I never said he wasn’t good enough. I said he was totally inconsistent and has returned to that mode. His first five years in and about the team are ones of inconsistency and an appalling final ball. I don’t let emotions come into it. He was infuriatingly one extreme to the other. He has bags of ability, but he hasn’t had a full season playing well throughout it. I just don’t think he has fulfilled his potential, he threatens to but it always fizzles out. As his form since the end of the year proves yet again. His final ball, shooting aren’t good enough most of the time. He mostly can get his pass by the first man and we get lots of corners. But, corners are a total waste of time for us so his play too often ends in an opportunity lost.
When he is on his top game he is great, too far between for my liking though and if he was as good as you say he’d be playing in England. He isn’t. Not one bid of note.
Paddy is a much better player for me. And I bet you an interweb pint Shved will be more effective more often too.
You take things that are not really comparable and try to compare them without any kind of back up other than opinion based on ?
Paddy when he was on a game looked good. But I wouldn't say he was more effective than Forrest, yet.
If Forrest had the skill you desire he would most likely be bought by massive wage budget club, so his lack of consistency may actually mean we hold onto him in our league for all these years.
Roberts as far as I Understand isn't here because Celtic couldn't match his wages and he didn't want to come down wages to play here> No idea if that correct but seems most likely reason, since we have a limited budget for wages.
Massive investment is not going to massively increase our wage budget.
Hence reason we actually have cash in bank. The value added players that we can afford buying price often we can't actually afford their wages.
But still you go on about investing money rather than holding it.
Shved is most likely a very low wage player coming in, most probably wants into big leagues, not here, but they aint taking the risk because he is such unknown quantity in so many ways.
He may well be good signing, but its going to be massive risk.
Im pretty certain that if forrest was available for same price as Shved then nearly evryteam in England would be on it in flash.
Forrest can do damage in CL for sure
He can do damage in front of 60k critics for sure
He may not be Real Madrid class but hey that's why he's at Celtic and not Real Madrid. But for me he is the best Scottish inside forward for years and years.
He may have not have been TV class but I doubt any player gets your vote for long.
Better players than Celtic players usually come with higher wages than our players currently, if they are not at our wage level, its because they have no track record performing at our levels, therefore its gonna be risk to see if they can cut it at our level. I give you jack Hendry, I thought he would have cut it, but seems he bottles it.
Shved is possibly good signing but fact the beloved Rodgers didn't fancy him, and his record with Celtic class purchases had been dire, then that doesn't speak too highly for Shved.
Forrest could get first team football for most premiership sides based on his past
Roberts can't do that?
I seriously doubt Shved will, if the big Ukrainian clubs with mega industrial wealth havent snapped him up for buttons. Maybe he is even high risk in Ukraine?
You obliterate all the factors that really add value and go with gut feelings based on video excerpt on youtube.
Next you'll be saying on FM 2019 game he worth a fortune get him signed?
There is no real balance to any of your observations, they are all gut feelings, he is better, no he is better now, why sign him, play this one. Thats all fine and dandy. its all hypothetical but very little of it has any real roots or foundation, or at least you never get to the basic foundation for your theories other than gut emotions.
It all seems based on guts or emotions,
Hard evidence or statistics don't ever support your claims, you just want better, you want it now, you want investment, you want want want, but there never seems to be a coherent rationale for putting this grand plan into motion, other than pure emotional conjecture.
Its not really the most convincing way to put forward a verdict.
Forget about the future for a second.
Lets do reality and xmas break. Why in your opinion was Shved not brought to replace forrest as first choice new quality winger?
Do you not rate Mikey Johnston?
Do you not rate Oko Flex?
Do you not rate lad from saint Mirren who I assume been loaned out?
You rate forrest but not every game?
Do you rate Sinclair?
Do you rate Hayes?
Do you rate the two loan wingers?
Why is `Shved the missing peice and not one of the ones who dint get loaned out at xmas?