Turnbull Threads Merged

The print media, and their broadcast counterparts covering politics, have made exactly the same mistakes as the elected politicians have been guilty of themselves.

They are out of touch with the public perception, mainly because the public are out of touch with public perception.

Using the UK as an example - there is not a distinctive characteristic or viewpoint that would define an ordinary member of the public as being affiliated to any particular political party.

When the country accepted that there was some form of class system, the press could easily identify, through their regular readership, the message that they would have to submit for maximum effect.

There was a genuine influence being exerted and the media moguls were the real power-brokers in this country.

This is still the case to a certain degree, but not due to the intended manipulation of the audience via the message being published, but mainly based on voter apathy and an overall lack of interest.

Political journalists are trying to read an audience that no longer exists.

The country is now splintered into a whole different set of sub-groups, clans and associative groups.

The rise of the right seems more pronounced because they tend to rally more effectively to their cause. The press believe this is indicative of the political climate and pay added attention in their editorials. Consequently - this make them look much more relevant and much more populist than they actually are.

The political media should be constantly asking serious questions of all branches of government. They should not be attempting to make and create these governments.

Instead of being held to account by the media, politicians are being shaped and led by the media.

This is why they are blinkered as to what is happening within the body of the electorate. They rely on exit polls and focused polling demographics to find the preferred flavours, but if the polls are (in many cases) artificial constructs, then they are not gauging the actual opinion of the wider community.

The Scottish Independence referendum stopped being about Scotland and independence. It became a political football for football fans to kick each other with.

Fans of that club were voting to say NO to independence, not because of their fear of the unknown, or because of political debate and reason. They were voting NO because that club affiliated itself with the union and with the loyalty to that brand.

The political commentators did not heed this phenomenon and appeared oblivious to the fact that political choices and decisions had as much to do with political ideology as deep-fried Mars Bars have to do with healthy eating.

In saying that, it is a damning indictment of ourselves that we should ever depend on the media in the first instance. We should be informed enough by our own knowledge and experience to make political choices regardless of what Rupert Murdoch and the corporate world thinks.

A wise contributor to this site recently posted a comment which reminded us all that our forebears fought and died to ensure our right to vote. Current political commentators and editorial staff did not spill their blood to preserve that right.

The fact is, is that political commentators serve no purpose unless they are questioning the poor practices of parliament. It is our own free-will and free-determination that should influence our own political preferences and choices.
 
Spherical Planet said:
The print media, and their broadcast counterparts covering politics, have made exactly the same mistakes as the elected politicians have been guilty of themselves.

They are out of touch with the public perception, mainly because the public are out of touch with public perception.

Using the UK as an example - there is not a distinctive characteristic or viewpoint that would define an ordinary member of the public as being affiliated to any particular political party.

When the country accepted that there was some form of class system, the press could easily identify, through their regular readership, the message that they would have to submit for maximum effect.

There was a genuine influence being exerted and the media moguls were the real power-brokers in this country.

This is still the case to a certain degree, but not due to the intended manipulation of the audience via the message being published, but mainly based on voter apathy and an overall lack of interest.

Political journalists are trying to read an audience that no longer exists.

The country is now splintered into a whole different set of sub-groups, clans and associative groups.

The rise of the right seems more pronounced because they tend to rally more effectively to their cause. The press believe this is indicative of the political climate and pay added attention in their editorials. Consequently - this make them look much more relevant and much more populist than they actually are.

The political media should be constantly asking serious questions of all branches of government. They should not be attempting to make and create these governments.

Instead of being held to account by the media, politicians are being shaped and led by the media.

This is why they are blinkered as to what is happening within the body of the electorate. They rely on exit polls and focused polling demographics to find the preferred flavours, but if the polls are (in many cases) artificial constructs, then they are not gauging the actual opinion of the wider community.

The Scottish Independence referendum stopped being about Scotland and independence. It became a political football for football fans to kick each other with.

Fans of that club were voting to say NO to independence, not because of their fear of the unknown, or because of political debate and reason. They were voting NO because that club affiliated itself with the union and with the loyalty to that brand.

The political commentators did not heed this phenomenon and appeared oblivious to the fact that political choices and decisions had as much to do with political ideology as deep-fried Mars Bars have to do with healthy eating.

In saying that, it is a damning indictment of ourselves that we should ever depend on the media in the first instance. We should be informed enough by our own knowledge and experience to make political choices regardless of what Rupert Murdoch and the corporate world thinks.

A wise contributor to this site recently posted a comment which reminded us all that our forebears fought and died to ensure our right to vote. Current political commentators and editorial staff did not spill their blood to preserve that right.

The fact is, is that political commentators serve no purpose unless they are questioning the poor practices of parliament. It is our own free-will and free-determination that should influence our own political preferences and choices.
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dae ye see whit a mean noo Tarquin! Hail Hail!
 
We have to wait to find out what wages the lad has been offered, but it looks like Celtic have played a blinder here, this let's all the agents know that we are not a soft touch. If I had any early advice for the boy it would be to find another agent, work hard and prove yourself to the club and fans.
 
World class training facilities, chance to go down in history being part of the squad that won 10 in a row, playing in front of the best home support in the world for one of the most famous clubs on the planet, winning trophies and honours.......or Norwich.
Finally, if true, a bit of common sense has prevailed.
 
Benignus said:
We have to wait to find out what wages the lad has been offered, but it looks like Celtic have played a blinder here, this let's all the agents know that we are not a soft touch. If I had any early advice for the boy it would be to find another agent, work hard and prove yourself to the club and fans.
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Yeah, if this all gets sealed soon, then Celtic deserve credit for pitching it perfectly.

I guess that a responsible agent, genuinely looking after the best interests of the player and making sure he doesn't get shafted is a good thing, Ben.

It's those greedy bastards who have their own best interests at their dirty black hearts that bother me.
 
Spherical Planet said:
The print media, and their broadcast counterparts covering politics, have made exactly the same mistakes as the elected politicians have been guilty of themselves.

They are out of touch with the public perception, mainly because the public are out of touch with public perception.

Using the UK as an example - there is not a distinctive characteristic or viewpoint that would define an ordinary member of the public as being affiliated to any particular political party.

When the country accepted that there was some form of class system, the press could easily identify, through their regular readership, the message that they would have to submit for maximum effect.

There was a genuine influence being exerted and the media moguls were the real power-brokers in this country.

This is still the case to a certain degree, but not due to the intended manipulation of the audience via the message being published, but mainly based on voter apathy and an overall lack of interest.

Political journalists are trying to read an audience that no longer exists.

The country is now splintered into a whole different set of sub-groups, clans and associative groups.

The rise of the right seems more pronounced because they tend to rally more effectively to their cause. The press believe this is indicative of the political climate and pay added attention in their editorials. Consequently - this make them look much more relevant and much more populist than they actually are.

The political media should be constantly asking serious questions of all branches of government. They should not be attempting to make and create these governments.

Instead of being held to account by the media, politicians are being shaped and led by the media.

This is why they are blinkered as to what is happening within the body of the electorate. They rely on exit polls and focused polling demographics to find the preferred flavours, but if the polls are (in many cases) artificial constructs, then they are not gauging the actual opinion of the wider community.

The Scottish Independence referendum stopped being about Scotland and independence. It became a political football for football fans to kick each other with.

Fans of that club were voting to say NO to independence, not because of their fear of the unknown, or because of political debate and reason. They were voting NO because that club affiliated itself with the union and with the loyalty to that brand.

The political commentators did not heed this phenomenon and appeared oblivious to the fact that political choices and decisions had as much to do with political ideology as deep-fried Mars Bars have to do with healthy eating.

In saying that, it is a damning indictment of ourselves that we should ever depend on the media in the first instance. We should be informed enough by our own knowledge and experience to make political choices regardless of what Rupert Murdoch and the corporate world thinks.

A wise contributor to this site recently posted a comment which reminded us all that our forebears fought and died to ensure our right to vote. Current political commentators and editorial staff did not spill their blood to preserve that right.

The fact is, is that political commentators serve no purpose unless they are questioning the poor practices of parliament. It is our own free-will and free-determination that should influence our own political preferences and choices.
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And while I rambled on and let my thumbs get numb, I missed the crux of my argument.

Dr. Pat asked us to look at the comparison that can be made between political commentary and current sports reporting. The comparison is evident and all too apparent.

Sports 'reporters' have also failed to grasp that public perception is unsure of itself at the moment, but they've made another fundamental error by failing to recognise that the landscape is changing too.

Younger elements of sevcos 'traditional' support base are not so inclined to be as blindly loyal to their establishment club (whatever guise it comes in these days) as they were prone to in years gone by.

That doesn't mean that they necessarily gravitate towards Celtic (although some will), it just means that they are more likely to adopt one of the EPL clubs who have bought their seat at the top table.

I'd wager there's a good deal more Chelsea, Man City, or Liverpool fans in these 'traditional' hotbeds than there were 25-years ago when Defunct FC were in the process of cheating their way to success.

The Scottish press have failed to grasp this notion and they wonder why their circulation is falling.

Every media outlet (including television) has struggled in the digital revolution, but it's not only because of the different platforms that print media has suffered, it is principally a result of one-eyed, subjective reporting which has seen their readership dwindle to the point of irrelevance.

The quality of investigative journalism and the concept of journalistic integrity and full exposure has also destroyed one of the last bastions of the Scottish institutions. There are no reporters prepared to ask the relevant questions or scrape beneath the surface for a truth which is barely hidden.

On their own doorstep, Scottish sports reporters have an incredible story, which, if it occurred in Anerica - would virtually guarantee a Pulitzer Prize.

A story with all the main components of a modern-day crime thriller, a political intrigue piece and a legal drama - which could be a career-defining scoop for the individual brave enough to take it on.

Unfortunately - in a country with a not-too-spectacular history of sportswriting, this present batch of 'journalists' have set a new low for the relatively low watermark that was previously set.

They have failed to grasp the collective perception of the Scottish population and have pandered to the lowest common denominators among the klan base.

The irony being is that the klan base is so narrow-minded and singular in their optics, that the efforts of the journalists to appease them are still never close to being enough.

I don't know if it is an editorial manifesto, or if it is just sheer prejudice and belligerence. It may just be the simple fact that their own preferences and extracurricular activities will not allow them to promote themselves to the level of journalistic integrity.

Whatever it is, their failure to grasp the rapidly changing face of Scotland means that they are sleepwalking into oblivion, not unlike the hulking pretence of a football club they all seem to favour.

They won't be missed.......either of them.
 
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