In the cold light of day

TET said:
Maybe a compromise can be made.

A sit down round a table where any variation of the phrase "But what about..." is not allowed and must be rephrased with positive reasons rather than bUt what about the fact they do this as deflection from self awareness.

Only virtuous reasons can be put forward for behaviour.

If it cant be argued as virtuous or positive it must be stopped without defence.

The things that are considered non virtuous by either side must be investigated properly with researchers from both sides.

Both arguments are put forward, for better understanding of the deep rooted clashes of perception.

That way the thoughts feelings and actions that have created this deep rooted clash of accepted behaviours can lead to better understanding of the cognitive behaviours that are extremely detrimental.

The interaction of thought behaviours and feelings and how they can influence the other aspects of this cognitive triangle.

Then both parties must explain their position is not malicious and then justify for education.


If they agree its malicious then it should be banned.
If they cant argue why its not malicious it should be considered deeper.
If at any point 'but what about this...' defence appears then it should be highlighted as a key area for deeper revelation of behavioural education.
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TET, as usual you give me a lot to think about with your post, Ben may well be a decent bloke, I like reading the views of the vast majority of posters on here, from the rebels to the flat earth man (can't be beat for comedy value by the way)
I'm really shocked at how people fall for propaganda from countries like Britain and America, they have fooled the majority into believing they are free, a perfect example, within the last 72 hours the Belfast Telegraph pulled a story from it's website and twitter feed, it was about a former member of the Glenanne gang who said the British state had urged him and his colleagues to attack a catholic primary school during the Troubles, they knew that the outcome would be retaliation, that was the aim.
The post truth era we now live in is a dangerous and a brilliant tactic used heavily by the Brits to fool the public and keep them off the scent of any scandal, I watch these bastards closely, the patterns are there for all to see if you even pay a wee bit of attention.
The next time Britain mess up on the world stage or is embarrassed politically, within 24 hours a statement along the lines of "MI6 have thwarted 50 terrorist attacks on Britain in the last 6 months"
Every major media outlet in Britain will cover this bullshit for a few days, this is all it takes until the good folk of Britain have another reason to be outraged, (the wrong person voted off x factor, Tommy the tit Robinson arrested, or a young muslim woman wants to return to Britain from Syria.)
I used to put all the blame on this country's faults on the people in control, but the older I get, the more I get angry with Joe public, we let these monsters get away with murder and do or say nothing about it.
The freedom that we are supposed to enjoy comes with a heavy price tag, a mainstream media that is poisoning the masses with propaganda, if the peoples first reaction is to trust what news they are being fed, then we are truly fucked, sadly in this instance Ben seems to have fallen hook line and sinker for it.
 
Spherical Planet said:
Tell that to the citizens of Grenada, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and all the other nations where America has ignored the sovereign rights of the indigenous population.

Perhaps the fight for American independence was before your time, but your country built its tradition on repelling British forces who were better armed and brutal.

They waged war against your pilgrims and waged war against our farmers. They fucking starved women and children and allowed them to die in crippling agony.

Whatever version you have of the IRA is surely the same interpretation as the one that the BBC, ITV and the British propaganda machine would have you believe, as it is certainly not my experience of brave men and women that sacrificed themselves to liberate their country.

It was the fucking British that invented "false flag" operations in the era of empire building and when you own the press, you create a different timeline and history.

It's only in the last 4-years that some of the actual truth is being uncovered in the press and if we don't stand up for the innocent blood that was brutally shed on Irish soil (on both sides of the divide), then believe this.......no one else will!!!

Do you find the racial intolerance and impunity of the KKK tolerable?

If not, then understand this. That is the reality of the orange order in Scotland!

They fucking hate, loathe, despise and fear us. We are their worst nightmare. A plague that must be eradicated in their eyes.

I appreciate that geography may not allow you to fully empathise, but that is our reality even now.

My family gets rounded up in UK conference season and has to sign into police stations on a daily basis, just like the dirty bastard sex offenders on SOPO's and all for the mere reason of being of Irish extraction.

Like your significant black population stripped from their cultural birthplaces, we were/are treated like 3rd and 4th class citizens. Irish not wanted. Irish need not apply. Irish go home.

Like your significant black population stripped from their cultural birthplace, we said: "No Fucking More"!!!

No more back of the fucking bus. No more eating the stale handouts of donations. No more random slashings and beatings in the street by razor gangs.

Like your significant black population stripped from their cultural birthplace. We n*****s got uppity and said even more loudly: "No Fucking More"!!!

You have our Club which you love and I do not doubt that.

But you have our club as a direct consequence of British brutality and depravity.

Never forget it!

Up the RA!!!
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????? and the award for best post goes to.....
 
Johnnybhoy said:
Everyone is saying this sectarian stuff has to stop, and no one seems to know how to stop it. Banning the sectarian walk is the only answer, but we all know that will never happen, why? Because a lot of the people who have the authority to do this are members of the bigoted orange walks themselves.
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Im no sure banning the Orange walk will end anything.

Having a deeper look at the Orange Culturein an open forum to get to the bottom of what Orange Culture means to them and whether its true of built on false foundations might?

But these people have been culturally brainwashed to think that Orange Culture is positive which in my mind I cannot find anything good about it whatsoever.

A culture based on who ate the pies (watp) is the flaw in the system.

Its a supremacist culture, similar to all fascist groups, they genuinely believe things should be rigged in their favour.

But being extremely narcissistic to point of extreme sociopathy is Orange Culture.

Its all about them in their mind.
Same as all Sociopaths
People are jealous of their superiority
Monopoly of violence is their right and since its their right its not criminal
Anybody who tries to oppose their claim to this right is a hater and must be exposed.
Equity and fairness is everything belongs to them, cheating stealing and violence is their right
Real fairness is extreme bias against their rights
Crime is only against them
They cant understand why you don't understand heir rights- which include they have all their rights and you have none.

This is the exact philosophy of Attila the hun

Its also the exact philosophy of USA today
Its also the exact philosophy of The elite of the British Empire and French Empires before
Its also the same philosophy of the Dutch and Dutch colonies and empire before the above
It is also the same philosophy of the Venetians before them.
Its also the same philosophy of the Phoenicians long before them the land of Hiram abif the people who built the temple of solomon.

To my understanding all fly a red white and blue flag. All were masters of the seas at one time and had superior ship technology.

All had same underlying principle that They were special people with special knowledge which made them special people to rule the waves and hence the world. And all other cultures were subservient to their culture.

The culture of Orange. The masonic colour of Ignorance and want, aka wordly desire at any cost.

And wordly desire has always been opposed to the human heart and the balance of spiritual care.

Hence the best way to increase ignorance and want is to cremate care and increase the orange culture.

Funnily enough the spiritual colour of balance in heart and spiritual care in masonic world is green.

Orange will always be opposed to the green.

Orange cannot understand green, Orange is sociopathy, Orange is We are the people, Orange is clandestine but overtly fascist.

And its unable to self reflect just like all sociopaths.


Controversial buts thats my opinion on the matter.

Cremation of care is Ornage Culture its sociopathic fear to make good people do nothing. Its the masonic worlds cremation of care, for worldly ignorance and want.
 
TET said:
Im no sure banning the Orange walk will end anything.

Having a deeper look at the Orange Culturein an open forum to get to the bottom of what Orange Culture means to them and whether its true of built on false foundations might?

But these people have been culturally brainwashed to think that Orange Culture is positive which in my mind I cannot find anything good about it whatsoever.

A culture based on who ate the pies (watp) is the flaw in the system.

Its a supremacist culture, similar to all fascist groups, they genuinely believe things should be rigged in their favour.

But being extremely narcissistic to point of extreme sociopathy is Orange Culture.

Its all about them in their mind.
Same as all Sociopaths
People are jealous of their superiority
Monopoly of violence is their right and since its their right its not criminal
Anybody who tries to oppose their claim to this right is a hater and must be exposed.
Equity and fairness is everything belongs to them, cheating stealing and violence is their right
Real fairness is extreme bias against their rights
Crime is only against them
They cant understand why you don't understand heir rights- which include they have all their rights and you have none.

This is the exact philosophy of Attila the hun

Its also the exact philosophy of USA today
Its also the exact philosophy of The elite of the British Empire and French Empires before
Its also the same philosophy of the Dutch and Dutch colonies and empire before the above
It is also the same philosophy of the Venetians before them.
Its also the same philosophy of the Phoenicians long before them the land of Hiram abif the people who built the temple of solomon.

To my understanding all fly a red white and blue flag. All were masters of the seas at one time and had superior ship technology.

All had same underlying principle that They were special people with special knowledge which made them special people to rule the waves and hence the world. And all other cultures were subservient to their culture.

The culture of Orange. The masonic colour of Ignorance and want, aka wordly desire at any cost.

And wordly desire has always been opposed to the human heart and the balance of spiritual care.

Hence the best way to increase ignorance and want is to cremate care and increase the orange culture.

Funnily enough the spiritual colour of balance in heart and spiritual care in masonic world is green.

Orange will always be opposed to the green.

Orange cannot understand green, Orange is sociopathy, Orange is We are the people, Orange is clandestine but overtly fascist.

And its unable to self reflect just like all sociopaths.


Controversial buts thats my opinion on the matter.
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And a worthy opinion it is too
 
Time itself is the most dangerous enemy of the orange order, their numbers are dwindling, and the finances are in such a mess that the vulture Craig Whyte is hovering above with a shiny pound coin in his beak, this doesn't mean that they will die, but I feel within 50 to 100 years they will be a lot less relevant. The boots on the ground are fewer each year, although one is to much when they are allowed to shamefully disrupt people of faith going about their business at mass, im against banning anything, but this cannot be allowed to go on, if these thugs want to march the Queens Highway then the M8 at rush hour would be my first choice.
 
Benignus said:
Time itself is the most dangerous enemy of the orange order, their numbers are dwindling, and the finances are in such a mess that the vulture Craig Whyte is hovering above with a shiny pound coin in his beak, this doesn't mean that they will die, but I feel within 50 to 100 years they will be a lot less relevant. The boots on the ground are fewer each year, although one is to much when they are allowed to shamefully disrupt people of faith going about their business at mass, im against banning anything, but this cannot be allowed to go on, if these thugs want to march the Queens Highway then the M8 at rush hour would be my first choice.
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Never underestimate the vice of ignorance and want when its fueled by the master of money magick.

Isnt it a litle interesting that King refered to him self as a central bank of sevco.

The lender of last resort. Almost as if he has permission to print money.
 
TET said:
Never underestimate the vice of ignorance and want when its fueled by the master of money magick.

Isnt it a litle interesting that King refered to him self as a central bank of sevco.

The lender of last resort. Almost as if he has permission to print money.
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He gets Mehmet to fake it for him, along with the special-edition "going for 55 court cases" commemorative fake strips
 
Agree with posts about equality in the work place a family member finished school in the Seventies with 5 highers every application he submitted for various jobs was rejected,hence in those days you had to name what school you attended. Companies such as the Electricicty
and Gas board,Architects,Accountancy firms all rejected.

He then joined the police cadets and eventually the force were he served
as a constable for 30 years despite sitting and passing every exam possible .He was always pipped at the post when it came to promotion.
One colleague jokingly mentioned for him to become a mason.
I dread those days returning for the sake of our children and grandchildren.
 
I'm not
Starrynight said:
Agree with posts about equality in the work place a family member finished school in the Seventies with 5 highers every application he submitted for various jobs was rejected,hence in those days you had to name what school you attended. Companies such as the Electricicty
and Gas board,Architects,Accountancy firms all rejected.

He then joined the police cadets and eventually the force were he served
as a constable for 30 years despite sitting and passing every exam possible .He was always pipped at the post when it came to promotion.
One colleague jokingly mentioned for him to become a mason.
I dread those days returning for the sake of our children and grandchildren.
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I'm not entirely sure they ever really went away, SN?

There have been plenty token gestures and the pretence of acceptance, but what progress our population has made has been through sheer force of will and determination.

Ffs, America elected a black President, A Catholic PM would create an apocalypse here (like that would ever happen anyway......unwritten rules as they will)!
 
You are probably correct SP ,although not as blatant.
When my daughter graduated with a FC degree,our GP mentioned
that if she wanted to succeed in her chosen profession she should seek
work in England,that was ten years ago,needless to say she remained
here and is content in her workplace.
Yes it was down to hard graft.?
 
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Starrynight said:
You are probably correct SP ,although not as blatant.
When my daughter graduated with a FC decree our family GP mentioned
that if she wanted to succeed in her chosen profession she should seek
work in England,that was ten years ago,needless to say she remained
here and is content in her workplace.
Yes it was down to hard graft.?
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There has been change and natural talent, determination and intelligence is a pretty potent recipe.

There has been a cultural shift and the fear that has created is what makes our enemies so dangerous.

The sense of entitlement doesn't bring any cast-iron guarantees anymore.

Still a long, long ways to go but change is gonna come
 
Get a bankrupt wee tax dodger to be your voice of libel.

Cmon Dave can you not speak your own words of wisdom?

“For me personally, there is mafia in the SFA, in terms of they are ran by Celtic. The newspapers are exactly the same and that’s obvious. You can see it from a mile away,” Novo told Rangers News.
 
TET said:
Im no sure banning the Orange walk will end anything.

Having a deeper look at the Orange Culturein an open forum to get to the bottom of what Orange Culture means to them and whether its true of built on false foundations might?

But these people have been culturally brainwashed to think that Orange Culture is positive which in my mind I cannot find anything good about it whatsoever.

A culture based on who ate the pies (watp) is the flaw in the system.

Its a supremacist culture, similar to all fascist groups, they genuinely believe things should be rigged in their favour.

But being extremely narcissistic to point of extreme sociopathy is Orange Culture.

Its all about them in their mind.
Same as all Sociopaths
People are jealous of their superiority
Monopoly of violence is their right and since its their right its not criminal
Anybody who tries to oppose their claim to this right is a hater and must be exposed.
Equity and fairness is everything belongs to them, cheating stealing and violence is their right
Real fairness is extreme bias against their rights
Crime is only against them
They cant understand why you don't understand heir rights- which include they have all their rights and you have none.

This is the exact philosophy of Attila the hun

Its also the exact philosophy of USA today
Its also the exact philosophy of The elite of the British Empire and French Empires before
Its also the same philosophy of the Dutch and Dutch colonies and empire before the above
It is also the same philosophy of the Venetians before them.
Its also the same philosophy of the Phoenicians long before them the land of Hiram abif the people who built the temple of solomon.

To my understanding all fly a red white and blue flag. All were masters of the seas at one time and had superior ship technology.

All had same underlying principle that They were special people with special knowledge which made them special people to rule the waves and hence the world. And all other cultures were subservient to their culture.

The culture of Orange. The masonic colour of Ignorance and want, aka wordly desire at any cost.

And wordly desire has always been opposed to the human heart and the balance of spiritual care.

Hence the best way to increase ignorance and want is to cremate care and increase the orange culture.

Funnily enough the spiritual colour of balance in heart and spiritual care in masonic world is green.

Orange will always be opposed to the green.

Orange cannot understand green, Orange is sociopathy, Orange is We are the people, Orange is clandestine but overtly fascist.

And its unable to self reflect just like all sociopaths.


Controversial buts thats my opinion on the matter.

Cremation of care is Ornage Culture its sociopathic fear to make good people do nothing. Its the masonic worlds cremation of care, for worldly ignorance and want.
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Perhaps make it the new chicken run ?

Anythin goes ?

?
 
TET said:
Im no sure banning the Orange walk will end anything.

Having a deeper look at the Orange Culturein an open forum to get to the bottom of what Orange Culture means to them and whether its true of built on false foundations might?

But these people have been culturally brainwashed to think that Orange Culture is positive which in my mind I cannot find anything good about it whatsoever.

A culture based on who ate the pies (watp) is the flaw in the system.

Its a supremacist culture, similar to all fascist groups, they genuinely believe things should be rigged in their favour.

But being extremely narcissistic to point of extreme sociopathy is Orange Culture.

Its all about them in their mind.
Same as all Sociopaths
People are jealous of their superiority
Monopoly of violence is their right and since its their right its not criminal
Anybody who tries to oppose their claim to this right is a hater and must be exposed.
Equity and fairness is everything belongs to them, cheating stealing and violence is their right
Real fairness is extreme bias against their rights
Crime is only against them
They cant understand why you don't understand heir rights- which include they have all their rights and you have none.

This is the exact philosophy of Attila the hun

Its also the exact philosophy of USA today
Its also the exact philosophy of The elite of the British Empire and French Empires before
Its also the same philosophy of the Dutch and Dutch colonies and empire before the above
It is also the same philosophy of the Venetians before them.
Its also the same philosophy of the Phoenicians long before them the land of Hiram abif the people who built the temple of solomon.

To my understanding all fly a red white and blue flag. All were masters of the seas at one time and had superior ship technology.

All had same underlying principle that They were special people with special knowledge which made them special people to rule the waves and hence the world. And all other cultures were subservient to their culture.

The culture of Orange. The masonic colour of Ignorance and want, aka wordly desire at any cost.

And wordly desire has always been opposed to the human heart and the balance of spiritual care.

Hence the best way to increase ignorance and want is to cremate care and increase the orange culture.

Funnily enough the spiritual colour of balance in heart and spiritual care in masonic world is green.

Orange will always be opposed to the green.

Orange cannot understand green, Orange is sociopathy, Orange is We are the people, Orange is clandestine but overtly fascist.

And its unable to self reflect just like all sociopaths.


Controversial buts thats my opinion on the matter.

Cremation of care is Ornage Culture its sociopathic fear to make good people do nothing. Its the masonic worlds cremation of care, for worldly ignorance and want.
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There's as much chance of banning the O/O walks , as there is of me pulling my foreskin, over my head, to keep my ears warm (apologes for the visual)
It's staunchly entrenched in their genes and they perpetuate the hatred, through their offspring
Fuck them, anyone who walks with them and the big white horse they rode in on
As long as it rains on the day, I couldn't give a munkys
HH
 
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