................................Oh for fuck sake. I’ve never said it was their fault and I take issue with you assertion I did. The fault is not with any of the young men who are at our club, I have said repeatedly, check my posts, that’s it’s Rogers, and his dismal record in % terms.
The facts are the facts though, wether you want to accept them though, there are at least 12 players who do absolutely sweet fuck all for their wages, so save all the emotional, playing to the gallery Shite about them. I know it’s not their fault.
It’s the attitude of the of the club, bringing in young guys hoping they are good. Well , it hasn’t worked. There are wage thief’s at the club, but it’s not their fault and as working men good fucking luck to them.
I don’t blame one of them, what I do take exception to is how many there are. Too fucking many, so save the the emotional bollocks please. I know it’s not their fault. That doesn’t mean it’s not somebody’s fault, over £100k a week goes out the door for fuck all.
If you think that’s ok, then have a word with yourself and stop trying to paint yourself as a defender of a group im not attacking, do you think i came up with that term? It’s Rogers and the board for buying them. Dismal judgement. Costly dismal judgement by Rogers and the board. Not the young guys we bought. I think if you read my posts you will see I’m quite clear about the utter ballsup of Rogers signings. 20 and 6 get a game regularly, unintentional, bought through abysmal judgement, but not their fault. We cannot afford £100k a week for no return. That’s the deal, and it needs to change.
If you want to have a go at me l, as you monotonously do, pick better stuff. They are fucking wage thief’s but it’s not their fault. I never said it was. It’s Rogers fault, and I have said that more than once.
Have you? Or do you think everything’s fucking dandy having double figures of the pool doing Fuck all? And will continue to do Fuck all.
Save me the emotional defence ffs of something I wasn’t attacking. And while your at it take a day off from trying to have a go. Your as subtle as a rhino horn up the arse.
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Perhaps it may be a good idea if you chill out somewhat. You can't be angry 24/7 surely?
You're coming across to me as all indignant, spitting venom and snarly.
Let me Level with you....It reminds me of the faces and actions of Huns players when they score a goal....all snarly, angry and full of venom....in comparison to showing a happy, joyful disposition at what should be a happy occasion.
And for what it's worth calling Celtic players wage thief's is a slur on them.....without you, me, or anyone else knowing what is going on. So why say it?
They may not be up to the standard we would all like to see....but classing them the way you do is a bit much.
By all means have a go at the policy behind accruing players....but if you do...why don't you try to come up with an alternative plan that is feasible and then we can all debate it. Sound fair?
Remembering constructive criticism is welcome....verbose continual negativity is boring and totally counter productive.
It's not easy being a Celtic player...the demands and expectations are great..."the jersey doesn't shrink to fit" as Big Jock would say..some will make it...many won't for a variety of reasons....whatever the reasons they don't deserve to be classed as thief's.....do they?...unless of course they can clearly be seen to be working their ticket......which I am sure is not the case with the vast majority of those who don't feature regularly.....don't you think?
So, perhaps it might be a good idea if you have a good think about a few things and cut your cloth to suit. That would be good.
But what if you have a habit for Nuns?
........................You like a nun SP, maan thats wrong on so many levels. Stick to french maids lol
Every club, including all the big English and European clubs, have players on their books whose move to the club hadn’t worked out for either club or player for one reason or another. Celtic are no better or worse than anyone else in this regard.
I wouldn't dispute that, but I think to be fair that these markets have been in that field for decades.I heard a some statistics on the latest Celtic Underground podcast that made me question that complacency.
Teams like Ajax, PSV, Feeyenord, Anderlecht, Porto and Benfica (ie teams we should probably see as our European rivals) all make around 100% profit on transfer dealings. We make 28%.
None of these teams have a turnover anywhere near ours, apparently. Celtic are massive in terms of ticket sales and merchandising (and those clubs don't get the mega money from TV either).
Despite the fact that many/most of these teams attract "bigger" players than us, our wage budget is around double what any of those teams pay.
These three statistics suggest we should spend bigger but more wisely, then sell higher; we also need to pay higher wages but to far, far fewer players. Our squad is too large because we've bought too many projects and journeymen.
The final damning statistic is that most of the teams listed above have far higher Uefa coefficients than us. They're doing better than us.
Couldn't agree more, John. It's not the ideal scenario, but we're limited in other options.We sometimes fall into the trap in my opinion of thinking Celtic are unique in the transfer market Every club, including all the big English and European clubs, have players on their books whose move to the club hadn’t worked out for either club or player for one reason or another. Celtic are no better or worse than anyone else in this regard. And to think we are flush with money in terms of today’s transfer market is ludicrous Even if the reported £20million for Denver was true and even it were all just sitting there waiting to be spent and even if it were all spent on one central defender we would get at best a good competent player with no guarantee he would fit in and be excellent for Celtic. In the real world, of course, any money for transfers has to cover several purchases so we are driven back on the present strategy of spotting developing talent and skilful use of loan system Can’t see an alternative tbh
The thing that surprises me more than anything is that this is nothing new, Celtic have been operating this business model for years, we racked up a fair amount of debt under MON, since the we've witnessed our horrible neighbours go under, there's no way this didn't set off major alarm bells in the celtic boardroom, read a comment recently that we are a development club now, but this is not a new thing, it's been like this for nearly a 20 years, I still find it hard to believe that we spent 9m on French Eddie, unless we qualify every 2 out of 3 champions league play off ties, the mood during these tranfer windows is going to drive some fans over the edge.Couldn't agree more, John. It's not the ideal scenario, but we're limited in other options.
Chasing the dream is never a recipe for success, B. Old minty and his legacy of liquidation is all the lesson we should ever need on that subject.The thing that surprises me more than anything is that this is nothing new, Celtic have been operating this business model for years, we racked up a fair amount of debt under MON, since the we've witnessed our horrible neighbours go under, there's no way this didn't set off major alarm bells in the celtic boardroom, read a comment recently that we are a development club now, but this is not a new thing, it's been like this for nearly a 20 years, I still find it hard to believe that we spent 9m on French Eddie, unless we qualify every 2 out of 3 champions league play off ties, the mood during these tranfer windows is going to drive some fans over the edge.
Never having to fill you fans heads with shite and knowing and that what you are telling them is shite. Chris Graham former board member of Kings board only sacked for tweeting a racist comment or would still be on the board.Chasing the dream is never a recipe for success, B. Old minty and his legacy of liquidation is all the lesson we should ever need on that subject.
I'd even argue that the reported figure for Eddy is a bit of misdirection. I'm sure that if he hits his targets, then that will be the ballpark that we're playing in, but if he does hit these targets then he will have doubled his value as a salable asset.
Pragmatism might not be sexy, but it sure makes a whole lot of sense in the current financial minefield that is football at the moment.
Another fine example of reality gymnastics from this plonker BoabNever having to fill you fans heads with shite and knowing and that what you are telling them is shite. Chris Graham former board member of Kings board only sacked for tweeting a racist comment or would still be on the boardView attachment 1015.
The trouble as I see it is that it is very difficult to buy experienced players who would both improve what we have and at the same time be affordable If they are good solid professionals they come with considerable price tags If they don’t then there is a reason for that and they are best avoided And it is not just Celtic who face this problem Similar teams across Europe do struggle to land good solid players for the same reason
So £4/5m say couldn't secure the signing of a better CB than Boyata/Hendry likewise a better RB than Lustig/Gamboa? Also two of the finest players I've ever seen pull on the hoops, Larsson and Moravcik, didn't come with 'considerable price tags' both combined cost less than £1m and were relative unknowns. Were they best avoided?
I'm not trying to dismiss what you're saying John I recognise it's a difficult market but there are viable affordable targets out there who, if we deviated from our policy once in a while, could come in and make a massive difference and give us a solid base to build on. Combine that with all these young up and coming players we're bringing in and you could create something more formidable and sustainable.
HH John.