic is not PL, DD, the GB or anybody else. It is our worldwide fanbase, our history and our charity. If we want any say in its future story we have to take over the club.
 

Celtic Ultra (sort of)

Well-known member
In the words of Paul Weller
The more I see, The more I know,
The more I know, The less I understand.

That's how I feel, I do not understand the inaction of the board.
Like yer post R.
I hope I'm right in believing that none of us in retrospect would debate the brilliance of the Bunnets masterplan for Celtic ( I think most of us would be delighted if he got a statue ) and I genuinely believe this board are committed custodians of his vision. Why else would Fergus retain any commitment to Celtic for example his letter to the fans which was part of the 17/18 season book renewal package ? and his regular visits to the stadium ?? I may be wrong but I think I'm right in believing that Celtic is in safe hands
 

Lubos left peg

Well-known member
Like yer post R.
I hope I'm right in believing that none of us in retrospect would debate the brilliance of the Bunnets masterplan for Celtic ( I think most of us would be delighted if he got a statue ) and I genuinely believe this board are committed custodians of his vision. Why else would Fergus retain any commitment to Celtic for example his letter to the fans which was part of the 17/18 season book renewal package ? and his regular visits to the stadium ?? I may be wrong but I think I'm right in believing that Celtic is in safe hands
No doubting they are in safe hands financially. Lawwel and the men in charge will make sure cash keeps pouring in, I'm sure of that.....but at what cost. Helping support a rigged game?? Making sure that there will alway be a strong "rangers"?? Ensuring that no matter what, sky has their 4 "old firms" every year??
 

Docco

Well-known member
Lawwell can be sacked, replaced or whatever but until the structure of the PLC boardroom is changed, and more fan input is encouraged ( by fan I mean ordinary working man fan) by a seat at the top table , the club will be run and will continue to go in the direction it's heading ...a corporate "Celtic" themed franchise.....for every Lawwell , there are plenty of his ilk willing and ready to step in
 

Spherical Planet

Well-known member
Check out the German rules about club ownership. The supporters are always the majority shareholders, with a 50% +1 rule. Attendances are good and match tickets affordable.
Nothing gets done without the supporters consent.
They can circumnavigate that a bit by having their 'partners' (effectively owners) financing them.

Bayer (leverkusen), Allianz, Adidas, AG (Bayern Munich), Volkswagen (Wolfsburg). It's a pretty neat idea on the face of it and the Bundesliga has done a great job in making football accessible to ordinary punters, bit there's still significant clout there to bankroll it. Ultimately though - when big decisions have to be made, it's interesting to note how many of that 51% are employed at the various companies who finance the operations.
 
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