Don't let them take your mind
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TET
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HAhahaha are you ina special club TT
You have a whole bunch of ready made nonsense posters.
WHat law of nature are you refering to?
Does it have a name this law?
IS it anti gravity law of nature that defies the law of Physics?
All water will fall to the centre of gravity.
If you have a mass of any matter, gas, liquid or solid it has a centre of gravity. If the mass of matter is large enough the centre of gravity would be the exact middle of the matter and all the forces of the laws of Physics (which is the law of nature the last time i checked) would pull towards that point.
Hence liquids flow to the least point of resistance creating rivers lakes and seas.
Now if the aerth was flat the north pole on your map would be the centre and all the waters would flow towards the north pole.
But it doesnt.
The thing in your head telling you about laws of nature that defy physics is your ego or perhaps its a devilish entity directing your mind but it is a liar. So get yourself to your local priest tell him you are in need of redemption and convert or confess your sins before you find out how hot it actaully is down at the centre of the earth.
Ill leave you a brilliant cartoon from the NASA chaps who dont do the laws of nature. But just for laughs look at thier hocus pocus tricks on the fake space station and their trick photography.
Notice how the water actually follows the laws of physics in zero gravity becoming its own centre of gravity and bends just like the laws of nature says it should.
Amazing
But you stick to the fiddler man with the cowboy hat. He really is part of the truth movement. Honest.
You have a whole bunch of ready made nonsense posters.
WHat law of nature are you refering to?
Does it have a name this law?
IS it anti gravity law of nature that defies the law of Physics?
All water will fall to the centre of gravity.
If you have a mass of any matter, gas, liquid or solid it has a centre of gravity. If the mass of matter is large enough the centre of gravity would be the exact middle of the matter and all the forces of the laws of Physics (which is the law of nature the last time i checked) would pull towards that point.
Hence liquids flow to the least point of resistance creating rivers lakes and seas.
Now if the aerth was flat the north pole on your map would be the centre and all the waters would flow towards the north pole.
But it doesnt.
The thing in your head telling you about laws of nature that defy physics is your ego or perhaps its a devilish entity directing your mind but it is a liar. So get yourself to your local priest tell him you are in need of redemption and convert or confess your sins before you find out how hot it actaully is down at the centre of the earth.
Ill leave you a brilliant cartoon from the NASA chaps who dont do the laws of nature. But just for laughs look at thier hocus pocus tricks on the fake space station and their trick photography.
Notice how the water actually follows the laws of physics in zero gravity becoming its own centre of gravity and bends just like the laws of nature says it should.
Amazing
But you stick to the fiddler man with the cowboy hat. He really is part of the truth movement. Honest.
TET
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Now if you took that nasa expiremnet and blow that water bubble up to the size of the earth then it will look like the water is flat if you pick any point with aboat and human looking as far as the eye can see.
Cant quite work out why you persist with nonsense and then call it natural hahahaha.
Its anything but scientific
Thai Tim
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You ask me to notice how the water actually follows the laws of physics in zero gravity but we don't exist in zero gravity. Isn't the natural physics of water to remain level and flat? Isn't 70% of the earths surface composed of water? If you agree 70% of earth is composed of water, and the natural physics of water is always to remain level and flat, how can the earth be anything other than a level flat plane? Please answer this is a genuine question.
TET
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WTF tt
your thread is dont let them take your mind. But they have.
The earth is a massive lump of matter faoting in space (zero gravity)
A cup of water has a container but the centre of the gravity is the centre of the lump of matter that we call earth.
So the water flows towards the centre of gravity of this masive planet flaoting in zro gravity being dragged by the gravitaional pull of all the other massive lumps of matter flaoting around in zero gravity (space)
BAck to cup of water.
its pulled toward the centre of gravity of earth. It cannot get past the container it is in because because the sides of the container the cup are above the water level. So the water cant flow ay further.
But turn the cup over and the water falss towards the centre of gravity of earth whcih on a sphere is straight down.
Now if it was not a spehere the gravitional pull of the earth would not be straight down necesarrily it woudl depend on the mass and shape of the earth . lets say earth was massive metal plate of iron. it would still be floating aroundin space because that what the universe is empty space with bits of matter flaoting around in it like palnets stars moons comets.
So say earth was same mass as just nowbut was pure iron bar rather than mostly water ball. Then the centre of gravity of that iron bar would be differentto a spehere. on the edges of the bar where its ragged the pull of the gravity would be slanty. so you would find it very odd experience trying to go round the edges of the bar.
And if your poured water on the bar it would cling to some strange places rather than flow around like it does on amasive ball.
You dont trust the physics teachers who have helped create all technology but you trust fiddle player who cant do scales or understand that subjective tiny humans cant quite grasp the massive size of the earth and therefore apply subjective laws in place of macrocosmic laws of physics and the forces of nature on massive scales.
Go read high school physics then do a degree to get to the bottom of the objective realities of the 4 forces of basic nature that leading phsysics experts are messing about with as we currently speak.
Its lack of trust that made you a little mental TT and gOd sknows there are some untrustworthy people but go study physics properly rather than lsitening to coyboy fiddler
He wants your mind
Thai Tim
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Thank you for taking the time to reply and also your advice. I appreciate it TET. So you are telling me there is this thing called gravity in the centre of the earth which is a globe. Do you know how big this gravity is and what does it consist of (what are its properties)? Does it act like a giant magnet? Would you agree the earths oceans are 1,500,000,000,000,000,000 tons? If you agree with this weight give or take a few billion tons, are you telling me this magnetic force is able to hold all these trillions of tons of water into the shape of a perfect ball without spilling a drop? Hmmm? That must be some force! If this invisible force is true doesn't it makes you wonder why the fish don't get sucked to the bottom of the ocean?
TET
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I enjoy talking to you TT
I dont have any will to deceive you.
Thats doesnt mean you should take my word on anything either. Keep searching for the answers. And read some of the basic books on physics then build up to higher undertsanding of what these really intelligent people in that field have theorised then applied and eventually decided are so accurate they have become laws.
Newtons laws of physics
Laws of waves whether they are light waves or liquid waves
The laws of microcosic particles often called quantum mechanics
The laws of macrocosmic universe involving massive scales
The really deep theory of relativity
The matrix theories of dimensions that mathematics say exist in the unverse but we cannot sense with our limited brains.
Dark matter
Then if you master all that you may like to go beyond physics which is called meta physics (meta physics means beyond physics) the study of being, theology, spirit realm. beyond the phyiscal laws.
Right now the physics experts are trying to unify the macrocosmic laws with the microcosmic laws. The small scale doesnt seem to have the same laws as the really masive scale. So they want to unify quantum mechanics with nuclear physics in the vast expnses of space theory.
Thats why they are excited by the cern machine in switzerland coz it replicates experiments at speed of light with tiny particles and they get to study the forces that happen when they smash electrons against electrons.
Some people say they are mad. Because it could create a black hole and suck all the matter on earth into a point smaller than the tip of a pin.
A giant force that far surpasses our gravity where light cannot even get of the pin point.
Anyway maybe that bit too deep considering your struggling to undertsand the water problem and its appearnce to be flat as far as eyes can see.
But if you took a shrunk a human being to scale size of earth v human being with that nasa experiemnt we can see the water is ballfrom the scale we just saw. But that miniture person shrunk down and placed on tiny little boat on that nasa ball of water would think he was on aflat vast ocean as well.
TET
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The old classical education system is no longer being effectively taught in schools.
The old system was very clever
It takes a human being and gives them critical thinking skills that our modern world doesnt seem to be interested anymore. Perhaps that is on purpose with elite people running our world.
The old trivium system of first teir eduction
1 Grammar how to communicate properly in a written language
2 Rhetoric how to communicate properly in spoken language with audience
3 Dialectics How to argue properly in the language where you learn to take two different arguments and clash them together to get better undertanding of the objeective truth.
Then the Quadrivium of second tier eduction
1 Arithmetic numbers
2 Geometry numbers in space
3 Music numbers in time
4 Astronomy numbers in space and time simultaneously
Now obviously
in modern world 1 and 2 would be maths since we now have more than geometry like trigonomtry and calculus
and 4 would now include all science subjects like chemistry physics and biology
And third tier eduction would be mastering one of these 7 basic topics but with that underpinned edcution to get by in any subject.
The old classics teachers claim and with good reason that if you master the 7 basic edcutions of the classic eduction then you will have the critical thinking skills and the basic human skills to deal with lifes problems in virtuous manner.
But modern life is all about base instincts and vice.
The apllied science of devolving disfunctional mankind
The old system was very clever
It takes a human being and gives them critical thinking skills that our modern world doesnt seem to be interested anymore. Perhaps that is on purpose with elite people running our world.
The old trivium system of first teir eduction
1 Grammar how to communicate properly in a written language
2 Rhetoric how to communicate properly in spoken language with audience
3 Dialectics How to argue properly in the language where you learn to take two different arguments and clash them together to get better undertanding of the objeective truth.
Then the Quadrivium of second tier eduction
1 Arithmetic numbers
2 Geometry numbers in space
3 Music numbers in time
4 Astronomy numbers in space and time simultaneously
Now obviously
in modern world 1 and 2 would be maths since we now have more than geometry like trigonomtry and calculus
and 4 would now include all science subjects like chemistry physics and biology
And third tier eduction would be mastering one of these 7 basic topics but with that underpinned edcution to get by in any subject.
The old classics teachers claim and with good reason that if you master the 7 basic edcutions of the classic eduction then you will have the critical thinking skills and the basic human skills to deal with lifes problems in virtuous manner.
But modern life is all about base instincts and vice.
The apllied science of devolving disfunctional mankind
Thai Tim
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Thanks TET I enjoy discussing this with you too. You suggest I read a high school physics book and then do a degree. That's highly unlikely at my age and I'm probably too thick! Also all these mathematical theories and laws of relativity, I just can't get my head around it all. I like to stick to practical natural science. We are told the earths a ball but no one can show us a curve. You make fun of bendy water but no one has ever seen water bend in a natural environment. When I believed we lived on a globe I never questioned all these NASA pictures of earth but when I looked into it I found out there is not one picture of earth that isn't photo shopped or CGI. So trying to get my head around this invisible energy they call gravity that has a magnetic force so strong it hold trillions of tons of water into the shape of a perfect spinning ball is quite a stretch. This gravity force seems selective too. It can hold trillions of tons of water in a shape of a ball but allows butterflies to float around unaffected? But you suggest if I read mathematical theories conjured up by freemason scientists it will all make sense? Sorry not for me!
TET
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I think its more likely that freemasons want you distrusting education so they can use you to rock the boat, so to speak.
You dont need to go to university to learn these topics from basics.
its not that difficult to teach yourself with the internet available but its the sources of the information you need to get the good healthy stuff.
Now if you met a guy with fiddle and cowboy hat who wanted to play the 3 cups and pea game for cash. Then i bet you would sense he was a con man.
The eyes can be deceived by the blokes who clal themsleves the magicians.
the laws of phsyics wouldnt be too hard to research.
Getting grip on the forces of nature is quite fun.
Now taking from the general then making assumptions about the particular is called deduction and its a bit like playing with the dude with pea and 3 cups. He can bamboozle you if you arent on the ball.
But taking from the particular and jumping to conclusions about the general is also fraught with dangers. Can leading to very very false conlusions based on your induction.
These flat earthers are being deceived by the masonic trouble makers who take the particular case of water in this small scale environment then induce their reason to falsly assume the general theory is water on small scale is smae as massive scale in the vacuum of space time.
Masonic plan is to turn everything upside down so that they create chaos and become masters of it.
water in acup is not same as billions of tons floating around a vacuum in space held together by its own molecular forces on huge scale.
Gravity on earth is a gentle force that the human arms and legs can easily nagigate or even butterfly wings. Since the forces of our muscles and even the little butterfly wings are far greater in presnt momnet. But in vast space time gravity will wear down the forces of moment and in time will pull that butterfly into its centre.
Just like your arms are pure space with electrons flying around protons and neutrons but the combination of our boady matter makes it feel solid and the muscles can naviagte through gravity.
But on a much denser massive mass of matter we would instantly be crushed by the shear mass of the force of grvaity on that different planet.
Another sheer conicndence that points to a creator with a plan . A moon that is millions miles away from a massive satr relatively called our sun but coincidence they are identical size relative to human sight on earth.
That alone is one hell of a conundrum for atheism to hold water.
Perfect order of the heavens out of randomness.
Even evolution theory cant explain that one.
But im heading offline now.
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I think when people or anything for that matter start fkn with your head you gotsta put them or it on the tata channel.
Tata.
Tata.
Thai Tim
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This question is for TET. You have explained this "theoretical" energy we call gravity is so powerful it can hold trillions of tons of water into the shape of a spinning ball. I think you got to have a lot of faith to believe that, but it gets worse. We were all shown in Physics class that gas can't exist next to a vacuum. Yet our pressurized atmosphere on earth exists without a barrier next to the infinite vacuum of space. Once again gravity is used as an explanation of why our atmosphere isn't eaten up by the vacuum of space. Here we have a Flat Earther debating this very problem with a person who has chemistry degree. Why is the guy with the degree sounding so dumb? The Flat Earther guy seems to know science better than the guy with the degree. I sincerely hope you can clarify where the Flat Earther is going wrong?
TET
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Im not an expert in the field mate. There are many many strange things in extistence that will bamboozle people.
The atmosphere of the earth sphere is topic ofr experts.
You know for ecrtain that gravity exists. Everything falls to the ground stright down.
Im not really interested to listen to any flat earth debates because just like the 3 cups and the pea, conmen, they rely on slight of hand and bamboozle techniques.
TT if you feel these people are interesting then by all means listen to their jibberish and false foundation theories built on sand.
Even if the earth was a cube or a flat plane or triangle, these same hard to undertsnad things would remain.
Im not an expert in biochemistry or physics or biology or meta-physics. My opinion is not authoratative on any topic. The difference is I see the logic and reasoning of the experts in science and theology and my opinion is based on their multifaceted and thus objective clarity.
The flat earth people take an obscure anomoly with false foundations and peculiar biased extremely subjective perspective then demand the objective view is false unless it complies with thier false foundation their warped perspective and must comply with their non scientific false conclusions.
lets take a stupid example but hopefully one that gets the message.
Celtic park have 60k seats
each seat has a particular subjective view of the match.
The reality of the match is independent of the particular view of each seat.
A goal may happen but some people ins seat may have been distracted from game and miss the goal. Now even if the entire stadium was dsitraacted and the ball flew into net for a valid goal and ref saw it and gave goal then its a goal.
The chances of the every person watching game missing it is unlikely.
Lets say now that everybody was glued to game and saw the goal. Each 60k seat has a particular subjective perspective and some may seen different aspects of the play with better clarity. Who actually scored the goal did it deflect etc etc. 60k subective opinions give a much more objective opinion of what actually happened. but what actually happened is the absolute truth whether it agrees with every single subjective opinion.
Flat earthers are a bit like fans with a weird view of the objective truth so its subject to thier interpretation from thier obscure perspective.
But no matter how many different perspective of the same thing you offer them they always go back to that weird perspective that plays with thier mind and they insist that unless you can show them the truth from that weird particular position then they refuse to belive the truth.
In fact they claim that unless their subjective view is accepted as the truth and the objective truth form every other angle is dismissed then there isa conspiracy aginst their view.
No no no
They are so trapped on a weird mind warped view that they actaully think everybody else is trying to bamboozle them.
Which to me is a pathological egotistical anomaly that is hgetting worse as trust in everything else breaks down.
The world is ona non trust trajectory and a self serving ego mission. the teamwork ethic is dwindling and the hedonistic self pleasure self congratulate mindet is on the rise.
Your videos are abit like listening to Tony Blair explaining why he is correct to kill people. Its narcisistic viewpoint that doesnt take note of valid inputs or valid foundations and thus can only come up with false conclusions which is not scientific or even natural science or tangible.
Its an intangible unreasoned ludicrous form of madness.
Subtle but pervasive.
Deceptive and full of massive error.
But still some people trust deceptive people rather than reasoned robost analysis from multiple angles to get athe best objective version of truth available.
There are many scientists who are not worthy of the title.
There are many deceivers with ego massive that can run rings round so called experts because the expert doesnt have the tools to answer thiose particular weird subjective obscurities.
Thai Tim
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Real Science is Flat Earth. People have realized that water always finds it's level and since the earth's surface is 70% oceans it can't be a spinning globe. Water doesn't bend to the shape of a ball. People have realized everything NASA does is faked. Its all cartoon photoshop of CGI, green screens and video fakery. People have realized our pressurized atmosphere on earth can not exist without a barrier next to the infinite vacuum of space.
The video that TET refuses to look at but takes time in his lengthy post to dismiss, shows that's it's impossible for our atmosphere to exist next to a vacuum without a barrier. Instead TET says we should have faith in our freemasonic "experts" and he says the Flat Earth theory is jibberish built on sand (so need need to research it), trust the "experts" they know best.
The deceivers are not Flat Earthers, the deceivers are those who make sure our children are taught pseudoscience in school and brainwash people to laugh at anyone who questions the pseudoscience.
We are not living on a spinning ball folks. Thousands of people are using their zoom cameras to show they can clearly see landmarks that should be hidden by the curve if the earth was a ball. Millions of people are awakening. Youtube and Facebook are frantically banning Flat Earth videos, google are suppressing finding Flat Earth websites. They are on the run. They are panicking. We are in an age of an awakening revelation!
There is not one picture of the earth ball that isn't Photoshopped or Computer Graphic Generated (CGI), surely that must raise suspicions with you? If not why not? You trust them? You think we should cow tow to the experts even if the science doesn't add up? You think we should make fun of those who question anything they say? For me that is nothing less than a slave mentality, and I will never be a slave.
No one can answer why landmarks can be seen and photos taken that should be hidden by a curve, they tell us these landmarks are just mirages! The only thing the "experts" can give us to pretend the earth is shaped like a ball is an invisible force they call "gravity", so powerful it holds trillion of tons of the worlds oceans into the shape of a ball, so powerful it can defy the laws of science and stop an infinite vacuum from sucking up the earths atmosphere. TET says we know gravity exists because things drop to the ground. No! Things drop to the ground because its mass is denser than the surrounding air! A Helium balloon floats. Is this all powerful "gravity" selective?
How do the deceivers keep us all in check? They make sure anyone questioning their lies are ridiculed and ostracized. You only need to read this thread to show how well they have achieved that. It's clever, they make sure their slaves keep their fellow slaves in check by ridiculing anyone questioning the authority of their masters! Research Flat Earth with an open mind and find proof that we have been deceived by Satan, space is fake and this world has been created by a divine Creator.
Please join my Facebook group to find out more https://www.facebook.com/groups/2022803064599692/
The video that TET refuses to look at but takes time in his lengthy post to dismiss, shows that's it's impossible for our atmosphere to exist next to a vacuum without a barrier. Instead TET says we should have faith in our freemasonic "experts" and he says the Flat Earth theory is jibberish built on sand (so need need to research it), trust the "experts" they know best.
The deceivers are not Flat Earthers, the deceivers are those who make sure our children are taught pseudoscience in school and brainwash people to laugh at anyone who questions the pseudoscience.
We are not living on a spinning ball folks. Thousands of people are using their zoom cameras to show they can clearly see landmarks that should be hidden by the curve if the earth was a ball. Millions of people are awakening. Youtube and Facebook are frantically banning Flat Earth videos, google are suppressing finding Flat Earth websites. They are on the run. They are panicking. We are in an age of an awakening revelation!
There is not one picture of the earth ball that isn't Photoshopped or Computer Graphic Generated (CGI), surely that must raise suspicions with you? If not why not? You trust them? You think we should cow tow to the experts even if the science doesn't add up? You think we should make fun of those who question anything they say? For me that is nothing less than a slave mentality, and I will never be a slave.
No one can answer why landmarks can be seen and photos taken that should be hidden by a curve, they tell us these landmarks are just mirages! The only thing the "experts" can give us to pretend the earth is shaped like a ball is an invisible force they call "gravity", so powerful it holds trillion of tons of the worlds oceans into the shape of a ball, so powerful it can defy the laws of science and stop an infinite vacuum from sucking up the earths atmosphere. TET says we know gravity exists because things drop to the ground. No! Things drop to the ground because its mass is denser than the surrounding air! A Helium balloon floats. Is this all powerful "gravity" selective?
How do the deceivers keep us all in check? They make sure anyone questioning their lies are ridiculed and ostracized. You only need to read this thread to show how well they have achieved that. It's clever, they make sure their slaves keep their fellow slaves in check by ridiculing anyone questioning the authority of their masters! Research Flat Earth with an open mind and find proof that we have been deceived by Satan, space is fake and this world has been created by a divine Creator.
Please join my Facebook group to find out more https://www.facebook.com/groups/2022803064599692/
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TET
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Did you even read what I wrote.
Totally oblivious to the truth mate.
You are awakened???
Are you new Age awakened?
I gave you a detailed reasoning of objectivity. Which you dont understand, clearly. I have syhown you numerous evidence that you dismiss with Gravity does not exist????
You claim the world is flat with absolutely no science. Lots of psuedo science and subjective skullduggery and refernece to devious lemmings.
You refuse to research basic physics therefore i cant be bothered researching it for you.
You want to follow the Flat earth impossibility paradigm which is not even a theory its a psuedo theory that gets dismissed so easily that you forget the proofs and refer back to some strange idiosyncratic perspective thats totally irrelevnt as your foundation.
Ok lets go deeper.
This awakening you talk about. which force is awakening you?
And is this force selective?
Gravity is easy to go research. rather than take the word of a controlled narative. Go research it yourself without a bloke with cowboy hat and a gas mask andd a fiddle.
Apply some experiments then make a scientific paper then submit it to the world of scientific minds.
Your no well pal.
The devil can mimic humility but he cannot obey.
He will tell you what you want to hear to feel special.
Awakened TT
hahahahahahaha
Away back to sleep before you wake up in hell.
TET
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I used to have ablow away football. the harder you booted it it would defy the laws of physics and swerve in multiple direction.
Therefore gravity is not existent because the world is flat.
Thats your argument for flat earth.
Its not even an coherrent argument.
But your awake hahahahahahahah
You dont evn have control of your emotions TT
You dont know yourself very well.
Must know yourself before you can consider yourself on the first step of the ladder of awareness
Didnt the devil mention that to you when you joined the flat earth movemnet?
Therefore gravity is not existent because the world is flat.
Thats your argument for flat earth.
Its not even an coherrent argument.
But your awake hahahahahahahah
You dont evn have control of your emotions TT
You dont know yourself very well.
Must know yourself before you can consider yourself on the first step of the ladder of awareness
Didnt the devil mention that to you when you joined the flat earth movemnet?
