TheVerdict88
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Cheers Delta Force.
January Transfer Window Thread
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lcafiero
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In a manner of speaking, though it's time to fish or cut bait with Gutman since he may be getting a deal with FC Cincinnati. Neither can get visas, sort of like Mrs. Elhamed, so they can't play (or in her case, stay) in the country. Go figure.
TheVerdict88
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She could stay but she couldn't work and her kid had serious problems mastering English. That's why she went home.
lcafiero
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Exactly. She's a professional athletic trainer, so why would she stay where she couldn't work? Clearly a flaw on your system there.
TheVerdict88
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No argument there, shameful.
michael duffy
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Atlanta selects Andrew Gutman with No. 1 pick in Re-Entry Draft | Atlanta United FC
Atlanta United today announced it has selected the rights to Andrew Gutman with the No. 1 pick in the 2020 MLS Re-Entry Draft. Gutman, 24, joined FC Cincinnati via loan from Celtic on Aug. 3, 2019. He’s made 29 appearances and 20 starts since joining the club. A four-year standout
TheVerdict88
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I've got a ProvyCheck loan from 1993 still unpaid, I think they are going for that kind of timespan before they trap.
TheVerdict88
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Does he need to be capped for the USA before he can join us? The boy looks good.Atlanta selects Andrew Gutman with No. 1 pick in Re-Entry Draft | Atlanta United FC
Atlanta United today announced it has selected the rights to Andrew Gutman with the No. 1 pick in the 2020 MLS Re-Entry Draft. Gutman, 24, joined FC Cincinnati via loan from Celtic on Aug. 3, 2019. He’s made 29 appearances and 20 starts since joining the club. A four-year standoutwww.atlutd.com
michael duffy
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Think that's the criteria TV
TheVerdict88
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Well if he's first pick in the draft he should get called up soon. Hopefully not to go to Afghanistan though. That would be fucking awful for the poor cunt.
lcafiero
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Check that. Just drafted by Atlanta United in the MLS re-entry draft, but my guess is that he's now a bargaining chip in a deal and he will probably end up at another club that, of course, won't be Celtic.
Atlanta United selects Celtic defender Andrew Gutman with No. 1 pick in Re-Entry Draft
The latest on Celtic defender Andrew Gutman.
Niall J
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I believe Gutman and Perez were signed on the premise they would become full internationals- an indication as to their progress.
England had a system based on criteria, whereby for some reason Scotland was able to allow the initial applications to be rejected but go before a panel that could indicate if they were a special talent and therefore given dispensation- a panel consisting of football professionals in part.
We’ve done that for a few as have other clubs. Morleos is an example.
The strange thing with Gutman and Perez seems to be we were able to sign but they were never able to play, so at what point did they have ‘leave to remain’ accompanied by the sought after ‘right to employment’ perhaps they were given the possibility if certain critera was met so celtic gambled.
There is another section to eligibility criteria that Mrs Elhamed would have been caught. Hatem would have got a work permit. ‘Full recourse or limited leave’. In the case of family you can join on a ‘spousal visa’ but you are not necessarily allowed to work as the advice given to the home office is the dependents will be reliant on the permit holder to provide. An undertaking from the prospective employer is required.
You can then apply when you get here for a right of residence in your own right, but usually you either can’t have it for a specific period of time or you can’t even apply for a time limited period. That’s not as daft as it sounds. Given if you are not a wealthy individual and do not have rights to remain it’s a system open to abuse.
For instance Israeli degree. Glasgow Uni. Brings wife and kids, split up. Wife applies but skills are easily covered by current population. As in Microbioligist, come on in we need them. Or Personal trainer as in Mrs Elhamed. We have thousands and we’ve already rejected many on initial application. Keeps the back door closed. Also the idea is not to allow benefits to be claimed or kids to be in school and create a falsfied back door immigration approach.
One proviso and a worrying one at that. If you are a wife and kids and you have a wealthy partner and you are on only a spousal visa and you suffer say domestic abuse, where do you go? Flawed system as Larry pointed out earlier, but you can see why they do it.
England had a system based on criteria, whereby for some reason Scotland was able to allow the initial applications to be rejected but go before a panel that could indicate if they were a special talent and therefore given dispensation- a panel consisting of football professionals in part.
We’ve done that for a few as have other clubs. Morleos is an example.
The strange thing with Gutman and Perez seems to be we were able to sign but they were never able to play, so at what point did they have ‘leave to remain’ accompanied by the sought after ‘right to employment’ perhaps they were given the possibility if certain critera was met so celtic gambled.
There is another section to eligibility criteria that Mrs Elhamed would have been caught. Hatem would have got a work permit. ‘Full recourse or limited leave’. In the case of family you can join on a ‘spousal visa’ but you are not necessarily allowed to work as the advice given to the home office is the dependents will be reliant on the permit holder to provide. An undertaking from the prospective employer is required.
You can then apply when you get here for a right of residence in your own right, but usually you either can’t have it for a specific period of time or you can’t even apply for a time limited period. That’s not as daft as it sounds. Given if you are not a wealthy individual and do not have rights to remain it’s a system open to abuse.
For instance Israeli degree. Glasgow Uni. Brings wife and kids, split up. Wife applies but skills are easily covered by current population. As in Microbioligist, come on in we need them. Or Personal trainer as in Mrs Elhamed. We have thousands and we’ve already rejected many on initial application. Keeps the back door closed. Also the idea is not to allow benefits to be claimed or kids to be in school and create a falsfied back door immigration approach.
One proviso and a worrying one at that. If you are a wife and kids and you have a wealthy partner and you are on only a spousal visa and you suffer say domestic abuse, where do you go? Flawed system as Larry pointed out earlier, but you can see why they do it.
michael duffy
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Man utd 'Kai Rooney signs contract..........he's 11!!! ffs fitba's mental! 
Hoopy427
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Is that the spawn of Wayne?Man utd 'Kai Rooney signs contract..........he's 11!!! ffs fitba's mental!
michael duffy
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TheVerdict88
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It's the way we roll. Another one for the future......That seldom if ever arrives.We’re interested in 2 players from WBA on loan. 1 of them has only played 1 game this season. Another Ajeti?
TheVerdict88
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Yesterday showed we need players in who can play, especially in CB position and keeper. The fear is we dither as we need them in as soon as the window opens to be there for Mordor. I like the look of the American boy, but it's not just a matter of who, but when. Proceeding with our back line as is, means the 10 is beyond us. Anybody could score against us. Lawell needs for once to move fast. If he does we are still in it, if not....
