January Transfer Window Thread

Bridie Bhoy said:
Well I am comforted to see a change of name hasn't resulted in a change in outlook. In MY opinion I think Dembele, Soro, Turnbull, Okoflex, Connell, Welsh, Harper and Henderson are fantastic young players with the potential to develop into Celtic regulars - but only if they are given a chance to develop by getting some carefully managed game time.

You might think they are fuck all and you are entitled to your opinion. I will stick to my belief. Unfortunately IMO I fear you will be proven right not due to a lack ability but purely because they are being ignored due to mismanagement and will probably leave us without getting a chance!
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Aye bring thru the the young ones u mention dont see the point in spending big this window better to get a plan the gether for the summer with the new man who ever that is HH
 
Interesting to read Gordon Strachan's comments on how Celtic should go about their business in this window. Beware of panic buying he says. Yip, good advice I would think. However, he also suggests the board has to make a decision on Lenny before they sanction spending on players. Suggesting, more or less, the club should think long term.
 
Frank Owen said:
Interesting to read Gordon Strachan's comments on how Celtic should go about their business in this window. Beware of panic buying he says. Yip, good advice I would think. However, he also suggests the board has to make a decision on Lenny before they sanction spending on players. Suggesting, more or less, the club should think long term.
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Welcome Frank. I had actually forgotten how large a turn around we had when Strachan won his 3rd title from the cheats. The difference is himand his support team coached players and improved them whereas I can see little evidence of that at Parkhead these days.

He is correct - we must think what is best for the club in the long-term. These are not easy decisions to make but surely one of the very highest paid CEOs in British football can do his day job and make that decision!

I think/hope the handful of wantaway players are sold though we will only recoup a fraction of what they were worth this time last year. I don't think we need to spend stupid money either bringing in new players. I'd rather spend an extra couple of £million on a superior coaching team who will improve and develop our fantastic young players who are chomping at the bit to get some action. This will require some investment to recover from the costly errors we have made recently, but it should not be unaffordable for us if they do it properly.
 
Hello again BB, I would have no problem if the club decided to take the route you describe above. Not so sure the majority of our fellow Celtic fans would agree though. We live in times where success simply has to be instant. The trophy haul from the Millenium until now is really the stuff of legend. Comes with a price though. A significant number of us think it's always going to be that way. As if it's some kind of normal. Well, as someone who's had the privilege of being able to call myself a Celtic supporter for most of my 72 years on this planet I am acutely aware of how wrong that is. Blooding young players is always more satisfying, but it really does need the support to buy into the process. Maybe a generational/societal thing, but I'm not too sure enough of us would go along with it. Also, the days of young players hanging around for most of their careers are long gone. KT ?
 
Celtic Ghostie said:
I would settle for two solid SPL centre backs, preferably Gallagher and Porteous and big Cosgrove up front as a plan B
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The 2 defenders aye gallagher especially I know why ur saying cosgrove but klimala could be that player I think that boys goin to come onto his own wen eddie goes cause ajeti was a waste of money hes not gonny be our main striker ever more wasted millions that's 10 on the keeper n striker who the fuck scouts these guys 🤪
 
Bridie Bhoy said:
Welcome Frank. I had actually forgotten how large a turn around we had when Strachan won his 3rd title from the cheats. The difference is himand his support team coached players and improved them whereas I can see little evidence of that at Parkhead these days.

He is correct - we must think what is best for the club in the long-term. These are not easy decisions to make but surely one of the very highest paid CEOs in British football can do his day job and make that decision!

I think/hope the handful of wantaway players are sold though we will only recoup a fraction of what they were worth this time last year. I don't think we need to spend stupid money either bringing in new players. I'd rather spend an extra couple of £million on a superior coaching team who will improve and develop our fantastic young players who are chomping at the bit to get some action. This will require some investment to recover from the costly errors we have made recently, but it should not be unaffordable for us if they do it properly.
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I agree with you and Frank that now is the perfect time to bring on our young players. No need to spend an extra couple of million. By the time we replace Kennedy and Strachan jnr. the gap would not be significant financially.
 
Frank Owen said:
Hello again BB, I would have no problem if the club decided to take the route you describe above. Not so sure the majority of our fellow Celtic fans would agree though. We live in times where success simply has to be instant. The trophy haul from the Millenium until now is really the stuff of legend. Comes with a price though. A significant number of us think it's always going to be that way. As if it's some kind of normal. Well, as someone who's had the privilege of being able to call myself a Celtic supporter for most of my 72 years on this planet I am acutely aware of how wrong that is. Blooding young players is always more satisfying, but it really does need the support to buy into the process. Maybe a generational/societal thing, but I'm not too sure enough of us would go along with it. Also, the days of young players hanging around for most of their careers are long gone. KT ?
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You are correct - there is a desire for instant success these days. I'm not even sure of developing players and them hanging around these days (James Forrest & hopefully CalMac are probably exceptions to this). I think most players have a shelf life of 3-5 years at the top before they want to move on these days (assisted by agents who make more money from transfers than contract extensions). As fans we either have to accept this will happen (and it is our business model) otherwise too many of us will repeatedly get hacked off when "disloyal" players start asking for the transfer to England that we used to our advantage when persuading them to sign for us. Where we are failing in this strategy is that we become over-reliant on these players and when the big money move comes we don't have their replacement on the conveyor belt ready to step into their places so we too often fail in the early European qualifying rounds.

At the moment I believe we have at least half a dozen outstanding players with the potential to make it big so we need to be getting them some game time.
 
Frank Owen said:
Hello again BB, I would have no problem if the club decided to take the route you describe above. Not so sure the majority of our fellow Celtic fans would agree though. We live in times where success simply has to be instant. The trophy haul from the Millenium until now is really the stuff of legend. Comes with a price though. A significant number of us think it's always going to be that way. As if it's some kind of normal. Well, as someone who's had the privilege of being able to call myself a Celtic supporter for most of my 72 years on this planet I am acutely aware of how wrong that is. Blooding young players is always more satisfying, but it really does need the support to buy into the process. Maybe a generational/societal thing, but I'm not too sure enough of us would go along with it. Also, the days of young players hanging around for most of their careers are long gone. KT ?
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Smashin' post Frank (y)
 
Frank Owen said:
Interesting to read Gordon Strachan's comments on how Celtic should go about their business in this window. Beware of panic buying he says. Yip, good advice I would think. However, he also suggests the board has to make a decision on Lenny before they sanction spending on players. Suggesting, more or less, the club should think long term.
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WGS was the man !! . The most under rated Celtic manager of my lifetime
 
Celtic Ghostie said:
I would settle for two solid SPL centre backs, preferably Gallagher and Porteous and big Cosgrove up front as a plan B
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If Duffy isn't suitable to how Celtic play then neither is Gallagher. Gallagher is a cheap, and poorer, version of Duffy. Both are good playing in a team that defends deep and they don't need to do anything with the ball other than clear it.
Porteous on the other hand does look to have the potential. A big hard B but he can play a bit as well and not pedestrian like the other 2. He can still be a bit rash in the tackle but a good coach (hopefully we have one soon) could help sort that out.
The only SPFL striker we should be even considering is Nisbett of Hibs, and even then not sure if he's good enough yet. Maybe our illustrious manager should give the 2 strikers he's signed in the last year a run of games. They only cost about £7m or thereabouts.
 
I personally would like us to use this window to get rid of as many of the want aways as we can before there value drops even more with there contracts running down.
Wee gs is spot on as recruiting can not be to high of a priority until the future of lenny is decided one way or the other.
We can't be wasting any more money on players that a new manager may not rate.
Saying that with the injury to Jules now means a CB can not be ignored either and if we were to cash in on ajer would leave us in all types of trouble.
Believe Welsh needs to be given an opportunity and finding that CB who can bring the stability needed to the defence and could be good enough for European football. Forget the name of the lad at Preston and don't know anything about him but was mentioned in the summer so would he be able to do the job?
 
The Shamrock said:
I generally agree with you about PL but at least he hasn't run us into liquidation and given us zombie status like the vegetables masquerading as Rainjurrs. He didn't lose the keys to the gaff!
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The way he's goin about his business I'm not so sure about the future given the pandemic. Revenues have plummeted for everybody. Every penny is a prisoner. Our recent accounts confirm the downward spiral. Even still being in the Europa league would have helped. Where's the money coming from? I'm just waiting for the announcement of players being sold to keep the books balanced.
 
John nó said:
I personally would like us to use this window to get rid of as many of the want aways as we can before there value drops even more with there contracts running down.
Wee gs is spot on as recruiting can not be to high of a priority until the future of lenny is decided one way or the other.
We can't be wasting any more money on players that a new manager may not rate.
Saying that with the injury to Jules now means a CB can not be ignored either and if we were to cash in on ajer would leave us in all types of trouble.
Believe Welsh needs to be given an opportunity and finding that CB who can bring the stability needed to the defence and could be good enough for European football. Forget the name of the lad at Preston and don't know anything about him but was mentioned in the summer so would he be able to do the job?
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Maybe we could give Welsh a run out...he hasn't looked to bad times I’ve seen him. OK he needs a bit of 1st team experience but he’s the same age as Frimpy and if he gets game time why not SW? As a famous figure once said...If you’re good enough you’re old enough.
 
Steviebhoy2 said:
The way he's goin about his business I'm not so sure about the future given the pandemic. Revenues have plummeted for everybody. Every penny is a prisoner. Our recent accounts confirm the downward spiral. Even still being in the Europa league would have helped. Where's the money coming from? I'm just waiting for the announcement of players being sold to keep the books balanced.
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I still don't believe we need to strengthen as much as we think Steviebhoy2.
Of course the CB position is a priority but as things stand we still can be overloaded in many positions even with the want aways out of the door. It may leave us short on experience, so a good coaching set has to be a priority if we intend to stick with the quality youngsters that are readily available. Bring in that little bit of experience and we will still be in a fairly strong position for remainder of this season and not to bad for next and the Bank still intact
 
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