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John nó

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Good luck b4l. I hope they finally find out the problem and get you sorted out. A sore back affects everything - working, walking, sitting, sleeping, etc - and grinds you down. So fingers crossed for you as that has been far too long to suffer that. HH.
Hopefully all goes well B4L, use to think back trouble was more about people acting the bollocks, learnt its no joke when my own went years ago and still will never be right either
 

John nó

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Worked beside a guy years ago in a steel fabrication yard he bent down to pick up a piece of metal bar and felt his back go , poor guy has been a paraplegic for more than 40 years
Very similar myself marky, only just getting up off the ground after a break upon a building site and bang, just came out of nowhere.
Nothing can be done as crushed discs from wear and tear of the work, still managed to struggle on with the problem for years after, even if you didn't know what condition you would wake up in each day or weather that you had to spend the day moving around like you had shit yourself 😜
 

DILLIGAF

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Worked beside a guy years ago in a steel fabrication yard he bent down to pick up a piece of metal bar and felt his back go , poor guy has been a paraplegic for more than 40 years
Got crushed between two 4000 Lb containers, when I was 23
Was rushed by ambulance to hospital, doctor took one look at me, gave me a shot of cortisone in the spine and said "You've pulled a muscle, off two weeks and you should be fine to go back to work, you're young, fit and strong, so here's a prescription for muscle relaxers, to help you sleep"
No examination, no x-rays, just 'back to work asap'
Found out later that he was on the WCB (Compo's) payroll, so would get injured workers back to work and the WCB wouldn't have to pay them
I was in agony for two weeks, so went to my own GP, who took one look at me and said "Hospital now...x rays and scans...was admitted for 3 weeks, transferred to another hospital, in traction for 6 weeks, not fun by the way, and was off 8 months with rehab, physion
I had a slipped disc, which was bulging and pressing on the Sciatic nerve...
Pulled muscle my arse...I was in agony, and to this day, still have back trouble
I was lucky to survive but the quack almost cost me the use of my legs all those years ago
I got a scan years later which showed some problems, and was supposed to get them fixed, but I had gotten used to a wee bit of a twinge now and then, and I didn't bother...silly Bhoy
Now, in the 'twilight' of my youth ;-) I just get on with things...like getting out of bed...getting up off the couch, all done without the aid of any protective equipment or without the aid of a stunt double
You know your own body, don't always trust the judgement of so called health professionals, many of them are dealing with their own egos
I'm still waiting to hear from another neurologist as the last one didn't tell me about the issues I have going on...found out through another doctor I'd seen, who asked me what the prognosis of the brain issue I have (No comments necessary) which showed up a year ago on an MRI was
I told him I knew nothing and assumed as the neuro hadn't let me know after a couple of weeks, everything was fine
Anyway, too much information, but we play the cards we are dealt with
Don't worry, be happy

Boaby McFerrin
 

bhoy4life

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Very similar myself marky, only just getting up off the ground after a break upon a building site and bang, just came out of nowhere.
Nothing can be done as crushed discs from wear and tear of the work, still managed to struggle on with the problem for years after, even if you didn't know what condition you would wake up in each day or weather that you had to spend the day moving around like you had shit yourself 😜
Know the feeling 😆
 

bhoy4life

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Got crushed between two 4000 Lb containers, when I was 23
Was rushed by ambulance to hospital, doctor took one look at me, gave me a shot of cortisone in the spine and said "You've pulled a muscle, off two weeks and you should be fine to go back to work, you're young, fit and strong, so here's a prescription for muscle relaxers, to help you sleep"
No examination, no x-rays, just 'back to work asap'
Found out later that he was on the WCB (Compo's) payroll, so would get injured workers back to work and the WCB wouldn't have to pay them
I was in agony for two weeks, so went to my own GP, who took one look at me and said "Hospital now...x rays and scans...was admitted for 3 weeks, transferred to another hospital, in traction for 6 weeks, not fun by the way, and was off 8 months with rehab, physion
I had a slipped disc, which was bulging and pressing on the Sciatic nerve...
Pulled muscle my arse...I was in agony, and to this day, still have back trouble
I was lucky to survive but the quack almost cost me the use of my legs all those years ago
I got a scan years later which showed some problems, and was supposed to get them fixed, but I had gotten used to a wee bit of a twinge now and then, and I didn't bother...silly Bhoy
Now, in the 'twilight' of my youth ;-) I just get on with things...like getting out of bed...getting up off the couch, all done without the aid of any protective equipment or without the aid of a stunt double
You know your own body, don't always trust the judgement of so called health professionals, many of them are dealing with their own egos
I'm still waiting to hear from another neurologist as the last one didn't tell me about the issues I have going on...found out through another doctor I'd seen, who asked me what the prognosis of the brain issue I have (No comments necessary) which showed up a year ago on an MRI was
I told him I knew nothing and assumed as the neuro hadn't let me know after a couple of weeks, everything was fine
Anyway, too much information, but we play the cards we are dealt with
Don't worry, be happy

Boaby McFerrin
Hellish m8, mine was as innocuous as they come, work in emergency response, we were movin a bariatric woman on her bed usin the correct techniques and a just felt a wee twinge, bothered me for 10 mins tops then nothing for a fortnight and BOOM…has just steadily got more debilitating. The problem is the pain becomes untrackable and u start to feel it in aw sorts of places and thats whats worryin me noo, its pain I wudny associate with back issues but I suppose its all related….a bit like Newco supporters 😂
 

Winter

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Got crushed between two 4000 Lb containers, when I was 23
Was rushed by ambulance to hospital, doctor took one look at me, gave me a shot of cortisone in the spine and said "You've pulled a muscle, off two weeks and you should be fine to go back to work, you're young, fit and strong, so here's a prescription for muscle relaxers, to help you sleep"
No examination, no x-rays, just 'back to work asap'
Found out later that he was on the WCB (Compo's) payroll, so would get injured workers back to work and the WCB wouldn't have to pay them
I was in agony for two weeks, so went to my own GP, who took one look at me and said "Hospital now...x rays and scans...was admitted for 3 weeks, transferred to another hospital, in traction for 6 weeks, not fun by the way, and was off 8 months with rehab, physion
I had a slipped disc, which was bulging and pressing on the Sciatic nerve...
Pulled muscle my arse...I was in agony, and to this day, still have back trouble
I was lucky to survive but the quack almost cost me the use of my legs all those years ago
I got a scan years later which showed some problems, and was supposed to get them fixed, but I had gotten used to a wee bit of a twinge now and then, and I didn't bother...silly Bhoy
Now, in the 'twilight' of my youth ;-) I just get on with things...like getting out of bed...getting up off the couch, all done without the aid of any protective equipment or without the aid of a stunt double
You know your own body, don't always trust the judgement of so called health professionals, many of them are dealing with their own egos
I'm still waiting to hear from another neurologist as the last one didn't tell me about the issues I have going on...found out through another doctor I'd seen, who asked me what the prognosis of the brain issue I have (No comments necessary) which showed up a year ago on an MRI was
I told him I knew nothing and assumed as the neuro hadn't let me know after a couple of weeks, everything was fine
Anyway, too much information, but we play the cards we are dealt with
Don't worry, be happy

Boaby McFerrin
Sick 🤬🤬 that is Dilligaf, really is , putting someone's life at more than just risk for extra bucks.
That's despicable how a person can live by day and sleep at night with that knoeledge In their head that someone could be injured for life or die for your benefit. Makes me sick.😡
 

Winter

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Hellish m8, mine was as innocuous as they come, work in emergency response, we were movin a bariatric woman on her bed usin the correct techniques and a just felt a wee twinge, bothered me for 10 mins tops then nothing for a fortnight and BOOM…has just steadily got more debilitating. The problem is the pain becomes untrackable and u start to feel it in aw sorts of places and thats whats worryin me noo, its pain I wudny associate with back issues but I suppose its all related….a bit like Newco supporters 😂
This is nothing to what awful experiences you bhoys are talking about but worth mentioning I think because it's something I was completely unaware of.
Had been at the doctor's on and off over months pre-pandemic with sore lower and upper back/neck pains and front thigh above the knees.
The pains were manifesting into extremely tense knots in my shoulders and neck , and cos I've often suffered from really bad migraines time to time usually when air pressure changes, different weather conditions sets me off sometimes. Found out that years ealier.
Sent to the physio who was shocked at the tension knots in my upper back and neck told me that back/neck muscle tension was leading to a tension headache which in turn set off my migraine sensitivity so I'd get an attack, could last half an hour or on /off for a week or more of migraines.
Real migraine attacks, anyone who suffers, knows they are utterly debilitating, can hardly see cos of the pain.
1 day of on/off attacks can leave you done for rest of the week sometimes.
Before I left physio says come with me for a moment, led me into a comfy staff room I think with nice sofa and chairs, coffee table asked me to sit down and relax a minute, cup of tea.
After about 5 minutes chatting he asked, is this how you sit at home on the couch if you're watching telly or talking , just sitting ?
Aye !
This is what's causing the back muscle tension and leading to migraines when theres no weather /pressure changes.
I was shocked but hed pointed out that my posture was so bad that I sit right on the very end of the couch , not sitting with my back supported but hunching forwards so my arms and elbows dig into just above the knees.
Couldnt believe that just sitting with a poor posture, very poor in my case was causing so much damage to my back, neck and head.
Was putting unnecessary pressure on my spine any time I was sitting.
That's the reason I brought it up, such a simple thing but I'm used to having a bad sitting posture so I have to have a cushion behind my back it seems to remind me to sit back and not forward.
Physio said hes seen poor posture manifest in many forms of different pains and majority of people just dont know they're responsible for their pain.
 
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DILLIGAF

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This is nothing to what awful experiences you bhoys are talking about but worth mentioning I think because it's something I was completely unaware of.
Had been at the doctor's on and off over months pre-pandemic with sore lower and upper back/neck pains and front thigh above the knees.
The pains were manifesting into extremely tense knots in my shoulders and neck , and cos I've often suffered from really bad migraines time to time usually when air pressure changes, different weather conditions sets me off sometimes. Found out that years ago.
Sent to the physio who was shocked at the tension knots in my upper back and neck told me that back/neck muscle tension was leading to a tension headache which in turn set off my migraine sensitivity so I'd get an attack, could last half an hour or on /off for a week or more of migraines.
Real migraine attacks, anyone who suffers, knows they are utterly debilitating, can hardly see cos of the pain.
1 day of on/off attacks can leave you done for rest of the week sometimes.
Before I left physio says come with me for a moment, led me into a comfy staff room I think with nice sofa and chairs, coffee table asked me to sit down and relax a minute.
After about 5 minutes chatting he asked, is this how you sit at home on the couch if you're watching telly or talking , just sitting ?
Aye !
This is what's causing the back muscle tension and leading to migraines when theres no weather /pressure changes.
I was shocked but hed pointed out that my posture was so bad that I sit right on the very end of the couch , not sitting with my back supported but hunching forwards so my arms and elbows dig into just above the knees.
Couldnt believe that just sitting with a poor posture, very poor in my case was causing so much damage to my back, neck and head.
That's the reason I brought it up, such a simple thing but I'm used to having a bad sitting posture so I have a cushion behind my back it seems to remind me to sit back and not forward.
Physio said hes seen poor posture manifest in many forms of different pains and majority of people just dont know they're responsible for their pain.
Good points Winter
We've all got 'something' to deal with
Migraines tend to run in my family, I've had some beauties, along with visual migraines, with the wavy lines, usually in the left eye, sometimes go blind in one eye, scary at times, and usually a sign of an oncoming migraine
Touch wood, I haven't had one for years, but they can be debilitating and the best thing you can do, is lie down in a dark room with no noise or distractions around you
Hope everyone manages to get help for whatever ails them and stay safe moving forward
HH
 

Winter

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Good points Winter
We've all got 'something' to deal with
Migraines tend to run in my family, I've had some beauties, along with visual migraines, with the wavy lines, usually in the left eye, sometimes go blind in one eye, scary at times, and usually a sign of an oncoming migraine
Touch wood, I haven't had one for years, but they can be debilitating and the best thing you can do, is lie down in a dark room with no noise or distractions around you
Hope everyone manages to get help for whatever ails them and stay safe moving forward
HH
Sounds daft D, but I've often found it embarrassing.
I've been out in the pub playing pool and suddenly hear or feel a click in the nasal area and suddenly the pressures changed and it's like I'm being thudded with a baseball bat, actually theres been times I've wished it was a baseball bat thinking I'd cope with that better because I know what's causing it.
If I'm with pals who are unaware ( in times past), I'm thinking , they must be thinking whits he oan about ?
Going home cos of a headache? Geis piece!
Thankfully they dont understand why the waters pouring from the eye sockets and hopefully never will.
And yes home to a dark room and silence.
Even worse can be that you do manage to drop off for a doze but the migraine attacks in my sleep and wakes me up , I'll sometimes have to get right up out of bed be standing /walking to change the pressure and blood flow.
Something the doctor told me years ago to do, change positions of sitting and laying down.
The using of both hands to apply pressure to the parts where the shooting pain is particularly sharp, doc called it symptomatic healing.
Unreal how little things can lead to such a thing so horrible that easy to throw up with the nausea.
 

Winter

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I get a far better treatment for it nowadays, so I'm a lot better prepared than I once was.
You get to know the signs of an impending attack and its 1 tablet in the morning or if I feel I sense it and 1 in the evening and amazingly they really work well, take them them wherever I go and even the knowledge of a treatment that works is on my person is a tonic in itself, no panic.
In my mid 30s the doctors weren't very clued up, had me squeezing a liquid up my nose to clear my sinus , it did do that but still left with thumping migraine, had beta blockers, migraleve yellow and pink ( those bloody tablets cost about £15 x 24 tablets ) a few years ago, be extortionate now , they did work but took forever to work.
Nowadays it works with the age old saying,
Prevention is better than the cure, though I think that saying might be about alcohol and hangovers Idk haha
 
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Fisiani

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May I ask Fis, is this connected to the book you'd written ?
You wrote a book on this matter aye?
I am a specialised generalist. I can use hypnosis and other techniques to treat A - Anxiety, B - Bulimia C - Chronic pain, D- Depression, E -Eating disorders and virtually all the other letters of the alphabet apart from Q. I do treat zoophobia!



That is typical of life in New Zealand. We are only 5,100,000 people in NZ and we need to be expert in many aspects of our work. There are not enough people in New Zealand to only practice in a narrow clinical niche.



I first attended a weekend hypnosis workshop and learned about the medical use of hypnosis in 1991. I was instantly hooked on hypnosis and was using it in my medical practice the very next day. By 1993 I was first elected President of the New Zealand Society of Hypnosis and in 1996 I opened the first ever medical hypnosis practice in New Zealand.



25 years later it is still the only medical hypnosis practice in NZ.



I’ve previously written two self help books, Relax: Say Goodbye to Anxiety and Panic and Quit: Say Goodbye to Smoking both published in New Zealand by Huia Publishers.

In November 2019 I had written the first version of this book and after giving a lecture in Heidelberg I was asked to have my early manuscript translated into German despite it never having been published in English before and so it was published as ‘Wie man angst in nur vier therapiesitsungen heilt’ by Carl-Auer Verlag and it had a glowing preface written by Bernhard Trenkle, the President of the International Society of Hypnosis. Apparently it is selling well. I do not speak or understand German however and cannot read the book. This is the first English language version of my ideas and the first to include the important lie detector chapter thus changing the title from ‘just four therapy sessions’ to ‘just five’.



I have developed a unique style of hypnosis that combines some of the best elements from Classical Hypnosis, Ericksonian Hypnosis, Storytelling and Acting that has been simply dubbed by my peers as ………



The McCarthy Methods.



My methods certainly work for me and for the more than 15,000 people I have treated for anxiety or panic as of 2021.
 

JamSam67

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I get a far better treatment for it nowadays, so I'm a lot better prepared than I once was.
You get to know the signs of an impending attack and its 1 tablet in the morning or if I feel I sense it and 1 in the evening and amazingly they really work well, take them them wherever I go and even the knowledge of a treatment that works is on my person is a tonic in itself, no panic.
In my mid 30s the doctors weren't very clued up, had me squeezing a liquid up my nose to clear my sinus , it did do that but still left with thumping migraine, had beta blockers, migraleve yellow and pink ( those bloody tablets cost about £15 x 24 tablets ) a few years ago, be extortionate now , they did work but took forever to work.
Nowadays it works with the age old saying,
Prevention is better than the cure, though I think that saying might be about alcohol and hangovers Idk haha
Feel your pain winter I use Sumatriptan
They work for me.
Stay strong

HH 😱
 

DILLIGAF

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Had a coffee yesterday with an old friend
He's dealing with Parkinsons
When I ordered the coffees, he said "Get mine in a 'to go' cup with a lid, otherwise it'll go all over the place
He was standing outside a store, shaking, when the security guard came over and asked him, if he was cold
"No son, I've got Parkinsons"
He said the boy looked sheepish and was embarrassed, but he reassured him "It's awrite son, thanks for your concern"
Brilliant guy, even for a Rangers fan, known him for forty years and he's got a great sense of humour
Anyway, thank your lucky stars, if you have your health
Getting older is ok, but the side effects are not great ;-)
Stay safe, stay healthy, stay well
YNWA
 

TTQtKK⚠️

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Had a coffee yesterday with an old friend
He's dealing with Parkinsons
When I ordered the coffees, he said "Get mine in a 'to go' cup with a lid, otherwise it'll go all over the place
He was standing outside a store, shaking, when the security guard came over and asked him, if he was cold
"No son, I've got Parkinsons"
He said the boy looked sheepish and was embarrassed, but he reassured him "It's awrite son, thanks for your concern"
Brilliant guy, even for a Rangers fan, known him for forty years and he's got a great sense of humour
Anyway, thank your lucky stars, if you have your health
Getting older is ok, but the side effects are not great ;-)
Stay safe, stay healthy, stay well
YNWA
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