Pragmatic Solutions to the virus

The Galway shawl said:
Your wide enough to know believe fuck all from governments mate. Statistics no chance! This is bigger than what the fuckers are saying believe me! Not paranoid or into conspiracy theories! Governmental Contol is paramount in these things. Stay safe with yours.HH
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Yep you are spot on, the gov do not put billions into nothing and i mean nothing, they are facing a catastrophe and they are lost in it, this realluy is unchartered territory, distance from people when outdoors is paramount, gloves and snoodpeople can hear you so no need to to be at risk from someone elses slabbering or sneezing. And of course play it safe yourself.
 
boab1916 said:
Yep you are spot on, the gov do not put billions into nothing and i mean nothing, they are facing a catastrophe and they are lost in it, this realluy is unchartered territory, distance from people when outdoors is paramount, gloves and snoodpeople can hear you so no need to to be at risk from someone elses slabbering or sneezing. And of course play it safe yourself.
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This government where and are way behind the curve think am mental look at Taiwan well ahead of it(sars) cheers mate be safe! HH.
 
oj17 said:
Bhoys,

Lets follow the science.

The reality of this virus is that unfortunately the older community and people with health conditions are at risk - fact - this is similar to normal in seasonal flu. Some older people have had the virus and recovered - fact - this is similar to normal in seasonal flu.

Younger people, especially children have little risk to the virus - fact - this is similar normal in seasonal flu.

Please check the above facts before being a keyboard warrior. Now, and I agree it is true that this virus is not seasonal flu - fact!

So as from the facts above - fit, athletic sportsmen and women are not at risk from either seasonal flu or coronavirus - in very rare case they might get ill or even a death may occur if they have unknown health problems. There is no significant danger of a fit athletic team of 11 players playing each other - they even may catch the virus - which will have little impact other than a few days coughing/fever for that player.

The danger is of course this player transmits to other people who are in the vulnrable bracket. This is what must be prevented and the current advice on self-isolation covers this.

Whats the difference between me going to work today to fix aeroplanes with 30 other staff and meeting customers , than a squad of players meeting another squad of players and having 90 minutes of football. - absolutely nothing. Precautions can still be taken if one of those players has symptoms and self-isolates - protecting the older members of the public who are at risk

After all above info - we could still take excessive precautions - games to played behind closed doors - especially if this is done a training grounds where staff/travel and security is at a minimum - 3 games a week is easily possible - so lets get this season done.
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Having read all your comments, I have to say that's the greatest pile of shite I've read yet. Do you really give a fuck whether football is played at the minute or not?
Your ramblings sound very similar to that clown in Westminster.
Have you watched any of the videos of people suffering from this cunt of a disease? It's pure fuckin torture.
If you're being told to stay at home, then fuckin stay at home.
You say sadly older people will die, what if it's your father, mother, uncle, aunt or grandparent? That's fine by you, because they're old?
It's only people with underlying conditions you say. My son has asthma, so that's ok for you? My brother isn't well at the minute. Is that ok?
Tell that to the parents of the Spanish football coach who died because he had a completely curable disease in lukemia, but couldn't fight this fuckin thing off.
No harm to ye, but you should think before you spout your selfish shite.
Loose words are like a loose cannon!
I sincerely hope that neither you or anyone belonging to you contracts this horrible cunt of a disease.
 
The Shamrock said:
I've never had any adverse effects from the flu vaccine and get sick of folk saying it gave them the flu but it isn't a live vaccine so it can't do that but you're right enough we never get told the truth.
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yeah i believed that to, but this year was different and the ban on giving out antibiotics at my gps changed as everyone who was back in with congestion of the lungs was gettin written script after script

so what changed
 
oj17 said:
The spanish flu is a quite a bit different - medical treatment is obviosly much more advanced than in 1918 - the misconception of prescribing aspirin could possibly attribute to quite a few deaths. Sadly in the current virus and - we will have our internet 'cures' which will cause more harm than good. The current example of the latest social nonsense is the rumour that ibroprofen make the virus worse - this has no current scientific fact.
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Doctors are saying anti-inflammatory drugs as ibrofen should cease if you contract the virus but otherwise take as normal.
 
oj17 said:
The spanish flu is a quite a bit different - medical treatment is obviosly much more advanced than in 1918 - the misconception of prescribing aspirin could possibly attribute to quite a few deaths. Sadly in the current virus and - we will have our internet 'cures' which will cause more harm than good. The current example of the latest social nonsense is the rumour that ibroprofen make the virus worse - this has no current scientific fact.
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I have to take you to task over the ibuprofen comment.

As you rightly say, aspirin, an anti-inflammatory drug exacerbated the impact of Spanish flu on some patients. Anti-inflammatories suppress the activities of white blood cells (the foot soldiers of our immune system) thus making it harder for the body to fight off infection. Ibuprofen is also an anti-inflammatory and has a similar impact on our immune systems. Although there is no science linking this directly with Covid19, that is due to the fact that Covid19 is so new. However, extrapolating from what we do know, it is not an unreasonable claim to make.
Currently there are no known drug remedies for Covid19. Any medical treatment merely targets the symptoms while the patient's immune system fights off the infection. Anything which impairs the immune system is not a good idea. Non steroid anti-inflammatory drugs should be avoided in any case of viral infection. While they suppress the symptoms, they delay the eventual recovery.
 
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