On video celts forum ,apparently the discussion about bringing in referees from out with Scotland ,is to be discussed by the governing bodies,for the coming season ,this was posted earlier today, also apparently,as we know the Celtic the driving force, also seem others are coming on board,hope this is looked at seriously, the current setup is down to the referees own inadequate ability to apply the rules as they should be, no point in squealing about it, you brought this on yourselfs,worth keeping an eye on developments on this one, see how far it goes ,hh
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TET
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https://www.followfollow.com/forum/...-bring-foreign-refs-to-scotland-record.66591/
My sides are splitting. They absolutely know no shame. VAR will make no difference, imo. Having watched the wido Morelos fouls red cardsa over and over they have come to conclusion that he should not have had any red cards.
Yet every single red card should have stood as red if VAR was applied.
The wee runt is a complete wild tantrum animal. Dont think ive ever seen so many fly kicks on people that have never even been analysed due to the extreme bias in MSM for them. Yet they think its MSM against them. They think Radio Rangers is against them. They think Liquidation means your club cant die ffs.
Anyway that link is comedy Gold look into the world of Sociopathy (Hun equals narcistic self trapped to full blwon sociopath. Full attila style. Any huns lurking its got sack all to do with religion its short for sociopathic mindset.)
My sides are splitting. They absolutely know no shame. VAR will make no difference, imo. Having watched the wido Morelos fouls red cardsa over and over they have come to conclusion that he should not have had any red cards.
Yet every single red card should have stood as red if VAR was applied.
The wee runt is a complete wild tantrum animal. Dont think ive ever seen so many fly kicks on people that have never even been analysed due to the extreme bias in MSM for them. Yet they think its MSM against them. They think Radio Rangers is against them. They think Liquidation means your club cant die ffs.
Anyway that link is comedy Gold look into the world of Sociopathy (Hun equals narcistic self trapped to full blwon sociopath. Full attila style. Any huns lurking its got sack all to do with religion its short for sociopathic mindset.)
Digger
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Cat among the pigeons,I too hope it's taken seriously this debate about the standard of refereeing in Scotland has gone past its sell by date,there is plenty of evidence to back up this proposal,the Morelos attacks on players not just at Celtic but around the league a Referee giving six penalties in a game the honest mistakes claimed by the SFA,we could go on for ever with this let's hope it leads to changes in the future
Theverdict1
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If they are going mad just now, just wait until unbiased refs play fair and cut out all their dodgy decisions as well as not trying to cheat us week in week out. It will be fucking hilarious when the Lanarkshire Lodge of Bretheren aren’t there to give them a red hand.
TET
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this one particularly caught my attention. hahahahahaha. Just for the Record Celtic have never been founded along purely religious lines.
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"This goes much further than them just complaining about refs.
Show me another country on earth with a club founded along purely religious lines and then show me the same country with a corrupt ‘compliance’ setup that only employs people from that religious group."
Lanarkshire referee society, a complete ban for Catholics, I dont remember the religion of the compliance officer being named and shamed.
Yet its rigged by Catholics for Celtic in this dudes weird whacky paralell universe.
Murray kills their club but sells it to a asset stripper and a director of the asset strippers new company which he intends to buy the assets of the dead club he purchased reneges on the asset strippers company by setting up similar name company to transfer the assets.
Then one of the directors of dead club comes along to take control of the new company with old clubs assets. having convinced the greiving fans that ist still same club.
What percent of referees in Scotish history have become season ticket holders at ibrox?
And to top it all off the fans of dead club claim everybody tried to kill their club excpet the lying new chairman who is a tax criminal. Everybody but the tax criminal tried to kill Rangers.
But get it round yees
DAve King the hero saved the day and hre to expose the Catholic conspiracy against the mighty sevco. Just in nick of time Dave King saved the club he loved his entire life. And now there back to the top except the refs are now cheating them from points while helping Celtic at every opportunity.
Is it just me or does everybody who pays to watch this newest Glasgow club need to book in with psych for diagnosis
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Spherical Planet
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Just can't quite correlate the fact that we have a professional game being officiated by semi-pros/amateurs.
It's more obvious in Scotland due to the kick-in-the-face bias, but even throughout Europe, it's still not the done thing to have professional referees?
When you consider the huge sums of money sloshing around, you would like to think that there was a pathway for referees to be trained and educated to a professional degree for a competitive salary.
Just don't understand why there is such international diversity among the players, yet the referees all come from The Lanarkshire Triangle?
It's more obvious in Scotland due to the kick-in-the-face bias, but even throughout Europe, it's still not the done thing to have professional referees?
When you consider the huge sums of money sloshing around, you would like to think that there was a pathway for referees to be trained and educated to a professional degree for a competitive salary.
Just don't understand why there is such international diversity among the players, yet the referees all come from The Lanarkshire Triangle?
boab1916
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The SFA do not see their own issues, the technology has exposed the refs to what the SFA have never adressed for years and that is the bias in decisions is so clear now. They shout about trial by TV, they forget that apart from TV fans have technology in their pocket and can capture the moments from 60000 angles. Regardless of the position refs are in with employment status all clubs look for is a level playing field and honesty.
The Beaton and Dallas incidents would never have been accepted elsewhere, there was decisons made in the games that were just so blatant, cameras were not required to see what was happening, everyone in attendance knew what was happening.
For the huns to rant and rave and reverse the roles is merely spitting the dummy out, it is the fans who are more savvy now and the associations will find to their cost the fans can enforce the changes and will enforce the changes. For the huns to suggest Celtic are leading the hunt and to suggest that in doing so is paramount to cheating to influence one outcome, would answer their own paranoias and questions, that what they are witnessing is the revealing and opening of the pandoras box that allowed them to rip off and bend rules to their advantage, they are realising the truth when confronted hurts, the scab is been removed to allow the healing and they do not want to see it taking place, for years they have lived under the festering wound like parasites.
Robertson played the victim card and tthe huns are reacting in the rally call, this is typical and yearly the season book renewal is due soon and the blame game is on, the next faze is the Battle fever and shite like that, they are a spent force King through Robertson took them for mugs again,and again...
The Beaton and Dallas incidents would never have been accepted elsewhere, there was decisons made in the games that were just so blatant, cameras were not required to see what was happening, everyone in attendance knew what was happening.
For the huns to rant and rave and reverse the roles is merely spitting the dummy out, it is the fans who are more savvy now and the associations will find to their cost the fans can enforce the changes and will enforce the changes. For the huns to suggest Celtic are leading the hunt and to suggest that in doing so is paramount to cheating to influence one outcome, would answer their own paranoias and questions, that what they are witnessing is the revealing and opening of the pandoras box that allowed them to rip off and bend rules to their advantage, they are realising the truth when confronted hurts, the scab is been removed to allow the healing and they do not want to see it taking place, for years they have lived under the festering wound like parasites.
Robertson played the victim card and tthe huns are reacting in the rally call, this is typical and yearly the season book renewal is due soon and the blame game is on, the next faze is the Battle fever and shite like that, they are a spent force King through Robertson took them for mugs again,and again...
TET
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Celtic calling for the use of foreign referees to IMPROVE standards .
I look forward to Leeann Dempster and Stewart Robertson backing this move as only recently they were complaining about standards - their complaints about the Compliance Officer and the system she implements all stem from the inconsistencies of refereeing .
Unless , of course , their complaint was just a squirrel to deflect the attention of the gullibillies away from poor on field results ? Surely not !
I look forward to Leeann Dempster and Stewart Robertson backing this move as only recently they were complaining about standards - their complaints about the Compliance Officer and the system she implements all stem from the inconsistencies of refereeing .
Unless , of course , their complaint was just a squirrel to deflect the attention of the gullibillies away from poor on field results ? Surely not !
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kelly
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With BT sport first offering free VAR and then calling out the MIB in nearly every game ,you would have thought (i know stop laughing )that the SFA would have tried to get there house in order
Instead the opposite happened Beaton was the first to give it the fku treatment followed by Dallas ,the others have been subtle with it but are still doing it
All the calls for training refs making them professional and helping to improve the game just won't work ,it's the deep seated bitterness you will never remove and therein lies the problem .
The REFS don't seem to be graded on knowledge of the game
Platini toyed with the idea of moving refs around europe as football was a global game so to were the rules , the idea being just as it is now in european games foreign refs officiate in different countrys
And none are met at the airport by a ranting chic dung
The ones scrreaming the loudest are the ones with the most to lose
And it ain't feckin us
Instead the opposite happened Beaton was the first to give it the fku treatment followed by Dallas ,the others have been subtle with it but are still doing it
All the calls for training refs making them professional and helping to improve the game just won't work ,it's the deep seated bitterness you will never remove and therein lies the problem .
The REFS don't seem to be graded on knowledge of the game
Platini toyed with the idea of moving refs around europe as football was a global game so to were the rules , the idea being just as it is now in european games foreign refs officiate in different countrys
And none are met at the airport by a ranting chic dung
The ones scrreaming the loudest are the ones with the most to lose
And it ain't feckin us
TET
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Those opposed to Celtic's suggestion so far :
Keith Jackass ( quelle surprise ! ) ;
Chris Mcloughlin ( really genuinely surprised ) ;
Alex Mc Keech ( Scotland coach - until something better comes along ) ;
Lanarkshire Refs Assoc . ;
Orange DisOrder ;
Allan Mcgregor ( Shagger to those with an IQ lower than their shoe size ) ;
Brother Beaton's local ;
The Bristol Bar/ Louden Tavern clientele ( someone read the Celtic statement to them with the aid of pictures - slowly and repeated it twice - and they were to a man , including the women , though it was difficult to see any differences -opposed to anything that threatened the natural order of their 17th C mindset ) ;
Stevie G. - he stated that refs , including foreign ones , had been against Rangers ( sic ) for ages , long before he got here , and he can't remember the last time they gave us a penalty .
Keith Jackass ( quelle surprise ! ) ;
Chris Mcloughlin ( really genuinely surprised ) ;
Alex Mc Keech ( Scotland coach - until something better comes along ) ;
Lanarkshire Refs Assoc . ;
Orange DisOrder ;
Allan Mcgregor ( Shagger to those with an IQ lower than their shoe size ) ;
Brother Beaton's local ;
The Bristol Bar/ Louden Tavern clientele ( someone read the Celtic statement to them with the aid of pictures - slowly and repeated it twice - and they were to a man , including the women , though it was difficult to see any differences -opposed to anything that threatened the natural order of their 17th C mindset ) ;
Stevie G. - he stated that refs , including foreign ones , had been against Rangers ( sic ) for ages , long before he got here , and he can't remember the last time they gave us a penalty .
Digger
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The cats certainly stirring up the pigeon,Jackson McLoughlin McLiesh followed by the usual idiots,one of them stating that refs feel under threat of course they do,thier ability to referee matches in a fair and honest has been criticised from all directions,if they want to retain thier refereeing status in Scotland they must first of all must declare which team they support also any organisation that may bring pressure to bear on them whilst refereeing matches,be prepared to give thier reasons for controversial decisions easy is it not
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kelly
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Declaring which team they support is a waste of time do you actually think any of them will tell the truth .
Theyll all be dumbarton , st mirren and morton fans just like the media puppets
Clear the decks reform the whole Ref structure top to bottom and bring in euro refs
The whole Ref structure just like the SFA has held this country back that and the lack of ambition from other teams , just waiting for there euro cheque and then put there fingers in there ears
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kelly
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The face painter doesn't want them either
UlyssesGunt
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Considering that Scotland as a national team continuously struggled to achieve qualification for any international competitions , it has always been my belief , that the corruption which has been allowed and indeed encouraged within our game , to the benefit of one team , (and now their incarnation ) has allowed for this false sense of health within the country , appraised by an equally bought and paid for the press , only to fail embarrassingly and frequently on the international stage.
I’m 100% confident should the game be adjudicated by completely impartial officials , the levels of competency and skill would very soon see a marked improvement resulting very soon in International Qualification.
Also one of our failings in international club football is the “ hammer throwing “ thuggish style that is accepted and at times encouraged within the game .. only to be found wanton on the European stage . To compete here , we need to compete within the realms of their acceptability.
Foreign referees should be welcomed with open arms , and seen as an investment in the future of Scottish Football .
Bring it on !
I’m 100% confident should the game be adjudicated by completely impartial officials , the levels of competency and skill would very soon see a marked improvement resulting very soon in International Qualification.
Also one of our failings in international club football is the “ hammer throwing “ thuggish style that is accepted and at times encouraged within the game .. only to be found wanton on the European stage . To compete here , we need to compete within the realms of their acceptability.
Foreign referees should be welcomed with open arms , and seen as an investment in the future of Scottish Football .
Bring it on !
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UlyssesGunt
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But they must be challenged ...
fergusslayedtheblues
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IMO the real reason the refs in this country are so bad is that they are just not going into games with a clear and fair mind .
These guys have been officiating year on year so presumably they would actually improve (practice makes perfect ) yet they are frequently making baffling and strange calls week in week out .
Watching Madden reffing our game on Sunday the view seems to be he had a good game and got the BIG calls right ,this is a guy that had a perfect view of a straight red and penalty the week before .
For me he saw it and he just decided he was not going to give it ,simply due to his bias .He just could not bring himself to give the penalty and send the sevco keeper off ,I have no doubt in my mind that had it been at the other end that is exactly what he would have done .
There would have been no CO intervention and no one would have questioned his judgement .
Isn't it strange that the sevies are the ones complaining that they are the team who are being referred to the CO after games ,surely they realise that this is only because the ref in their games is turning a blind eye to easy to call incidents in a hope of aiding them in matches
On Sunday IIRC Madden took his time in giving the foul for handball at the killie goal and I am still not convinced that he would have given the penalty at our goal had the ball not went in
IMO even though he knew all eyes would have been on him in that game his thoughts were still on what is best for a certain team
These guys have been officiating year on year so presumably they would actually improve (practice makes perfect ) yet they are frequently making baffling and strange calls week in week out .
Watching Madden reffing our game on Sunday the view seems to be he had a good game and got the BIG calls right ,this is a guy that had a perfect view of a straight red and penalty the week before .
For me he saw it and he just decided he was not going to give it ,simply due to his bias .He just could not bring himself to give the penalty and send the sevco keeper off ,I have no doubt in my mind that had it been at the other end that is exactly what he would have done .
There would have been no CO intervention and no one would have questioned his judgement .
Isn't it strange that the sevies are the ones complaining that they are the team who are being referred to the CO after games ,surely they realise that this is only because the ref in their games is turning a blind eye to easy to call incidents in a hope of aiding them in matches
On Sunday IIRC Madden took his time in giving the foul for handball at the killie goal and I am still not convinced that he would have given the penalty at our goal had the ball not went in
IMO even though he knew all eyes would have been on him in that game his thoughts were still on what is best for a certain team
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