Andy settles

Bellshill bhoy said:
The bit I DONT GET, is why she went back after being trafficked/raped another 2 times over a period on months…..strange….
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Do yo understand what ‘GROOMED’ means? Maybe try and look into how at first Maxwell recruited and normalised this abuse and they were promising all sorts of help for their captives careers etc and also paid the girls $200 - $300 dollars for each massage etc.
Once the ‘ABUSE’ takes place you don’t appear to have any empathy of how this young woman/girl feels that it’s her fault and can’t tell anyone and is incapable of escape once this abuse is established and normalised with both Maxwell and Epstein involved in the abuse.
at 16/17 years of age then they are taken to private islands and countries on private planes and there is no escape.
You are well out of order here imo. Victim blaming.
it’s a fact that Prince Andrew has paid up because he is GUILTY.

But it’s easier for some ‘men’ to blame the women for their abuse and that is nothing strange to me.
 
CelticRose said:
Do yo understand what ‘GROOMED’ means? Maybe try and look into how at first Maxwell recruited and normalised this abuse and they were promising all sorts of help for their captives careers etc and also paid the girls $200 - $300 dollars for each massage etc.
Once the ‘ABUSE’ takes place you don’t appear to have any empathy of how this young woman/girl feels that it’s her fault and can’t tell anyone and is incapable of escape once this abuse is established and normalised with both Maxwell and Epstein involved in the abuse.
at 16/17 years of age then they are taken to private islands and countries on private planes and there is no escape.
You are well out of order here imo. Victim blaming.
it’s a fact that Prince Andrew has paid up because he is GUILTY.

But it’s easier for some ‘men’ to blame the women for their abuse and that is nothing strange to me.
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Virginia Giuffre was raped at 7 and ended up on the streets as a troubled child. She then lived for about 6 months with since-convicted sex-trafficker Ron Eppinger who ran a model agency; before returning to live with her father still aged only 14. That her father was a Mar-a-lago employee would make him worth looking at in my opinion as this child was processed along a conveyor belt of evil all the way to Mar-a-lago's spa.
The Virginia Giuffres of this world rarely escape a life of abuse, addiction and anonymity. Those who use them never expect them to.
 
26+6=1 said:
Virginia Giuffre was raped at 7 and ended up on the streets as a troubled child. She then lived for about 6 months with since-convicted sex-trafficker Ron Eppinger who ran a model agency; before returning to live with her father still aged only 14. That her father was a Mar-a-lago employee would make him worth looking at in my opinion as this child was processed along a conveyor belt of evil all the way to Mar-a-lago's spa.
The Virginia Giuffres of this world rarely escape a life of abuse, addiction and anonymity. Those who use them never expect them to.
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Thanks for he extra information 26+6=1 as I had no idea that she had been abused beforehand and that makes it all the more viable for these rich deviants to exploit that further.
Evil is the right term for this abuse and anyone who stands and says it’s the victims fault is just as bad.
These crimes are of the very worst imaginable, the pain and hurt is way beyond our understanding.
I have always believed that children depend and trust on the adults around them and when these adults fail the children it’s not the children’s fault how can it be.
 
CelticRose said:
This is another clip by the woman journalist who investigated Epstein and discovered the sex trafficking ring. But this clip is about his supposedly suicide.

Trafficked means held captive, imprisoned so no choice but they did try to escape and Giuffre eventually did under the auspices of taking up trining to be a masseuse and they had to give her her passport back and that’s how she got away eventually.

there were many women who have suffered as a result of this not just the young women held imprisoned as you will hear on this clip.

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I dont want to be on the other side of this but that is another spurious headline to sell a book by what she says in the first 5 minutes. She stated as fact that he did not comit suicide then says nobody knows??? Me too again or just trying to sell a book of suppositions.
 
Smelltheg-love said:
Perhaps a real human being in the room would have realised that girls in that situation were there for a number of reasons.

a young girl aged 17 going along with it could either have been desperate for money, had mental issues etc. Whatever is speculation. Eg. Been lied to about what they could get out of it. But these cunts preyed on those that were ripe

It’s one thing to groom barely legal teens but perhaps the girls that were in this position needed a break in life or someone to give them a wee bit of help and guidance rather than pass them around.

some of these girls were likely similar to girls we’ve all encountered in life, they haven’t had anyone to look up to or shit parents or perhaps self esteem issues. All they ever seek is attention and want people to like them. They do things just to fit in.

Let’s remember, she was a 17 year old girl, any real person knows that the right thing to do is not to take advantage of them. The gang of men were all highly intelligent people.
They were privelidged people who preyed on young girls without any thought for being decent.

I’m remember a party years ago in my pals house. I was given a present by a pal that was near impossible to get in UK. A powerful drug let’s say but not coke.
I was getting it ready for consumption by anyone who felt the need because you had to separate it, it was that strong. Feck me my intention was putting it into pinky fingernail lines it was that strong.

I went to toilet and came back and this lassie about 19 had snorted the fucking lot. Now I was up for all sorts in my prime but you couldn’t have paid me enough to do that. While all and sundry viewed her as a pain in the arse, I looked after her while she was fucking flying. 2 hours later I was going but didn’t want to leave her with my pals, although they did.
she didn’t want to go home to her mums. I’m getting a taxi and she’s stuck to me. So I took her to my house. Plenty of water and gets into bed and she’s all over me.
Now an ugly bastard like me is looking at a lass that’s fucking stunning, gorgeous, 18 years younger. Did I think about taking advantage of the situation ?
Every fecking second for hours.
But, I was fortunately brought up by good people.
I sat with her while she was awake for hours practically trying to force herself on me.
Stayed up all night fighting my primal thoughts, got her to sleep eventually. Next day made her dinner, she thanked me.

my point, just because you can doesn’t mean you should.

the facts are that these people preyed on naive girls and they thought they were above decency.

these girls were a victim of the life they had and that life led them to these choices. That prick Andrew used and abused his position then, still does. Denys meeting her despite the picture. If the pic was a fake, he had the money to prove scientifically it wasn’t.
He couldn’t yet still sat on tv and denied it. Looked the world in the eye through a camera and told lies because he thought he was untouchable. Then Pays millions to prevent it going to court.

the cunt should be banished from existence.
He could have been a hero by helping these girls, he could have called Epstein out, he didn’t, he was in the thick of it.
He even refused to say he regretted his friendship with them even when it was known they were scum.

and I’m sorry and drunk, but anyone who really wants to put up any sort of case for the defence, well fuck me you’ve not got a clue about decency…..

even with the best defence lawyers money could buy, the cunt of a man didn’t defend

maybe having 2 daughters has me feeling like this, maybe being drunk has, or maybe I just find it fucking horrific that we live in a world where there’s a thought that this lassie is lucky cos she got a pay off cis she allowed it to happen more than once
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Thank you for that post highlighting human decency and the lack thereof firmly at the guilty of these rich and extremely wealthy predators.

I was 15 and coming up the road home from the bus stop about 9pm and this guy came past with his Willy hanging out and I ran as fast as I could and shouted my dad and three brothers who all ran out but he was away by that time. Thankfully for him because my dad would have murdered that cunt. I was scared for ages after that to go out myself.
 
CelticRose said:
Thank you for that post highlighting human decency and the lack thereof firmly at the guilty of these rich and extremely wealthy predators.

I was 15 and coming up the road home from the bus stop about 9pm and this guy came past with his Willy hanging out and I ran as fast as I could and shouted my dad and three brothers who all ran out but he was away by that time. Thankfully for him because my dad would have murdered that cunt. I was scared for ages after that to go out myself.
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Life when I grew up was a million miles from the world we live in today rose and I’ve went with it. I’m truth it’s took having 2 kids to open my eyes to the life they’ll live in.
My old bhoy talks of his times
He lived in a shipbuilding town, people had money if they managed to keep their dads out the bookies on a payday.
Kids would be sent to the pubs at 6/7 on a Friday night to fetch dad cos the wife dare not.
My old man speaks of times when he’d get sent upstairs for a loan of sugar/milk/bread cos the upstairs neighbour had started on his wife. ‘He’s come to the door as nice as could be and give my dad shilling’
Shit like that was ignored then
In fact if you ever watch any Peter mcdougall movies, just a boys game etc they were based on the town and life my old bhoy grew up in. Changed days
Nowadays the world is as open as it can be.
Women are more than housewives. Kids are empowered by protection and a freedom to chart their own path without fear.
In fact I had a conversation with my mum today. My nephew has a girlfriend from Ireland who he’s never met in real life but they’ve been close since lockdown started.
Theyre coming over to see him this week.
‘So this emerald is a girl, but wants to be a boy’ ‘ok mum’
she pipes up ‘so if he’s going with a girl that is apparently a ‘boy’, what does that make him then, I’m confused ? 😂
‘Happy mum, he’s happy 😂
 
Smelltheg-love said:
Life when I grew up was a million miles from the world we live in today rose and I’ve went with it. I’m truth it’s took having 2 kids to open my eyes to the life they’ll live in.
My old bhoy talks of his times
He lived in a shipbuilding town, people had money if they managed to keep their dads out the bookies on a payday.
Kids would be sent to the pubs at 6/7 on a Friday night to fetch dad cos the wife dare not.
My old man speaks of times when he’d get sent upstairs for a loan of sugar/milk/bread cos the upstairs neighbour had started on his wife. ‘He’s come to the door as nice as could be and give my dad shilling’
Shit like that was ignored then
In fact if you ever watch any Peter mcdougall movies, just a boys game etc they were based on the town and life my old bhoy grew up in. Changed days
Nowadays the world is as open as it can be.
Women are more than housewives. Kids are empowered by protection and a freedom to chart their own path without fear.
In fact I had a conversation with my mum today. My nephew has a girlfriend from Ireland who he’s never met in real life but they’ve been close since lockdown started.
Theyre coming over to see him this week.
‘So this emerald is a girl, but wants to be a boy’ ‘ok mum’
she pipes up ‘so if he’s going with a girl that is apparently a ‘boy’, what does that make him then, I’m confused ? 😂
‘Happy mum, he’s happy 😂
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My folks were in 'Just a Boy's Game'
Big Peter McDougall used to drink in the same club as my Dad
Great guy, well known around the town and same down to earth guy as always
Got a few stories of growing up in a different era,
If you haven't seen it yet, watch 'A Sense of Freedom' about Glasgow gangster Jimmy Boyle, there's a cracking bit shot outside the Glasgow Central Station, with Fulton McKay, mentions Greenock in it, funny as fuck
Big Peter sent me a copy of the film on VHS, after he found out I was trying to get a copy and my Dad had passed away, top man
There's also a scene, where Jimmy Boyle is let out of prison with a police escort, to attend his Mothers funeral
I have a personal story, about that very thing
Life is full of twists and turns eh
There but for the grace of God, so to speak
Your environment is such a powerful building block, and I am thankful I was born in the toon, and in the era I grew up in
Anyone doing anything to anyone else, within the local Community, word got around quickly, those responsible, were dealt with, with no need for police intervention
Just how it was, in those days, different times indeed
In most cases, it instilled a tremendous sense of right and wrong in people
Hope everyone stays safe and has a great week
HH
YNWA
 
Read that staff at Buckingham Palace, are singing a wee nursery rhyme 😁
"Oh the Grand Old Duke of York
He had twelve million quid
He gave it to someone he never met
For something he never did"
A catchy wee tune
🤣🤣
 
Winter said:
Haha brilliant 😂😂😂
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With your permission D I must pinch that and spread it about haha quality and as a wise man once said "why bother making clever jokes when plagiarism of another wise mans funnier jokes is much easier " the former wise man was a bit of a fibber and made up stuff as he went along 😛
 
Winter said:
With your permission D I must pinch that and spread it about haha quality and as a wise man once said "why bother making clever jokes when plagiarism of another wise mans funnier jokes is much easier " the former wise man was a bit of a fibber and made up stuff as he went along 😛
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I cannot take credit for it, as it's out there on the interweb, but share away my friend
HH
 
That's me signing off for the night so it's your turn for the back shift tonight D 😂 I'm away to meet my better half and have a quiet wee celebration of my latest journey around the sun ( must try my best not to mention the Celtic noise too much ) she gets jealous of my Celtic, my Celtic forum , my celtic pals , my Celtic family, my Celtic community and she gets jealous of Celtic cos its Celtic, Celtic that's the team for me 🎷🎶🥁
Thank you all for the kind greetings .
A better bunch of people I've never met that I could only hope to meet
Slange var, slainte, cheers and thank you all god bless you all HH 🙂🙏
 
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