What Message Would You Like to Send to Peter Lawwell and the Celtic Board

TET you say "what is their plan" however in your earlier post you doubted their " manifesto"?
their manifesto or better word is their ethos is general

not specific and its general in a way that ambiguous on all fronts

they have no real manifesto

just gripes

no solutions that are viable

just geez your money for a block vote but you dont have clue what they voting for

except you are part of the trust

join the trust

we want change

give us your vote

ask specific question they hit you with research it yourself my opinion is they are shite?

why

cause their shite

what you gonna change

whatever needs changing

what is that?

we need sustainability in the league but we need to invest more in celtic?

Eh?

Its all about giving individuals more power.

Eh?

But you want block vote?

thats opposite of individual choice

Aye but the constitution requires you to submit your individuality for the block vote made by no leader cause we have none. And the vote we want is change?

what change

I refer you to paragraph 13.567 of the constitution of the referendum of trust voters in season 2004 where its very clear what we represent in the 5000 page part 3 of the party of the first part

and if you cant be arsed reading that then why ask me?

im just a member?

who knows what they will be voting for

just geez your money and accept the block vote

its about your individual rights to freedom of choice

except its what we say

collectively that matters


we need better players

NOW
 
Teams from "Diddy leagues" all over Europe, with unknown managers, consistently beat the 3rd, 4th and sometimes even the 1st and 2nd best teams in scotland in Europe every season, on a smaller budget and wage...so to pretend like the world is empty of better players and managers than we have is just mad. I'd ask Pete what happened to our scouting team. And ask him why he would rather spend millions on lights and a dead pitch than put that money into finding the BEST young talent out there....and I dont mean watching some YouTube clips or sending our scouts up to killie or motherwell.
 
Teams from "Diddy leagues" all over Europe, with unknown managers, consistently beat the 3rd, 4th and sometimes even the 1st and 2nd best teams in scotland in Europe every season, on a smaller budget and wage...so to pretend like the world is empty of better players and managers than we have is just mad. I'd ask Pete what happened to our scouting team. And ask him why he would rather spend millions on lights and a dead pitch than put that money into finding the BEST young talent out there....and I dont mean watching some YouTube clips or sending our scouts up to killie or motherwell.
they might be on lower wages there but to come here they want mega wages

And it usually turns out they aren't good at the pressure involved here no matter what wage they get
 
they might be on lower wages there but to come here they want mega wages

And it usually turns out they aren't good at the pressure involved here no matter what wage they get

Not like you to use words like "might" TET but seeing as we are allowed I'd say they might just come here for a bit more than they are on, they might think it's a good stepping stone to the prem and they might be amazing. There are millions of players worldwide just waiting to be found. There are managers world wide who could do a better job than lennon.
.what I'm saying is I'd ask Peter to put more effort into finding them. Instead of relying on YouTube and watching sportscene to find his signings
 
Not like you to use words like "might" TET but seeing as we are allowed I'd say they might just come here for a bit more than they are on, they might think it's a good stepping stone to the prem and they might be amazing. There are millions of players worldwide just waiting to be found. There are managers world wide who could do a better job than lennon.
.what I'm saying is I'd ask Peter to put more effort into finding them. Instead of relying on YouTube and watching sportscene to find his signings
are you suggesting club should sign some biscuit tin signings?

And what makes you think they scout like you suggest?
 
are you suggesting club should sign some biscuit tin signings?

And what makes you think they scout like you suggest?

I know you are playing devil's advocate most of the time, and you know full well I don't know how we scout but our scouting has been terrible. Look how many duds we have signed in the recent years. And no, I'm not suggesting we sign biscuit tin signing but what have we been doing recently?? Wasting loads of money on failures. I'd ask Peter to put more cash into that side of the business. Proper scouting.
 
Are you suggesting that there is no players or managers, outside the top 5 leagues if England, France, Germany, Spain and Italy that are better than what we have?? I'm not asking for the next Messi or Neymar, the big teams will get them and I know celtics level in the transfer market. But there are better players than eli or Taylor out there who I'm sure, if we had a better scouting set up, we could find and convince to come to celtic.
 
Look at the Portuguese, Dutch, or Belgium leagues. No LBs in any of those leagues that are better than taylor 🤔🤔🤔 and the cash we could offer would roughly be the same or slightly more I'd imagine...but then I'm only using my Imagination and that's not allowed. But, unfortunately, all my sources in the scouting, marketing and player transfer world are still on holiday 😁😁
 
I'll word my question better so Peter understands I don't have the answers and I'm but a humble fan who doesn't have millions behind me to do the work myself....I'd ask Peter does he believe the board have funded the Celtic scouting system well and does he think there is anything he could do better in that department....I'd then suggest he do better and if he goes all TET on me and asked me how I believe he can do his job better I'd suggest that for the millions of pounds he earns he shouldn't be asking an idiot like me how to do his job 😁
 
Look at the Portuguese, Dutch, or Belgium leagues. No LBs in any of those leagues that are better than taylor 🤔🤔🤔 and the cash we could offer would roughly be the same or slightly more I'd imagine...but then I'm only using my Imagination and that's not allowed. But, unfortunately, all my sources in the scouting, marketing and player transfer world are still on holiday 😁😁
You think Taylor is bad left back?

Why?

You imagine there are better than him?

Is Laxalt better?

Was Boli?


Are they on same wages as Taylor?

Which players did you have in mind?

What happens when we offer him wage same as Taylor and he says no thanks

Do we offer more?

Do we look for someone in the biscuit tin factory coz everybody seems better than our international left back?
 
I'll word my question better so Peter understands I don't have the answers and I'm but a humble fan who doesn't have millions behind me to do the work myself....I'd ask Peter does he believe the board have funded the Celtic scouting system well and does he think there is anything he could do better in that department....I'd then suggest he do better and if he goes all TET on me and asked me how I believe he can do his job better I'd suggest that for the millions of pounds he earns he shouldn't be asking an idiot like me how to do his job 😁
no

im saying to get them you need massive resources beyond our budget

because they see celtic as a giant club and a big pay day for them

And even if Jose Mourinho was willing to come work for free and could convince players to come for low wages

if he didn't win against sevco and win league he would be shite.
 
You think Taylor is bad left back?

Why?

You imagine there are better than him?

Is Laxalt better?

Was Boli?


Are they on same wages as Taylor?

Which players did you have in mind?

What happens when we offer him wage same as Taylor and he says no thanks

Do we offer more?

Do we look for someone in the biscuit tin factory coz everybody seems better than our international left back?

Do you believe there isn't a better LB in the world than Taylor???
 
I'll word my question better so Peter understands I don't have the answers and I'm but a humble fan who doesn't have millions behind me to do the work myself....I'd ask Peter does he believe the board have funded the Celtic scouting system well and does he think there is anything he could do better in that department....I'd then suggest he do better and if he goes all TET on me and asked me how I believe he can do his job better I'd suggest that for the millions of pounds he earns he shouldn't be asking an idiot like me how to do his job 😁
Do you believe there isn't a better LB in the world than Taylor???
eh?

yeah ill have Tierney back please

are you sacking Taylor first or keeping him in the background to watch the new Tierney?

can we afford the better players wage demands?

how do you get the better player if he not happy with the wage you offered?

what happens if he turns out to be shite at celtic?
 
eh?

yeah ill have Tierney back please

are you sacking Taylor first or keeping him in the background to watch the new Tierney?

can we afford the better players wage demands?

how do you get the better player if he not happy with the wage you offered?

what happens if he turns out to be shite at celtic?
here's a list of Belgian league defenders and their price before negotiations

why ones have you heard of?

Are any better than Taylor?

 
ok

sounds great

but those terms suggest he might be worth taking massive gambles and ratcheting up debts

cause he would get his money back anyway

But he doesnt

so when celtic make bumper returns he gets 3.8 percent either way


So no real incentive to horde the cash either


but if he loves celtic

he will be hiring the best net present value investors he can find.

NPV

what's that

its a risk metric to decide if an investment is a risk worth taking

does it cost more than it returns

And over his tenure Lawell has been brilliant NPV analyst

despite his many flaws and I detest his face when I see it, he makes good NPV calls

football market is in bubble mode.

So really most investments are instantly npv negative.

but if bubble continues you can get your money back when next dude pays over the odds in hope bubble continues


but like the famous bubbles in past

when they burst and they always do the people in control of bursting bubble all get off the bubble just in time and everybody else collapses.


Now these are just tip of iceberg hidden problems but they are very very real.
Sorry TET but as much as I appreciate your views and opinions there is far too much negativity surrounding them.
When opinions or views are expressed you will bombard them with untold questions and far to much conspiracy theories as to why they can't or wouldn't work, and yet no answers to solving the problems within the club that is so close to our heart.
Of course none of us are in a position to make these decisions regarding the future of the club and yet we have no voice whatsoever in which direction the club are currently heading when so many things are wrong to fulfill the success we crave within the European competitions, dominating the Scottish competitions is great for our history but we will hold all the records for domestic honours in a few years time regardless of serco, newco or oldco or whatever title you give them scum bastards.
We all long to getting back to been a challenge in Europe and this current set up of PL and lenny, imo will not be possible all the time they have control of the footballing side of the club, the side that means the most to the supporters.
So how can we expect change all the while we have no say in the decision process?
I do believe strongly that the business plan of our club, especially this season of all seasons has been about the survival of the scum more so than our dreams of the 10, hence the anger within the support.
That as a business plan was never going to be accepted by our support and as far as many of us are concerned people have to be held accountable as it is seen as an act of tresion for which the biggest scapegoat will be PL and for one he will always be possibly be remembered for.
As a club i struggle to see how we can move forward with PL pulling the strings and the shortcomings of lenny as a manager and a backroom staff who seem to be very limited in delivering the success we crave within Europe.
Of course a much business plan is desperately needed imo, and I do believe a proper director of football is needed along with a more modern manager who can prepare our team far better out on the training pitch along with good coaching staff has become essential now.
I also believe a director of football can operate with as a guess a 50m budget per season allowing to cover wages.
We already have at least that budget available with the sales of the want away players.
This in turn would reduce the wage bill and along with the overpaid loan signings who have been a disaster and bought no value for money and at a guess much discontent within the changing room.
Lennys biggest shortfall has been his reluctance of giving youth a chance over experience. We have seen this in the signings of Ajeti and Barkas as just having international experience does not mean that you have the right temperment to cut it at Celtic or even in Scottish football.
We still have currently great young 1st team players who will possibly move on to bigger incomes in time as you are right we can't compete with the money on offer down but then for so many of them just staying in the EPL is success where for us been involved in European competition and a guarantee of been involved in domestic honours in front of the best supporters in world football. I do believe that the right director of football can make us an easy sell in order to further there careers.
We also have to sustain a level of stability in regards not every player has to be looked upon as having a sell on value as there are many players available who making a move to celtic would be there biggest career move and these players need to be identified better within our scouting network again overseen by director of football.
We are blessed to still have much great potential young players available for which can be integrated into the 1st team set up and with far better coaching and opportunities given will always keep the conveyer belt moving in potential players sales, we already have possibilitiey 50m plus on frimps, Turnbull and Soro as of current.
We can't ignore the conveyer belt of young talent as this is such a lifeline to the club when you can't compete with the money on offer down south.
I still believe PL has not fought for the right of us having a 2nd team available playing at championship level as they are more than good enough to hold there own. I do believe it may be a role Scott brown could fill as any bullying some of these hammer throwers want to dish out would they be as brave with less cameras around and a tunnel to see how brave the bully was?
Are we entitled to have a second team available in Scotland? Of course we are as we have produced more players with celtic connections than any other and will always remain so for the foreseeable future and give a much needed financial aid to lower clubs, and better development opportunities for our younger players and with only a gate of maybe 5 to 10k would pay for itself with a potential profit.
I am disappointed in PL for not looking into this venture and persuing it at all as it seems a no brainer to me.
Although I am glad the foundations of the club are still in place just now, and will give credit to PL and lenny in doing so, I also believe that the pair of them are not capable of building on the foundations that are in place.
So TET these are only my own personal opinions but before you bombard we with untold questions about why you don't think that they are possible and maybe your own opinions on solutions would be more welcome than that of conspiracy around secret tax havens and accounts for which many of us have no interest in whatever.
Sorry for such a long post as far to many questions asked without a chance to debate
 
eh?

yeah ill have Tierney back please

are you sacking Taylor first or keeping him in the background to watch the new Tierney?

can we afford the better players wage demands?

how do you get the better player if he not happy with the wage you offered?

what happens if he turns out to be shite at celtic?

I never said I'd sack Taylor. I never said taylor was shite. Not like you TET to put words in my mouth. I'm saying there are better players out there. I'm saying if we had a better scouting system we may find them. We don't seem to have a good scouting system. I say that because we have signed a lot of shite. Having better scouts would maybe prevent, not completely stop, but prevent that from happening. Not really sure why you feel the need to make a point in the constant questioning of people questions to be honest. The thread is asking fans what they message we would sent to Peter not what solutions we have for him. Its his job to run Celtic the best way possible. I'd ask him does he believe our scouting set up is as good as it could be. I'm not a scout. If he asked me what I would do better I'd tell him I'm not a director of a football club, nor am I a scout.
 
here's a list of Belgian league defenders and their price before negotiations

why ones have you heard of?

Are any better than Taylor?


Again. Not a scout. Not my job. I'd ask Peter if HE as director believes the scouting set up is as good as it could be.
 
Sorry TET but as much as I appreciate your views and opinions there is far too much negativity surrounding them.
When opinions or views are expressed you will bombard them with untold questions and far to much conspiracy theories as to why they can't or wouldn't work, and yet no answers to solving the problems within the club that is so close to our heart.
Of course none of us are in a position to make these decisions regarding the future of the club and yet we have no voice whatsoever in which direction the club are currently heading when so many things are wrong to fulfill the success we crave within the European competitions, dominating the Scottish competitions is great for our history but we will hold all the records for domestic honours in a few years time regardless of serco, newco or oldco or whatever title you give them scum bastards.
We all long to getting back to been a challenge in Europe and this current set up of PL and lenny, imo will not be possible all the time they have control of the footballing side of the club, the side that means the most to the supporters.
So how can we expect change all the while we have no say in the decision process?
I do believe strongly that the business plan of our club, especially this season of all seasons has been about the survival of the scum more so than our dreams of the 10, hence the anger within the support.
That as a business plan was never going to be accepted by our support and as far as many of us are concerned people have to be held accountable as it is seen as an act of tresion for which the biggest scapegoat will be PL and for one he will always be possibly be remembered for.
As a club i struggle to see how we can move forward with PL pulling the strings and the shortcomings of lenny as a manager and a backroom staff who seem to be very limited in delivering the success we crave within Europe.
Of course a much business plan is desperately needed imo, and I do believe a proper director of football is needed along with a more modern manager who can prepare our team far better out on the training pitch along with good coaching staff has become essential now.
I also believe a director of football can operate with as a guess a 50m budget per season allowing to cover wages.
We already have at least that budget available with the sales of the want away players.
This in turn would reduce the wage bill and along with the overpaid loan signings who have been a disaster and bought no value for money and at a guess much discontent within the changing room.
Lennys biggest shortfall has been his reluctance of giving youth a chance over experience. We have seen this in the signings of Ajeti and Barkas as just having international experience does not mean that you have the right temperment to cut it at Celtic or even in Scottish football.
We still have currently great young 1st team players who will possibly move on to bigger incomes in time as you are right we can't compete with the money on offer down but then for so many of them just staying in the EPL is success where for us been involved in European competition and a guarantee of been involved in domestic honours in front of the best supporters in world football. I do believe that the right director of football can make us an easy sell in order to further there careers.
We also have to sustain a level of stability in regards not every player has to be looked upon as having a sell on value as there are many players available who making a move to celtic would be there biggest career move and these players need to be identified better within our scouting network again overseen by director of football.
We are blessed to still have much great potential young players available for which can be integrated into the 1st team set up and with far better coaching and opportunities given will always keep the conveyer belt moving in potential players sales, we already have possibilitiey 50m plus on frimps, Turnbull and Soro as of current.
We can't ignore the conveyer belt of young talent as this is such a lifeline to the club when you can't compete with the money on offer down south.
I still believe PL has not fought for the right of us having a 2nd team available playing at championship level as they are more than good enough to hold there own. I do believe it may be a role Scott brown could fill as any bullying some of these hammer throwers want to dish out would they be as brave with less cameras around and a tunnel to see how brave the bully was?
Are we entitled to have a second team available in Scotland? Of course we are as we have produced more players with celtic connections than any other and will always remain so for the foreseeable future and give a much needed financial aid to lower clubs, and better development opportunities for our younger players and with only a gate of maybe 5 to 10k would pay for itself with a potential profit.
I am disappointed in PL for not looking into this venture and persuing it at all as it seems a no brainer to me.
Although I am glad the foundations of the club are still in place just now, and will give credit to PL and lenny in doing so, I also believe that the pair of them are not capable of building on the foundations that are in place.
So TET these are only my own personal opinions but before you bombard we with untold questions about why you don't think that they are possible and maybe your own opinions on solutions would be more welcome than that of conspiracy around secret tax havens and accounts for which many of us have no interest in whatever.
Sorry for such a long post as far to many questions asked without a chance to debate
Explain yer self 😂😂😂
 
Sorry TET but as much as I appreciate your views and opinions there is far too much negativity surrounding them.
When opinions or views are expressed you will bombard them with untold questions and far to much conspiracy theories as to why they can't or wouldn't work, and yet no answers to solving the problems within the club that is so close to our heart.
Of course none of us are in a position to make these decisions regarding the future of the club and yet we have no voice whatsoever in which direction the club are currently heading when so many things are wrong to fulfill the success we crave within the European competitions, dominating the Scottish competitions is great for our history but we will hold all the records for domestic honours in a few years time regardless of serco, newco or oldco or whatever title you give them scum bastards.
We all long to getting back to been a challenge in Europe and this current set up of PL and lenny, imo will not be possible all the time they have control of the footballing side of the club, the side that means the most to the supporters.
So how can we expect change all the while we have no say in the decision process?
I do believe strongly that the business plan of our club, especially this season of all seasons has been about the survival of the scum more so than our dreams of the 10, hence the anger within the support.
That as a business plan was never going to be accepted by our support and as far as many of us are concerned people have to be held accountable as it is seen as an act of tresion for which the biggest scapegoat will be PL and for one he will always be possibly be remembered for.
As a club i struggle to see how we can move forward with PL pulling the strings and the shortcomings of lenny as a manager and a backroom staff who seem to be very limited in delivering the success we crave within Europe.
Of course a much business plan is desperately needed imo, and I do believe a proper director of football is needed along with a more modern manager who can prepare our team far better out on the training pitch along with good coaching staff has become essential now.
I also believe a director of football can operate with as a guess a 50m budget per season allowing to cover wages.
We already have at least that budget available with the sales of the want away players.
This in turn would reduce the wage bill and along with the overpaid loan signings who have been a disaster and bought no value for money and at a guess much discontent within the changing room.
Lennys biggest shortfall has been his reluctance of giving youth a chance over experience. We have seen this in the signings of Ajeti and Barkas as just having international experience does not mean that you have the right temperment to cut it at Celtic or even in Scottish football.
We still have currently great young 1st team players who will possibly move on to bigger incomes in time as you are right we can't compete with the money on offer down but then for so many of them just staying in the EPL is success where for us been involved in European competition and a guarantee of been involved in domestic honours in front of the best supporters in world football. I do believe that the right director of football can make us an easy sell in order to further there careers.
We also have to sustain a level of stability in regards not every player has to be looked upon as having a sell on value as there are many players available who making a move to celtic would be there biggest career move and these players need to be identified better within our scouting network again overseen by director of football.
We are blessed to still have much great potential young players available for which can be integrated into the 1st team set up and with far better coaching and opportunities given will always keep the conveyer belt moving in potential players sales, we already have possibilitiey 50m plus on frimps, Turnbull and Soro as of current.
We can't ignore the conveyer belt of young talent as this is such a lifeline to the club when you can't compete with the money on offer down south.
I still believe PL has not fought for the right of us having a 2nd team available playing at championship level as they are more than good enough to hold there own. I do believe it may be a role Scott brown could fill as any bullying some of these hammer throwers want to dish out would they be as brave with less cameras around and a tunnel to see how brave the bully was?
Are we entitled to have a second team available in Scotland? Of course we are as we have produced more players with celtic connections than any other and will always remain so for the foreseeable future and give a much needed financial aid to lower clubs, and better development opportunities for our younger players and with only a gate of maybe 5 to 10k would pay for itself with a potential profit.
I am disappointed in PL for not looking into this venture and persuing it at all as it seems a no brainer to me.
Although I am glad the foundations of the club are still in place just now, and will give credit to PL and lenny in doing so, I also believe that the pair of them are not capable of building on the foundations that are in place.
So TET these are only my own personal opinions but before you bombard we with untold questions about why you don't think that they are possible and maybe your own opinions on solutions would be more welcome than that of conspiracy around secret tax havens and accounts for which many of us have no interest in whatever.
Sorry for such a long post as far to many questions asked without a chance to debate
no interest in whatever

thats the crux

its just better players you want

but the obstacles in the path are of no interest

just get it done

how?

just change the board and fix it?

how?

just fix it?

but money is the problem

no interest in money just want it fixed

Well avoiding the money side of it, unless of course its to highlight revenues only is part of the problem

in fact it seems to be the default position of ordinary fans
 

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