That is a great post Tet.The tory proclamation was not the problem
It was the offensive gesture to a celebrity fan, who just so happens to be rich.
Singing about hating tories is one thing.
Telling a fan they are not a fan if they dont agree with hating tories is quite another.
I have no idea if Stewart or the other Tory fans of club are philanthropic win their own way.
Who they vote for is their business.
Has nought to do with Celtic.
Holding up a banner to tell a fan to feck off is not Celtic minded
Telling them their politics is not your cup of tea is one thing.
Telling them to feck off is another. And if the reason is he votes Tory then its bang out of order.
Who they feck thinks its ok to dictate who he votes?
Politics is fraught with machiavellian connivance and if Green brigade are more political than Celtic minded then they really aren't fans either in their own definition.
Freedom requires choice
Dictatorship of what constitutes the correct choice is not Celtic.
I dont like Tory system.
I am probably more victim of their system than most of green brigade.
I will never vote Tory ever.
But I won't tell anyone to feck off if the do vote that system in their freedom
And its not correct to suggest Celtic football club are anti tory
We were never anti anyone.
Pro freedom of choice. pro education, pro virtue.
Anti nothing except evil
And voting tory does not make you evil
It doesn't make sense to me.
But who the feck am I to dictate anyone else freedom unless they are promoting slavery
And soviet style socialism is slavery to state much more than any tory policy
Tory may seem wicked if you are victim of the system
And I think I am victim of the system
But I will defend any tory voter choice to vote for their choice and ill welcome them at celtic even if they look down their nose at me, which they never ever have to my senses.
But maybe not directed at any individual Docco ?I do think that in the way it was written with the different colour "UC" in Fuck is meant to symbolise that it is their opinion and tbh, they are quite right imo to be able to express it!
Do they have secret oaths and hidden codes to hate tories at Celtic now?I do think that in the way it was written with the different colour "UC" in Fuck is meant to symbolise that it is their opinion and tbh, they are quite right imo to be able to express it!
Do they have secret oaths and hidden codes to hate tories at Celtic now?
Coz id like to know so I can feck off with the tory voters
Is it a requirement to be a Celtic fan?
When was this rule introduced?
Coz I missed it in the last secret meeting
Do you go to the Republican marches? Or just back them through song at games? Rod praising Bawbag didn't sit well but the GB might think they are the soul of Celtic but they ain't.Fuck the Tory scum! Up da RA!!using
Well you have better knowledge on the man than me.I don't think so...just an observation that given UC means Ultras Celtic and it was written in green, perhaps symbolises it...I don't care if it is or isn't tbh
Rod is a racist Tory cunt , that much is fact
See aboveWell you have better knowledge on the man than me.
Would you like to share these factual proofs?
Aw jeez, Dil.........do you realise that they're doing these holographic concerts now?Could turn out to be the longest running thread on the noise
Longer than any of Rods comeback tours
HH
Rich, I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to make an effort in trying to further qualify this comment.If ye are a Tory, ye are my enemy. I think Tories should be harassed and confronted whenever and wherever they show themselves. They are about to lower our living and working conditions, austerity killed tens of thousands of sick, elderly and disabled. The Tory attitude is, if you are not working and making money for Tory businessmen then you are not worthy of life. Your sole purpose in life is to make money for them. Fuck the Tories and those who voted for them or congratulated them. Fuck Rod too.
Obviously as a member of the second generation of the Irish diaspora in Glasgow I too would like to qualify this further; if you gents will permit my contribution to the discourse...Rich, I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to make an effort in trying to further qualify this comment.
For as much as many of us are aware of the wee free stance on the "Irish Problem", there is a similar dictat that goes way back to Churchill's time in the North East which the Tories refer to as "The Dundee Dilemma".
Dundee has been regularly used as a 'testing ground' for what would be largely unpopular policies and the tory party have been proactively trying to destroy the city for over 100-years.
Dundee, due to it's long, long history, has always had the hint of militancy surrounding it. Until quite recently, we also had the second-highest population of the Irish diaspora in the UK. If it wasn't enough to stamp upon our socialist tendency, then it was even more of an incentive when they considered the Dundonian Irish population.
Dundee is on it's knees right now, and it is in that position by design, not by accident!
I agree totally SP.Rich, I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to make an effort in trying to further qualify this comment.
For as much as many of us are aware of the wee free stance on the "Irish Problem", there is a similar dictat that goes way back to Churchill's time in the North East which the Tories refer to as "The Dundee Dilemma".
Dundee has been regularly used as a 'testing ground' for what would be largely unpopular policies and the tory party have been proactively trying to destroy the city for over 100-years.
Dundee, due to it's long, long history, has always had the hint of militancy surrounding it. Until quite recently, we also had the second-highest population of the Irish diaspora in the UK. If it wasn't enough to stamp upon our socialist tendency, then it was even more of an incentive when they considered the Dundonian Irish population.
Dundee is on it's knees right now, and it is in that position by design, not by accident!
If we get a wee bit of peace now and again Niall I dont mind taking the first shift mate.I think feelings remain very raw regarding the election result. I've seen a few people over the last few days step back from conversing on the issue for that very reason.
Not sure the Green Brigade are saying they speak for all fans, in fact they have regularly made it clear they don't.. They speak for themselves as an element amongst the support and they probably also saw an opportunity for a dig back at a pop star to used his own influential position as a Celtic fan to have a pop at them. As such they are entitled to respond imo. It's all a bit lame to be honest.
I have a tiresome Marxist father in law. Maybe we could get yours and mine together in a room and they can talk each other to boredom, while the rest of us have a drink and a laugh and try not to take life so seriously.
We could take alternate weekends if you like. That way we'd both get a breather now and then