No, it's a tune about the h blocks which mentions the hunger strike, on the you tube link theres 2 choices, one has a picture of Frankie Hughes and the other has a picture of Bobby on an album cover that says the Bobby Sands album. The boy from Tamlaghduff is another belter of a tune, as is Farewell to Bellaghy a tune about Frankies cousin Tom McElwee.
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26+6=1
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That song is called McElwee's farewell.
Are you talking about the Roll of Honour?
26+6=1
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Bik McFarlane - he took over from Bobby Sands as commander of IRA prisoners in Long Kesh.
Feck me big fella the Bobby Sands album is on Spotify where you will find the track and it does say Bik Sings it. Yeah I know who Bik is I wasn't sure till a couple of min ago through Spotify if he sung it or not.
boab1916
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I,ve got that up in my loft, bought it in Paddys Market Saltmarket years ago.When a was a bairn, ma dad bought a new 'radiogram', and this was the second album he bocht...Never had much money. so got a new album every couple of months....So this was never aff the turntable, and I learned every word, still at primary school...…..and I'm a Proddy, ma Grandad was Irish Catholic.
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boab1916
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My father wasn't interested in football. Our Irish neighbor
took my brother aged about 8 yrs old sat him in the corner with a lemonade, had his few pints then they all went to watch the Celtic. When I was 8yr old my brother took me to the same pub sat me in the corner with a lemonade. Had his few pints enjoying the Irish rebel songs as the pub was full of Irish Navies, tough as old boots with hearts of gold to a wee 8 yr old laddie, getting a proper education on the history of the most important thing in Scotland for them Glasgow Celtic. They could forget the hatred and bitterness that the unfriendly local showed them. I loved the atmosphere and as I learned the words I could join in. When my friends were buying Tommy Steel ect records I was buying Kevin Barry one week and another rebel song 2 weeks later when I saved the money. Altho I have been in Oz since 1965 I still have all those 45s. Our family is close to a large Irish family, who had rellies visiting from Cork, they invited me. I asked them why as I didn't know any of their visitors. Ah but Bruce you know all the words of the rebel songs. It is great to feel wanted
took my brother aged about 8 yrs old sat him in the corner with a lemonade, had his few pints then they all went to watch the Celtic. When I was 8yr old my brother took me to the same pub sat me in the corner with a lemonade. Had his few pints enjoying the Irish rebel songs as the pub was full of Irish Navies, tough as old boots with hearts of gold to a wee 8 yr old laddie, getting a proper education on the history of the most important thing in Scotland for them Glasgow Celtic. They could forget the hatred and bitterness that the unfriendly local showed them. I loved the atmosphere and as I learned the words I could join in. When my friends were buying Tommy Steel ect records I was buying Kevin Barry one week and another rebel song 2 weeks later when I saved the money. Altho I have been in Oz since 1965 I still have all those 45s. Our family is close to a large Irish family, who had rellies visiting from Cork, they invited me. I asked them why as I didn't know any of their visitors. Ah but Bruce you know all the words of the rebel songs. It is great to feel wanted
The struggle for Irish unity isn't a Catholic v Prody fight, there are plenty of good Proddies who supported a united Ireland. Michael Collins being one.
As I got older I realized not many issues are Black & White. Example the Catholic church intertwined themselves in Irishness, TBH I don't think it did the Irish any favors. I'm saying this as a ex Catholic now a atheist.
However everybody has their own road to travel.
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Michael Collins wasn't a Protestant but there were many Protestants who fought for Irish freedom including the original Irish Republicans. The Catholic church hierarchy sided with the British throughout history. They, like all religious leaders were and are firmly on the side of those with the most money and guns.
Theverdict1
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The Catholic Church in Ireland, sided with the fascist bastards going to fight for Franco as well. It warms my heart when I read their influence is crumbling. They were a shower of utter cunts for centuries.
TET
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Im not getting into a debate on this topic.
But I will offer you a chance to re-read why Franco came to fight against the soviet war machine in Spain.
First thing the left wing extremists do when they get power is kill anyone who refuses to comply with a certain type of revolt.
Spanish liberal movement went from wanting the right things to masonic style mass murder of anyone who doesn't agree with atheist murderers.
First republic of note was Cromwell
Masonic and it set out to kill catholics.
Then King Billy the Republican came, seems he wasn't so into hating catholics but his whig government of masonic liberals set about making sure catholics became slaves.
Then under the switcheroo- to the royal family of house of Hanover (Hamburg and Danish connection- ever noticed that Hamburg and Denmark, right next door to each other hate Irish and catholics with passion?)
House of Hanover in full swing- the most famous masonic rebellion took place in France. And guess what, that republic decided to change the calendar to a 10 day week (check it out) and the Catholics were first for the chop.
In ireland rebellion was brewing and it was protestant in nature with full swing of masonic front brewing the corridors of discontent. Napoleon promised an army to unseat the Hanoverians and introduce republic in Ireland. Ships couldn't land in storm, the Orange order was created and the wearing of green was banned. History was changed to suit an anti catholic agenda despite it being a protestant republican revolt. Again catholics got the brunt of the blame and terrorised accordingly.
Portuguese and South American revolts were socialist republics and masonic- killed religious and promised poor land and work - except they made them worse off and slaves to state families.
Next big revolt was Soviet Russian republic. All religious were tortured or murdered or sent to Siberia. Funny that. the intolerant left just want a better deal for poor but when they get power they kill priests and kill the poor unless they join the State police.
Then we had extension of Russian revolt with Stalins henchmen controlling Catalonia and guess what as soon as king abdicated and Socialist republic got power they started exterminating priests and nuns. Which created such a furore in ordinary people that they backed Franco who took extreme right wing measures to subdue the soviet forces in Spain. Stalin ran off with Spanish gold bullion and abandoned the project to prepare for the threat posed by hitlers new government to soviet Russia. Spain was left to Franco who was nutcase hired to fight the worse nutcase Stalin and his Soviet death machine.
Second world war came and went and it ended when masonic America bombed the only catholic city in Japan- nagasaki
the Chinese joined soviet in pact and east started tumbling with promise to make poor better off. What happened, priests and nuns were murdered and catholics were persecuted and the poor got poorer and became state owned slaves. As did behind the iron curtain. Poorer not better off. Not more free. More enslaved.
So I find your twisted crap about catholics deserving everything they get is a bit Orange- just a wee bit bitter twisted and full of extreme left handed sinister promise.
Be careful what you wish for.
I find it extraordinary the utter bullshit paraded by supposed Celtic fans with anti catholic invective with twist of truth to deceive the weak minded.
I repeat it not up for debate.
The socialist in Spain were murderers of innocent religious
But I'm sure you will have a whole load of bluster to back up why extreme left is good.
Its not. it lies for fun. It's vitriolic. Its vicious and it never delivers what it promises the poor.
The poor die and the masonic hierarchy introduces new system of aristocracy - them
Then we had fall of China- same result- priest murdered tortured and poor get poorer. Then Indochina- priests killed poor get poorer and state becomes a family thing.
I stand corrected, but you get my point, don't fall into the trap of Catholic V Proddy, It is my fellow Tims from Ireland who pointed this out to me.
Theverdict1
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Every time you go on a religious rant, I see this.
Franco was a murdering bastard. Hitler was a murdering bastard. Pinochette was a murdering bastard. Mousolini too. All had the backing of the Church.
Franco was a murdering bastard. Hitler was a murdering bastard. Pinochette was a murdering bastard. Mousolini too. All had the backing of the Church.
I prefer this view.
The religious war was a handy way for the Brits to describe the conflict, if you look back in colonial history they had all sorts of weird expressions to describe a brutal situation. 'the troubles or in Kenya the emergency. It certainly was an emergency for the poor pregnant Kenya women who in some cases had their children aborted at the end of a colonial bayonet.
Theverdict1
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Just a wee historical fact. Ireland was invaded in the 11th century and for five hundred years England was Catholic. Just saying.
Yeah I get that tv1, but because of a fat King who loved his hole decided fuck the church and Rome, they won't let me Shag, my way through European royalty, England had their first real brexit of any kind
TET
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No they didnt
The church is nought to do with government in secular countries
They are opposed to Communism because it restricts freedom, therefore it might appear they favour the right wing government when the opposition is communist death squads.
Thats a far cry from backing the fascist element
The church was at logger heads with all totalitarian regimes
It approves of virtuous aspects of certain regimes but condemns the vitriolic and vicious elements of same regime.
Only a Thai Tim delusional confirmation biased neanderthal would then conclude Church approved the vicious elements
Communism has no virtuous elements
None.
None.
It appeals to the weak with promises it has no intention of keeping in order to get power and steal from certain rich people, not to give to poor or workers, but to the state appointed guardians.
You have such a slanted bias in your selective agenda driven outburst that you dont even check for real evidence that supports your claim.
Just like TT you besmirch anything with any old propaganda that suits your agenda
Its without Justice or truth
The socialists in Spain were worse murders of innocents than Franco
Franco was extreme right wing headcase
But he had virtuous elements in his policy, he also had really evil streak with vendetta style justice.
But you miss out Stalin in your subjective analysis
The bank robber Stalin the man of Steel, theft and murder was his game. Its at the core of all atheism. No God Im god. Who are you to tell me the law. I make the law and I take what you have by sociopathic intent. If you oppose me you will die.
The right wing head cases of 20th century all sprung up through the Masonic soviet style communism that was spreading like cancer. Promising much and delivering only death.
Without the communist regimes no fascist would ever have got power.
But you miss that bit out.
Church opposed Communism as Demonic and it clearly is if you research it.
Condemns fascism but condemns Communism more.
Your conclusion
it backs fascists
Now go read history properly. And stop doing the orange orders bidding for them. For rather than being fascist the orange order like Cromwell is national Socialism. But it selects the slaves of nation.
National socialism is communism under a different title. Its not international socialism. Its national socialism for one particular culture.
Fascism doesn't make that distinction. It selects race as whole rather than nationality.
The racial part throws them to extreme right.
The international part of communist manifesto gets it thrown to extreme left.
National socialism is both at same time. Racial but communist.
Any extreme is condemned by the church.
All extreme is either massive defect in virtue or massive overdose on selective virtue. Neither is virtue.
too much or too little is sin.
So to just chose selective criteria for your conclusions is not only not objective its nowhere near actual absolute truth, which puts you in the extreme bracket.
But that's where you want to be.
Blame others rather than admit self error.
Selective distorted obscured information is never a fact unless your an extremist.
And since you never condemn Stalin or Communism and promote all his ideals I conclude you need to read more actual facts rather than selected twisted history like a good orangeman.
Notice the switcher?
Orange is national socialism for anglo saxons- has fascist elements but really its selective communism
State is god.
And you promote mostly everything orange order promotes.
You aware of that?
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