without a doubt will be some game for him to make his debut hopefully he has a great game and the team leave Tynecastle with the 3points
Alloa v Celtic Scottish Cup
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We don't miss broony for the level of football Ange is looking for us to play nowadays imo, but of course he would be missed on days like what Alloa want to serve up.
I'll make the claim that yesterday was payback for what he gave the scum midweek, and worse still its seems deemed as acceptable.
So I still don't see where broony would have been suited to what Ange is looking for from his teams, yet a place would be available if we don't want to move on to a higher standard imo.
The Deadner
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For me it's not about whether anyone is Celtic class (whatever that is) or not. It's the fact that some players, and in this case (again) it's starfelt who you pointed out for making mistakes, when in actual fact, he has been one of our better players in the last two games. There seems to be certain players at celtic who get a free pass, week in week out no matter how bad they play. Calmac has been brutal in the last two games, but nobody has pointed this out, but that's calmac, you can't say that about him. I could go on, but you get my point. And it's not that I have any love for starfelt, he's fair game the same as the rest, but only if he deserves it. I was brought up to always stick up for the underdog and in this case that happens to be the Swedish maldini!
Espiritosanto
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A don’t mean Scott as a player!tho a young Scott brown would fit right in that midfield,,,just keepin the ball moving..
DILLIGAF
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Sounds like you enjoyed a full day TT
HH
DILLIGAF
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But...they don't watch our games...
That's their typical brand of fitba so anything that leaves a leg hanging, is ok, except when it's against them
Alloa manager, Elmer Fudd says "Theltik were under the coth"
Foster...the guy's a nipple
HH
green sprig
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I would love to see Starfelt prove us both wrong Frank,I would have no problem eating half that humble pie.
HH
Frank Owen
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Agreed GS. Can't think why any of us would want the bhoy to fail. In the end it's Ange's shout. I've seen enough to believe he'll make the correct call.
green sprig
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I understand John what you are saying,what is Celtic class nowadays,the only way I could answer that is by saying,,it is the best we can get,, so it would look like I have contradicted myself mate when I said Carl Starfelt was not Celtic class when obviously he is because he is the best we could get.
Who would you play on the left mate thats the $64000 question,I am sure Ange will have been smart enough to have decided on who plays right and who plays left.If you ask me where I think Matt O,Riley will play on Wednesday I will have a better chance of answering you..As regards to Welsh and high balls I dont think he is as good in the air as I would like but that is how I feel about the three of them but if I had to choose only one centre back it is CCV all day long,not be cause he is blessed with skill but because he will go through the wall in front of him just like Bobo did..
If you asked me who I would play on the left if Bobo was still around,I dont think it would matter mate..
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green sprig
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100% correct Deadner in what you said,I apologise to everybody on the Noise for the comment I made about Carl Starfelt,this guy is obviously Celtic class or he would not be at Celtic,I know Starfelt gets singled out at times because I am one of the guilty party but I dont think it is a witch hunt mate
I definitely think it is what people see and this is why they comment on it.
Bottom line Deadner,I get your point mate,I hope the big fella realises he has a champion fighting his corner for him.
HH
I've always claimed in today's modern game that the partnership between keeper and the 2CB has to be somewhat the strongest in terms of winning league titles, and the glory boy's of the strike force will get most of the credits for doing so.
The culture of if you don't conceed you can't lose a game still exists, but nowadays supporters want to win, so scoring goals is a bigger focus.
Yet it becomes far easier to accept a player with scoring goals than the ones involved in them being conceded more so.
So to answer your question GS, I don't see any such competition to starfelt in the left side of a CB partnership at present.
Did think Ange might have taken the risk of changing to a 3 during the break, which would possibly have bought scales and maybe Dane Murray into the reckoning more so in terms of competition for places, but Ange hasn't shown any interest in it so far, and that's OK also as it's his decision in the end and nothing warrants anything to say he is wrong either.
Will he stick with a back 4? I think so now until the end of the season, but who knows next season still.
Will be interesting to see what happens when and if Jules returns, and possibly will give us more options available, but yet to see if they are actually better, cause bare in mind Jules hasn't really played alongside any of the current 3 CB options used this season still.
Frank Owen
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Terrific debate folks. One of the interesting things about it is the fact that it seems to be the only position in the team we are concerned about. Compare that with six months ago ! Progress indeed.
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Tony
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Stick to your guns GS ....if you think Starfelts shite thats your opinion ..no need for apologies .HH
And that progress that has been made Frank has somewhat gone far to unnoticed still.
I no longer have the head in the hands every time a corner is given away or a free kick within our own half now. Don't see attackers running through the gaping holes in the back line unchallenged either.
Not saying we remain perfect but hell of a lot better to where we were a year ago still, and all relatively new so in theory only stand to get better imo.
Frank Owen
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For the most part I agree with you John. Got to say though, I still feel we're vulnerable to crosses into our box, be it from open play or set pieces. Most other things? Night and day from six months ago. AND we're gonna get better.
The Deadner
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Never apologise for your opinion gs. It's unique to you. We all have one. Sometimes people agree with it, sometimes they don't. That's life. If we all agreed all of the time, the world would be a boring place.
And give soprano no heed. He's only stirrin shite!
But would put that down to exploiting the full backs in the system of play we are adapting to still Frank.
The game is so tactical now and any system or players used will leave you open to be exploited, hence where possession is so important as you can't do nothing when you haven't got the ball.
Our full backs can still play to high when we haven't totally killed these teams off, and space is there to split up the CB and allowing more opportunities for a striker on a one on one basis.
In general I don't think we have done to bad and dealt with them situations not to badly still imo, yet room for improvements still.
green sprig
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Callum McGregor undergoes surgery
Callum McGregor is believed to have undergone surgery on his cheekbone following Celtic’s Scottish Cup tie at Alloa Athletic.
videocelts.com
Ange got it right,it was a bad one,
HH
Had that worse thoughts at the time GS, now it's about how long we will be missing our captain from such an injury?Callum McGregor undergoes surgery
Callum McGregor is believed to have undergone surgery on his cheekbone following Celtic’s Scottish Cup tie at Alloa Athletic.
Ange got it right,it was a bad one,
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