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Winter said:
Haven't you noticed how players are playing well into their mid 30s these days especially at the elite club levels?

Players at 35, 36, 37 and not goalkeepers either.
Outfield players .

With talk of Harry Kane 29 possibly on real Madrids radar they instead have signed Joselu 33 from espanyol he has hit his prime in just the last season, for initial €500k up front loan with non obligatory option to buy after 1 season for further €1.5 million.

Seems like Arsene Wengers fitness and dietary regime , has now been embraced by all clubs and players/clubs are benefitting.

Recently man utd paid £60 million for Casemiro 31 ( always a good bet to get carded in a bet builder) .

That's something that would've been unheard of half a decade ago perhaps with exceptions of messi,35 Ronaldo, 38 lewandowski 34 etc, and we saw just how much Larsson peaked at 33.

We ourselves paid around £4.5 million for 28 Yr old Kyogo that would certainly not have happened when PL was CEO.
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A lot of it is to do with player's attitudes and professionalism in looking after their bodies better. Yes, diets have been improved and tailored to meet individual players requirements.

Another contributor is the Change in laws to provide more protection to players (except in Scotland where too many refs are still stuck in the 1690s interpretation of the laws) whereby if you sneeze near an opponent it is a foul and often a booking.

Improvements in medical treatments have helped a lot too. Injuries are diagnosed and treated much quicker so players don't play through the pain barrier so much aggravating injuries (bigger squads help too). No multiple cortisone injections before every single game resulting in crippled middle-aged ex-players. Cruciate ligament injuries no longer finish a career but they can return months later.

But the biggest contribution to longevity of players is the huge advancement in sport science. Players are constantly monitored during every single training session and match. These are examined in real time to determine a players fitness and fatigue levels so they can be subbed off before this negatively impacts them (and makes them more likely to get injured).

Warm-ups and warm downs are more sophisticated these days, and the use of ice baths, etc, help to ensure that these prizes assets are maintained in prime condition.

If a player has the dedication, motivation, physical attributes and has had some luck in their career then there is no reason for players to keep going well into their 30s.
 
Winter said:
Haven't you noticed how players are playing well into their mid 30s these days especially at the elite club levels?

Players at 35, 36, 37 and not goalkeepers either.
Outfield players .

With talk of Harry Kane 29 possibly on real Madrids radar they instead have signed Joselu 33 from espanyol he has hit his prime in just the last season, for initial €500k up front loan with non obligatory option to buy after 1 season for further €1.5 million.

Seems like Arsene Wengers fitness and dietary regime , has now been embraced by all clubs and players/clubs are benefitting.

Recently man utd paid £60 million for Casemiro 31 ( always a good bet to get carded in a bet builder) .

That's something that would've been unheard of half a decade ago perhaps with exceptions of messi,35 Ronaldo, 38 lewandowski 34 etc, and we saw just how much Larsson peaked at 33.

We ourselves paid around £4.5 million for 28 Yr old Kyogo that would certainly not have happened when PL was CEO.
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Yes definitely mate I was just meaning so we could keep him longer and get a sell on fee 😂.....I hate tho when guys come at 35 etc who know they are past it like Roy Keane Freddie lungberg Ian Wright Dion Dublin etc
 
tommybhoy8881 said:
Yes definitely mate I was just meaning so we could keep him longer and get a sell on fee 😂.....I hate tho when guys come at 35 etc who know they are past it like Roy Keane Freddie lungberg Ian Wright Dion Dublin etc
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Aye I got you buddy, was just thinking that even a lubo at the age we got him would sit fine with me.

If a players got the ability age , younger or older shouldn't matter perhaps only in the physical department and it takes time for players to add some needed bulk .

We've seen this with Calmac, Christie , Forrest and others too.
 
Bridie Bhoy said:
A lot of it is to do with player's attitudes and professionalism in looking after their bodies better. Yes, diets have been improved and tailored to meet individual players requirements.

Another contributor is the Change in laws to provide more protection to players (except in Scotland where too many refs are still stuck in the 1690s interpretation of the laws) whereby if you sneeze near an opponent it is a foul and often a booking.

Improvements in medical treatments have helped a lot too. Injuries are diagnosed and treated much quicker so players don't play through the pain barrier so much aggravating injuries (bigger squads help too). No multiple cortisone injections before every single game resulting in crippled middle-aged ex-players. Cruciate ligament injuries no longer finish a career but they can return months later.

But the biggest contribution to longevity of players is the huge advancement in sport science. Players are constantly monitored during every single training session and match. These are examined in real time to determine a players fitness and fatigue levels so they can be subbed off before this negatively impacts them (and makes them more likely to get injured).

Warm-ups and warm downs are more sophisticated these days, and the use of ice baths, etc, help to ensure that these prizes assets are maintained in prime condition.

If a player has the dedication, motivation, physical attributes and has had some luck in their career then there is no reason for players to keep going well into their 30s.
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much of that if not all of it is attributed to Arsene Wengers " extreme" approach to how athletes should eat, sleep, chill, warm up and downs etc like you said.

Mind the uproar when he introduced broccoli to the menu at Highbury and took chips off 😲 eh? No chips? No but have a salad.

Why we doing all these stretches and shit Boss?
So you don't collapse with cramp.

Revolutionised the game here and in Europe on the whole, is it ironic to think that he came from the J-league with those ideas all those years ago?

Especially now we have another J-league manager trying to implement a brand of football that is still alien to many EPL clubs.

Glenn Hoddle also brought some lasting changes.
His sports psychology isn't/wasn't a bad idea it was a good one these players today even many in their 30s are still spoiled kids in the head.

He ruined that with his "handicapped people , those in wheelchairs etc are paying for their sins in a previous life"
- right Glenn of course , sports psychologist but maybe we should get a psychiatrist as well just to be thorough?
 
Winter said:
Haven't you noticed how players are playing well into their mid 30s these days especially at the elite club levels?

Players at 35, 36, 37 and not goalkeepers either.
Outfield players .

With talk of Harry Kane 29 possibly on real Madrids radar they instead have signed Joselu 33 from espanyol he has hit his prime in just the last season, for initial €500k up front loan with non obligatory option to buy after 1 season for further €1.5 million.

Seems like Arsene Wengers fitness and dietary regime , has now been embraced by all clubs and players/clubs are benefitting.

Recently man utd paid £60 million for Casemiro 31 ( always a good bet to get carded in a bet builder) .

That's something that would've been unheard of half a decade ago perhaps with exceptions of messi,35 Ronaldo, 38 lewandowski 34 etc, and we saw just how much Larsson peaked at 33.

We ourselves paid around £4.5 million for 28 Yr old Kyogo that would certainly not have happened when PL was CEO.
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It's simple really. Players aren't going out get drunk every week.
They are now proper athletes.
Correct diets, exercise & recovery as well as sleep.
If you think back to the 80's & 90's players would retire around 32/33. That was because they weren't dedicated to their bodies . Players , as long as they train right,sleep right & eat right should be playing until they are 40 at least
 
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Youngster Ewan Otoo has departed for Dunfermline meanwhile the signing of Odin Thiago Holm is said to be close.
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Another young starlet ( 2 in fact) out , Otoo to dunfermline and now young 16yr old Ronan Ferns , at least we're learning from previous raids upon our academy, Ferns has never gad a contract with us this would've been his first one but Celtic will at least this time get £250,000 for him.

Also Thors Da Odin looking likely to sign for us
 
I wonder, with Ange now gone, our signings from the Asian Market have ended? Such a shame as I believe we could have uncovered a few more gems.
Hopefully, the scouting system that Ange would have helped set up for that part of the world will continue to keep their eyes peeled for some decent players.
 
Makes a change to a player in this early,if what has been said about him is true he is going to be a player,still think we should be looking for a defender and a strong goalkeeper with attackers getting in front of keepers to stop thier movement’s a good keeper and strong keeper is a must hopeing we don’t leave it to late a mistake we have made a few times in the past its no use talking about the one that got away it’s the ones we are after we need to Get
 
From what I can see it appears now that it is the scouting network who present any potential signings to the manager who may or may not have the final say. The new boy Odin being the perfect example.

Obviously there will be one or two heavily influenced by the manager Kyogo etc .
But by and large now Nicolson appears to have ordered all transfer business to be completed early in the window. Its a format that is working.

We are in different markets now and must maintain our healthy balance sheet.
Rodgers may well be allowed maybe two 7- 10 mil players to sign but wages etc needs to be kept under control.

As much as I want that improvement in Europe we need to be careful we don't have an overblown wage bill.
I suspect DD is throwing everything at ensuring its us who are in the new Champions league format next year where the financial reward could easily be £50m +.

Let's hope we can keep our top players and add that extra bit of quality within reason that takes us to the next level.
 
Lubos left peg said:
I wonder, with Ange now gone, our signings from the Asian Market have ended? Such a shame as I believe we could have uncovered a few more gems.
Hopefully, the scouting system that Ange would have helped set up for that part of the world will continue to keep their eyes peeled for some decent players.
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The big worry there is Muscat…..he is doing really well there in the J league…..and being an ex Hun he just might end up at eyepox after Beale gets binned…
 
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